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Old 12 June 2016, 12:21 PM   #1
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Are you OCD (OK determined) to have the latest movement?

I will start this post by saying yes, I am, I always fight the urge to have the latest and greatest in everything I own; but especially technology. I am an Engineer by trade so maybe that is the reason, but it irks me if I don't have the most advanced and recently released version of anything. I was wondering if anyone else is like that with their Rolex(es)? I am looking forward to picking up a new 41 DJ II because of the new 3235 movement. I know there are some differences of fit and dimensions from the older DJ II, but even if there were none, I would feel compelled to purchase the watch with the most advanced workings. This probably doesn't make a lot of sense since the old DJ II movement is exceptional, and there will probably be some great deals to be had on that model, but I just could not purchase it knowing there was a newer (and theoretically better) movement available. If Rolex released a new movement inside my 216570, and EVERYTHING else about the watch remained identical, I would still feel absolutely compelled to upgrade to it; (maybe I need therapy).

I am sure the vintage owners will say "no" to this question (and more power to you guys ) but does anyone else feel the same?
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Old 12 June 2016, 12:33 PM   #2
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Depends on the impact of the new features of the movement to me. For instance, I am very much looking forward to the increased power reserve given I frequently rotate wearing my watches. However, other than that, I'm pretty happy with the current and older movements.
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Old 12 June 2016, 12:44 PM   #3
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Not me. Although with modern watches (non-vintage) I tend to buy the newest I can afford, just like modern Porsches.
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Old 12 June 2016, 12:56 PM   #4
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Not necessarily the latest movement but it must be an in house movement.
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Old 12 June 2016, 04:04 PM   #5
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Not necessarily the latest movement but it must be an in house movement.
What is the draw for you with the in-house movement?
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Old 13 June 2016, 02:29 AM   #6
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What is the draw for you with the in-house movement?

I can't justify spending that much money on a watch that has an inexpensive non unique movement. Many ETA and Valjoux movements are equally or more accurate than a Rolex movement and much less expensive to service. I get that. To me it's like buying a BMW or Mercedes with a generic Chrysler motor. I'm not knocking non in house movements...but for me I want an in house movement for the money.
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Old 14 June 2016, 02:06 PM   #7
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I can't justify spending that much money on a watch that has an inexpensive non unique movement. Many ETA and Valjoux movements are equally or more accurate than a Rolex movement and much less expensive to service. I get that. To me it's like buying a BMW or Mercedes with a generic Chrysler motor. I'm not knocking non in house movements...but for me I want an in house movement for the money.
Fair enough. Just wondering what your thought process. These in-house movement terms get thrown around so much these days, and I'm wondering whether really valid any more or not. Of course, everyone has a right to their own personal preference, and I like hearing people's thoughts on the matter. Thanks.
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Old 12 June 2016, 12:58 PM   #8
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I just flipped a sub-c and a datejust towards a new DD-40. The power reserve was a big draw for me.

I'm in absolutely no hurry but I will replace the sub when the 32xx movement trickles down to the sport models. Hopefully the smurf will be offered in darker, less noticeable colors by then.
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Old 12 June 2016, 01:12 PM   #9
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For friends and loved ones with this this syndrome, we need modular movements. Like crate motors for cars, you could just buy the new one and voilą.
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Old 12 June 2016, 01:23 PM   #10
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Nah. I don't care too much about how advanced manufacturers claim their movements have gotten. Even $50 movements can be regulated to run amazingly accurately.

I have 40 year old watches that were my father's, and those ancient movements still run great.

Not to say that I don't appreciate the advances that many brands are making, but I don't need to have the latest thing inside my watches.

The specific example of the DJ41 is one I've been thinking about lately as well. My father wants a two tone datejust and I'm trying to figure out whether he should get the DJ2 or the DJ41. The movement differences are not being taken into consideration at all.
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Old 13 June 2016, 02:42 AM   #11
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Nah. I don't care too much about how advanced manufacturers claim their movements have gotten. Even $50 movements can be regulated to run amazingly accurately..........

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Old 12 June 2016, 01:36 PM   #12
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Unless Rolex says that the movement no longer requires lubrication service I don't care...
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Old 12 June 2016, 01:38 PM   #13
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I actually love people with this condition as I get to buy their "old" stuff at a discount when they "upgrade"!
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Old 12 June 2016, 01:56 PM   #14
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A new movement can have teething troubles, unexpected issues which take time to iron-out. As the owner of a DD40 I know....you'd be wise to wait a month or two..buy then, from the very latest stock. I speak from hard experience, being an 'early adopter' is rarely a good idea.
And wanting new things, sensible or not, has nothing to do with 'OCD'. Or does every woman who buys the latest dress have a mental condition? Or every guy who buys the new model car? But again, if you do, you are the guy who gets the teething troubles...mature technology is usually more reliable.
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Old 12 June 2016, 02:04 PM   #15
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I've been thinking the same, I absolutely love the DJ II in blue stick dial and fluted bezel but I've been putting off buying it because the one with the new movement is coming next year but after giving it some thoughts there's nothing wrong with 31xx movement, people are still buying the sub, gmt, explorer etc, this movement has been around for decades and proven to be reliable and accurate so I think I will pick up a DJ II this year
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Old 12 June 2016, 03:11 PM   #16
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If the new movement were revolutionary (very dramatic increases in service intervals or power reserve), I could see the point, but, as it is, the prior movements are very reliable and accurate, so, the changes, while good to have if buying a particular model for the first time, are incremental and do not necessitate an upgrade (IMHO).
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Old 12 June 2016, 03:21 PM   #17
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The fact that a certain model has a new movement doesn't concern me at all. In fact I have a Black Bay with ETA movement on hold for me because I like the the current version with the rose and curved script better than the new release with the in house movement.
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Old 12 June 2016, 04:12 PM   #18
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No, I don't have that compulsion.

I'm glad that my 14060M has the upgraded movement of the 114060, but it was something I found out after having bought it.
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Old 12 June 2016, 05:18 PM   #19
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I have a bit of black dial OCD. But movements don't make me feel compelled to leap to a new watch.
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Old 12 June 2016, 05:21 PM   #20
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Old 12 June 2016, 09:31 PM   #21
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No, not solely based on new movement unless it's a dramatic improvement. Size and look may do it for me as I purchased the DJII solely for its look and bigger size. I have been wishing for a larger DJ and Rolex granted that wish and I was happy about it.
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Old 12 June 2016, 09:46 PM   #22
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Hola Paul!

Well since my introduction to the world of vintage Rolex with my recent acquisition of the 1680 the older is better for me. I was like you but my grails now would be the very first Subs and GMTs. So the older the movement (and watch) the better.

However it is worth noting that ceramic bezels, new clasps (they are mechanical marvels, i mean the DSSD clasp is outstanding) and updated movements are also nice and very appealing. I very much enjoy the DSSD for example.

However in respect to movements, the 3135 for example is a tried and tested beast of a movement and as accurate as it gets. I am not sure if newer is better time will only tell. I have spoken to some watchmakers who swear that the older ones are more bomb proof.

Finally, I find that i am more into getting the newest stuff when digital technology is involved (iPhones, Macs etc). An updated CPU, RAM, Camera will have more impact on the use of such equipment. The impact of 3235 over 3135 will most likely be barely noticed.
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Old 12 June 2016, 11:20 PM   #23
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A more accurate movement and better power reserve do appeal to me in theory but in reality I don't time my watches and rarely wear any two days in a row.
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Old 12 June 2016, 11:24 PM   #24
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I seem to have that problem with golf clubs. I'm still a 16 handicap.
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Old 12 June 2016, 11:39 PM   #25
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Old 13 June 2016, 12:07 AM   #26
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Paul,

To be honest, the movements that I currently have in my watches far exceed my expectations. That said, if a newer model comes along that catches my eye has the newer movement, it certainly won't hurt my feelings any.
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Are you OCD (OK determined) to have the latest movement?

I'm an engineer as well so understand your rationale, also like the latest and greatest whenever can afford it


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When it comes to watches, having the latest movement is not something that I can get bent out of shape over
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I care more about in house than latest. Hence why I got the pelagos with the in house movement.
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