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Porker · 12 March 2014, 07:53 AM

Given that the ROO rubber clad (rose gold) is now discontinued, how do you think the residuals will fare?

This has been an iconic AP, could they become a new vintage in years to come, or will they bomb now they are old news as more people seek out the 44mm?

And if they do hold value well, would the watch of choice likely be the older or newer sale dial (newer being with gold rings)?

HL65 · 12 March 2014, 08:15 AM

The newest reference # was short lived and has new movement, changed case back and other subtle changes. Also the allocation on them to Boutiques was minimal(5 to Miami Boutique)and even large AD's got only 1. So for me it is clearly the one to have and they were not discounted by Boutiques so people paid retail. With that said for me watches and investments are two different things and watches should be bought to wear and enjoy! Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

Cru Jones · 12 March 2014, 08:35 AM

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Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

Hey, you can't sneak that by!!

So beautiful and luscious that one, Ken. Huge congrats!! Looks like a perfect fit.

HL65 · 12 March 2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Hey, you can't sneak that by!!

So beautiful and luscious that one, Ken. Huge congrats!! Looks like a perfect fit.

Thanks my friend! Hope you had a great B-Day!

FeelingTheBlues · 12 March 2014, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

The newest reference # was short lived and has new movement, changed case back and other subtle changes. Also the allocation on them to Boutiques was minimal(5 to Miami Boutique)and even large AD's got only 1. So for me it is clearly the one to have and they were not discounted by Boutiques so people paid retail. With that said for me watches and investments are two different things and watches should be bought to wear and enjoy! Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

Goodness gracious, that's quite the quick and subtle incoming!

Congratulations Ken!

As for the question of this thread, I cannot say if it will hold its value well or not as I'm not an expert but I'll have to agree with my friend here, watches and investments are two completely different things and even the best collectibles aren't as good as investing the regular way.

HL65 · 12 March 2014, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

Goodness gracious, that's quite the quick and subtle incoming!

Congratulations Ken!

As for the question of this thread, I cannot say if it will hold its value well or not as I'm not an expert but I'll have to agree with my friend here, watches and investments are two completely different things and even the best collectibles aren't as good as investing the regular way.

Thanks my friend!

singe89 · 12 March 2014, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

WOW Ken....I dont care if it turns out to be a future investment or not...its beautiful today and always will be. Congrats on an excellent piece and I'm sure it will give you joy for many years to come.

HL65 · 12 March 2014, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda

Once again congratulations Ken. Your are slipping my friend where is the BMW steering wheel in the background? It's your trademark photo and at a glance I know it's yours.

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Originally Posted by singe89

WOW Ken....I dont care if it turns out to be a future investment or not...its beautiful today and always will be. Congrats on an excellent piece and I'm sure it will give you joy for many years to come.

Thanks A and Jim! A here you go my friend...

Matt C · 12 March 2014, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Thanks A and Jim! A here you go my friend...

Badass!

mailman · 12 March 2014, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Thanks A and Jim! A here you go my friend...

Congratulations and enjoy my friend

I prefer the pushers on this one over the Cermet models

HL65 · 12 March 2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Congratulations and enjoy my friend

I prefer the pushers on this one over the Cermet models

Thanks my friend!

SamGMT · 12 March 2014, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Thanks A and Jim! A here you go my friend...

Awesome!! Handsome!! Congrats!!

HL65 · 12 March 2014, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SamGMT

Awesome!! Handsome!! Congrats!!

Thanks Sam!

AK797 · 12 March 2014, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

The newest reference # was short lived and has new movement, changed case back and other subtle changes. Also the allocation on them to Boutiques was minimal(5 to Miami Boutique)and even large AD's got only 1. So for me it is clearly the one to have and they were not discounted by Boutiques so people paid retail. With that said for me watches and investments are two different things and watches should be bought to wear and enjoy! Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

Many congrats Ken! Nothing quite like AP gold for me!

HL65 · 12 March 2014, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Many congrats Ken! Nothing quite like AP gold for me!

Thanks Neil my friend and a great investment in joy!

texex91 · 12 March 2014, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

The newest reference # was short lived and has new movement, changed case back and other subtle changes. Also the allocation on them to Boutiques was minimal(5 to Miami Boutique)and even large AD's got only 1. So for me it is clearly the one to have and they were not discounted by Boutiques so people paid retail. With that said for me watches and investments are two different things and watches should be bought to wear and enjoy! Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

Very slick incoming! WOW!!

Stunner Ken

VERY--VERY Jealous!

HL65 · 12 March 2014, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Very slick incoming! WOW!!

Stunner Ken

Thanks Paul my friend!

Randy · 12 March 2014, 11:07 AM

Not many around with new dial change and later H serials, it is and always will be a timeless piece. I have the new 44 in steel and the RGRC and must say the 42mm RC is more comfortable on my wrist.

Hairdude1 · 12 March 2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

The newest reference # was short lived and has new movement, changed case back and other subtle changes. Also the allocation on them to Boutiques was minimal(5 to Miami Boutique)and even large AD's got only 1. So for me it is clearly the one to have and they were not discounted by Boutiques so people paid retail. With that said for me watches and investments are two different things and watches should be bought to wear and enjoy! Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

Amazing pick up Ken!!! Many congrats!!

Soly20 · 12 March 2014, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

The newest reference # was short lived and has new movement, changed case back and other subtle changes. Also the allocation on them to Boutiques was minimal(5 to Miami Boutique)and even large AD's got only 1. So for me it is clearly the one to have and they were not discounted by Boutiques so people paid retail. With that said for me watches and investments are two different things and watches should be bought to wear and enjoy! Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

That's gorgeous Ken. Congrats!

HL65 · 12 March 2014, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Soly20

That's gorgeous Ken. Congrats!

Thanks Soly!

mdtddd2007 · 12 March 2014, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

The newest reference # was short lived and has new movement, changed case back and other subtle changes. Also the allocation on them to Boutiques was minimal(5 to Miami Boutique)and even large AD's got only 1. So for me it is clearly the one to have and they were not discounted by Boutiques so people paid retail. With that said for me watches and investments are two different things and watches should be bought to wear and enjoy! Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

Big Congrats!!!

Dickson Lim · 13 March 2014, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

The newest reference # was short lived and has new movement, changed case back and other subtle changes. Also the allocation on them to Boutiques was minimal(5 to Miami Boutique)and even large AD's got only 1. So for me it is clearly the one to have and they were not discounted by Boutiques so people paid retail. With that said for me watches and investments are two different things and watches should be bought to wear and enjoy! Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01

Investment or not, that's one heck of a cool watch! Big congrats, Ken!

Anyway, can't remember what has been changed on the old vs new RGRC? Kind to enlighten?

HL65 · 13 March 2014, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dickson Lim

Investment or not, that's one heck of a cool watch! Big congrats, Ken!

Anyway, can't remember what has been changed on the old vs new RGRC? Kind to enlighten?

Thanks Dickson! Changes: Darker dial, lighter bezel color, gold surrounds, black date wheel, different case back, different movement, different reference #, and font for numbers. I also think it makes a gray pair with the 5980R. the Patek for work and the AP for play!

ELITEVIDEOGAMES · 13 March 2014, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Thanks Dickson! Changes: Darker dial, lighter bezel color, gold surrounds, black date wheel, different case back, different movement, different reference #, and font for numbers. I also think it makes a gray pair with the 5980R. the Patek for work and the AP for play!

Beautiful Combo

HL65 · 13 March 2014, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ELITEVIDEOGAMES

Beautiful Combo

Thanks Tom!

Porker · 13 March 2014, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

I also think it makes a gray pair with the 5980R. the Patek for work and the AP for play!

Wow, what a pair!

Similar taste to me, probably end up getting the rosé gold offshore 44 to accompany my everyone skydweller :)

TC (Houston) · 13 March 2014, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Thanks Dickson! Changes: Darker dial, lighter bezel color, gold surrounds, black date wheel, different case back, different movement, different reference #, and font for numbers. I also think it makes a gray pair with the 5980R. the Patek for work and the AP for play!

My goodness, I think I could easily give up a collection and have just those two--absolutely perfect pair.

JMW · 15 March 2014, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Thanks Dickson! Changes: Darker dial, lighter bezel color, gold surrounds, black date wheel, different case back, different movement, different reference #, and font for numbers. I also think it makes a gray pair with the 5980R. the Patek for work and the AP for play!

Now that's just showing off

Congrats Ken and your latest and on yet again another amazing pair

Dickson Lim · 15 March 2014, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Thanks Dickson! Changes: Darker dial, lighter bezel color, gold surrounds, black date wheel, different case back, different movement, different reference #, and font for numbers. I also think it makes a gray pair with the 5980R. the Patek for work and the AP for play!

Oh, I am sorry! I actually intended to ask what's the difference on the new RGRC case back instead of all the differences (I must admit posting on forum with an iPhone while having a meeting is definitely not my strength).

Anyway, it's an extremely useful summary for all of our new AP buddies that are debating between the new and old RGRC!

p/s: Lovely shot and duo, Ken! Work or play, I am sure it feels awesome with either one of them one strapped on the wrist!

12 March 2014, 07:53 AM	#1
Porker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: North West UK Posts: 142	ROO rubber clad - investment or money pit? Given that the ROO rubber clad (rose gold) is now discontinued, how do you think the residuals will fare? This has been an iconic AP, could they become a new vintage in years to come, or will they bomb now they are old news as more people seek out the 44mm? And if they do hold value well, would the watch of choice likely be the older or newer sale dial (newer being with gold rings)?

12 March 2014, 08:15 AM	#2
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,236	The newest reference # was short lived and has new movement, changed case back and other subtle changes. Also the allocation on them to Boutiques was minimal(5 to Miami Boutique)and even large AD's got only 1. So for me it is clearly the one to have and they were not discounted by Boutiques so people paid retail. With that said for me watches and investments are two different things and watches should be bought to wear and enjoy! Here is my 1 day old brand spanking new I series 26178OK.OO.D002CA.01 __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

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Randy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Ohio Watch: AP, Rolex, Panerai Posts: 1,241	Not many around with new dial change and later H serials, it is and always will be a timeless piece. I have the new 44 in steel and the RGRC and must say the 42mm RC is more comfortable on my wrist.

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