Tudor Vs. Omega

[iwant1]

Can you experts chime in on why Tudor over Omega? Apart from the fact that I prefer the slightly bigger dial size, I really cant afford a Rolex at the moment.


Thanks.

[roadcarver]

Why not save up to get the Rolex that you want? If you can't wait, Omega is offering good models with improved movements lately.

[wineguy]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

Why not save up to get the Rolex that you want? If you can't wait, Omega is offering good models with improved movements lately.

This

[Canadianjam2]

I was in the same dilemma as yourself and decided to go with Tudor. I chose the Heritage Chrono simply because of the vintage feel and i wanted to "dip my toes" in the Rolex pool, eventually adding some Rolex brand pieces to my collection in the future.

I also felt that Tudor has been an up and coming brand since 2009 onwards as separating themselves from their big brother/sister Rolex by carving out their own niche in the market.

[iwant1]

I got my wife a DJ 31 mm a couple of weeks ago, and I just cant wait to get one myself. I really like the Heritage Black Bay, but am not sure its worth the price...

[gwalker]

Well what models are you comparing? Many of the newer omegas are close to 2x as much as most of the Tudors. If you get an Omega with an ETA it would be closer to the Tudors but the in house 8500 and 9300 are much more expensive.

[Canadianjam2]

I can pick one up here (BB) in Canada on the leather strap for $3800 CAD taxes in, well worth the price.

[slcbbrown]

Originally Posted by Canadianjam2

I can pick one up here (BB) in Canada on the leather strap for $3800 CAD taxes in, well worth the price.

For $3,800, you can get any of an assortment of Rolex. Why buy Omega or Tusor? A Rolex can easily last 50+ years, so a 15 year old Sub, for example would be a great choice.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by slcbbrown

For $3,800, you can get any of an assortment of Rolex. Why buy Omega or Tusor? A Rolex can easily last 50+ years, so a 15 year old Sub, for example would be a great choice.

So can many Omega and Tudor last 50 years like most mechanical watches if they have correct service.

[Canadianjam2]

Originally Posted by padi56

So can many Omega and Tudor last 50 years like most mechanical watches if they have correct service.

Well played...

[dsio]

Originally Posted by slcbbrown

For $3,800, you can get any of an assortment of Rolex. Why buy Omega or Tusor? A Rolex can easily last 50+ years, so a 15 year old Sub, for example would be a great choice.

In fairness, my sub was nearly a total write-off due to extreme movement damage after 30 years without servicing. As for why buy an Omega, well I had my Rolex Submariner for about 2 years, and I figured I was due for an upgrade.

[swiss ghost]

Originally Posted by slcbbrown

For $3,800, you can get any of an assortment of Rolex. Why buy Omega or Tusor? A Rolex can easily last 50+ years, so a 15 year old Sub, for example would be a great choice.

and what may that assortment be

please explain

$3800 wont get you much

[77T]

They're both quality brands so no reason to say one over the other in a blanket statement. The Tudor line has some great models like Omega. Pick the one that has the functions you want and a dial you like.

[TheChimp]

What about the Pelagos? Anyone have an msrp on it?

[swiss ghost]

Originally Posted by TheChimp

What about the Pelagos? Anyone have an msrp on it?

$3900 canadian is the cdn MSRP

[The GMT Master]

Honestly, Omega are in a different league. I think Tag vs. Tudor would be a fairer comparison

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Honestly, Omega are in a different league. I think Tag vs. Tudor would be a fairer comparison

Really?

Personally, I don't know, but I find that to be surprising.

Originally Posted by Survivor

Tudor is simply the red headed step child of Rolex....

This statement certainly does not reflect the position of Hans Wilsdorf when the line was introduced.

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2012/0...-tudor-ad.html

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Really?

Personally, I don't know, but I find that to be surprising.



This statement certainly does not reflect the position of Hans Wilsdorf when the line was introduced.

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2012/0...-tudor-ad.html

Yes, and Rolex know that as well. Omega has been a competitor for Rolex throughout its history, barring the dark days of the quartz crisis and the bankruptcy of the brand. It's taken 20 years to get Omega back up to speed again, but they're back at the top of the luxury watch market again, and being a serious competitor for Rolex

Tudor is pitched at the mid-level luxury market, so is amongst the likes of TAG, Raymond Weil, Oris, Longines etc. Tudor competes well against these brands, but Omega is a noticeable step up (assuming we are talking like-for-like current models)

Chris

[00Seven]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Honestly, Omega are in a different league. I think Tag vs. Tudor would be a fairer comparison

Bingo - You can tell who's been drinking the Kool-Aid too much in here. If you like the designs of the Tudor more, then more power to ya. However, to objectively say that Tudor is a better watch is nonsense. They do next to nothing to their movements whereas Omega ETA based movements are highly modified. Oh, also add in the fact that SWATCH group owns ETA AND Omega and come to your own conclusions....it's basically in-house in my book.

[KhronosX]

Originally Posted by 00Seven

Bingo - You can tell who's been drinking the Kool-Aid too much in here. If you like the designs of the Tudor more, then more power to ya. However, to objectively say that Tudor is a better watch is nonsense. They do next to nothing to their movements whereas Omega ETA based movements are highly modified. Oh, also add in the fact that SWATCH group owns ETA AND Omega and come to your own conclusions....it's basically in-house in my book.

Agreed!

[Canadianjam2]

$4500-$5000 cad

[Canadianjam2]

Disagree GMT- I think any watches that both have ETA in them are comparable.

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by Canadianjam2

Disagree GMT- I think any watches that both have ETA in them are comparable.

Exactly. Omega doesn't use base ETA anymore

[Noonan]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Exactly. Omega doesn't use base ETA anymore

Even when they did, I'd choose a 2254.50 over a comparable Tudor model from the same time period any day.

[rain_maker]

Originally Posted by Noonan

Even when they did, I'd choose a 2254.50 over a comparable Tudor model from the same time period any day.

2254.50 is a great watch. Also had a 2538.50 Great White, but I traded it for a Tudor. Different time period of course. YMMV.

[ralpie]

Originally Posted by rain_maker

2254.50 is a great watch. Also had a 2538.50 Great White, but I traded it for a Tudor. Different time period of course. YMMV.

One of my favorite setups- Blue Snowflake on army green Nato.

[Noonan]

Omega over Tudor in almost all comparisons unless you're looking for vintage pieces.

[Canadianjam2]

So none of the new Omega's use ETA movements? I thought they did? I know that Tudor uses the highest spec/grade ETA

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by Canadianjam2

So none of the new Omega's use ETA movements? I thought they did? I know that Tudor uses the highest spec/grade ETA

The only lightly modified ETA movements are the quartz movements (which have been all-but phased out in the men's range now), and a couple of movements used in entry-level Speedmasters. The rest all use the Co-Axial escapement, of which there are two tiers:

Base tier:

Cal. 2500 (basic time & date plus variants) and Cal. 3313 (chronograph with date plus variants). These take an ETA 2892 and a Pigeut 1285 respectively, remove the standard Swiss Lever Escapement, and install Omega's exclusive Co-Axial escapement. On top of this, they are decorated to Omega's standards. This is considered a far greater modification than other mass-market brands that utilise ETA movements, which typically do little more than decorate the movement

Premium tier:

These are 100% in house movements, unique to Omega, and are about the best money can buy right now. You have the cal. 8500 time and date movement (which is technically superior to Rolex's cal. 3135) and the cal. 9300 chronograph movement. Both are formidably good timekeepers, boast impressive power reserves, and extremely long service intervals. They're in a different league to the vast majority of the Swiss watch industry now, and are right at the top of high-end luxury watches (before you go up to the hallowed ground of haute horology)

I hope this explains things

Chris

[slcbbrown]

IMO, unless you are talking only about the newest models, there isn't a whole lot of difference. The Speedy Pro is the biggest exception when it comes to heritage and styling.