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GerardoG · 12 January 2017, 08:25 AM

Dear TRF: please don't laugh (ok, maybe I deserve it). I will be adjusting a couple of my wife's bracelets and find that I still have Loctite. However, the tube is probably 3-4 years old. Question: does Loctite expire?

Sourcing 222 here is only available in industrial quantities, and to be honest I find it useless to spend $30/40 us for something I need 3-4 drops of. Comments?

As always, Thank You!

Bo-Dacious · 12 January 2017, 08:30 AM

Loctite has a shelf life of 1 year after the date indicated on the label.

If you're not a prime client, shame on you.

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-22221...ds=loctite+222

nobbylon · 12 January 2017, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo-Dacious

Loctite has a shelf life of 1 year after the date indicated on the label.

If you're not a prime client, shame on you.

https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-22221...ds=loctite+222

I've never heard of a use by date and have been using loctite on engine rebuilds for years. Never a problem or a loose nut or bolt ;)
You'll be fine with what you have. Remember to only put the thread locker only in the female part. Don't put loctite on the actual screw.

Bo-Dacious · 12 January 2017, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nobbylon

I've never heard of a use by date and have been using loctite on engine rebuilds for years. Never a problem or a loose nut or bolt ;)
You'll be fine with what you have. Remember to only put the thread locker only in the female part. Don't put loctite on the actual screw.

Same for me. I'm sure loctite gives the 1 year shelf life recommendation to cover themselves in case of failures.

Chewbacca · 12 January 2017, 10:08 AM

i've used the nail polish lacquer finish (clear) with its brush applicator on a few link screws in the past and it worked very well.. it also dries in seconds instead of the loc tite 12 - 24hrs.

no color to deal with and the brush applicator is helpful. it was easier that the blue loc tite i used on my THC which was a bit droopy when i didn't shake it well.

Sublover2166 · 12 January 2017, 08:34 AM

I have used Loc-tite several years old. No problem!

Vanessa CW21 · 12 January 2017, 08:39 AM

You'll be fine, but get this one instead for next time:
https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Blue-...s=loctite+blue

nobbylon · 12 January 2017, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

You'll be fine, but get this one instead for next time:
https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Blue-...s=loctite+blue

242 is too strong for tiny threads.
222 is the correct locker

Vanessa CW21 · 12 January 2017, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobbylon

242 is too strong for tiny threads.
222 is the correct locker

ok

Runnin' Rebel · 12 January 2017, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

ok

lol

That was too funny

cop414 · 12 January 2017, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

ok

You're a riot Vanessa!

Knappo 1307 · 12 January 2017, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

ok

I spit my water out...

Chewbacca · 12 January 2017, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

ok

be like Elsa.

mailman · 12 January 2017, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

ok

GerardoG · 12 January 2017, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

You'll be fine, but get this one instead for next time:
https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Blue-...s=loctite+blue

Gracias!

WAK4 · 12 January 2017, 08:49 AM

Looks like Vanessa recommends a bit stronger stuff, and even cheaper.

I've used this with success...let me know where "here" is and I have no problem ordering and shipping to your address for you

https://smile.amazon.com/Loctite-386...C+6-milliliter

EDIT: FWIW, turns out I ordered it over a year and a half ago myself. Just used it couple of weeks ago, and the screw seems to be firmly seated when I tested it.

GerardoG · 12 January 2017, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WAK4

Looks like Vanessa recommends a bit stronger stuff, and even cheaper.

I've used this with success...let me know where "here" is and I have no problem ordering and shipping to your address for you

https://smile.amazon.com/Loctite-386...C+6-milliliter

EDIT: FWIW, turns out I ordered it over a year and a half ago myself. Just used it couple of weeks ago, and the screw seems to be firmly seated when I tested it.

Thank you. Mexico. That is exactly what I bought last time at a hardware store in the US. Here, smallest bottle is 50ml, $30-35us

If the 6ml tube has lasted years, a 50ml container...well, I could buy 200 watches

Rolex addict · 12 January 2017, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GerardoG

Thank you. Mexico. That is exactly what I bought last time at a hardware store in the US. Here, smallest bottle is 50ml, $30-35us

If the 6ml tube has lasted years, a 50ml container...well, I could buy 200 watches

200 watches. You're going to be busy at this years GTG!!!

You should be ok with old Loctite. It may not work as good as fresh material, but will work.

swils8610 · 12 January 2017, 08:52 AM

It will be fine G. Use what to have.

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nobbylon · 12 January 2017, 09:00 AM

There is nothing wrong with using blue or even red to lock threads on the tiny screws. The problems will occur if and when you wish to remove the screw. Blue is stronger than purple 222 and you run the risk of twisting the screw on removal. Red if done correctly will require heat and even then, on such a small screw will possibly end up twisted or even broken screws.
There are 2 types of each and the first of each colour require proper thread cleaning to work correctly. The second type can be used regardless.

When using thread lock make sure that you only put locker in the bracelet thread(female) part.
If you loctite the screw the risk is that excess loctite will secure it to the center link and when dry the movement of the link will rotate the screw in the thread.

nobbylon · 12 January 2017, 09:48 AM

221 as far as i'm aware is the same as 222 but requires the cleaning of threads to be secured

swils8610 · 12 January 2017, 10:23 AM

Well said Vanessa!! I wish you would post more. I really like the info you provide and enjoy your insight.

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ILuvSubs · 12 January 2017, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by swils8610

Well said Vanessa!! I wish you would post more. I really like the info you provide and enjoy your insight.

Would love to hear more from our TRF expert watchmakers!

Runnin' Rebel · 12 January 2017, 12:16 PM

I can bring some down to McAllen if you want me too. Let me know and I'll go to Home Depot and try to find some and hand deliver it

77T · 12 January 2017, 12:18 PM

So fake news can even wikileak into TRF

I think for link screws I'd listen to the CW21 watchmaker...

Vanessa CW21 · 12 January 2017, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

So fake news can even wikileak into TRF

I think for link screws I'd listen to the CW21 watchmaker...

No, he was right. It's just not that big of a deal to me to go with a loctite that a tiny bit stronger... Especially if it's that much cheaper. Just don't use the red Loctite

nobbylon · 12 January 2017, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

No, he was right. It's just not that big of a deal to me to go with a loctite that a tiny bit stronger... Especially if it's that much cheaper. Just don't use the red Loctite

thank you

SearChart · 12 January 2017, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

ok

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

No, he was right. It's just not that big of a deal to me to go with a loctite that a tiny bit stronger... Especially if it's that much cheaper. Just don't use the red Loctite

Agreed.

222 might be ideal? but the blue 242 is fine, I had 242 in my bench when I was doing my internship at RSC. Never had an issue with any of the screws. And green for things like crowns.

nobbylon · 12 January 2017, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

Agreed.

222 might be ideal? but the blue 242 is fine, I had 242 in my bench when I was doing my internship at RSC. Never had an issue with any of the screws. And green for things like crowns.

good info, thanks

Abdullah71601 · 12 January 2017, 01:02 PM

http://www.loctite.co.th/tht/content...Shelf_Life.pdf

12 January 2017, 08:25 AM	#1
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Loctite question Dear TRF: please don't laugh (ok, maybe I deserve it). I will be adjusting a couple of my wife's bracelets and find that I still have Loctite. However, the tube is probably 3-4 years old. Question: does Loctite expire? Sourcing 222 here is only available in industrial quantities, and to be honest I find it useless to spend $30/40 us for something I need 3-4 drops of. Comments? As always, Thank You!

12 January 2017, 08:39 AM	#7
Vanessa CW21 TechXpert & 2016 Patron Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mx Posts: 1,572	You'll be fine, but get this one instead for next time: https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Blue-...s=loctite+blue __________________ Member# 5731 Instagram: @vanessa.cw21 Watch my Rolex repair video: https://youtu.be/jDnaotCTpTA

12 January 2017, 12:16 PM	#24
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	I can bring some down to McAllen if you want me too. Let me know and I'll go to Home Depot and try to find some and hand deliver it __________________ ♛

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77T 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,198	So fake news can even wikileak into TRF I think for link screws I'd listen to the CW21 watchmaker... __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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12 January 2017, 08:30 AM	#2
Bo-Dacious "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Unknown Posts: 289	Loctite has a shelf life of 1 year after the date indicated on the label. If you're not a prime client, shame on you. https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-22221...ds=loctite+222

12 January 2017, 10:08 AM	#5
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,110	i've used the nail polish lacquer finish (clear) with its brush applicator on a few link screws in the past and it worked very well.. it also dries in seconds instead of the loc tite 12 - 24hrs. no color to deal with and the brush applicator is helpful. it was easier that the blue loc tite i used on my THC which was a bit droopy when i didn't shake it well.

12 January 2017, 08:34 AM	#6
Sublover2166 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: John Location: Manassas,Virginia Watch: Ol'Bluesy & Hulk Posts: 2,871	I have used Loc-tite several years old. No problem!

12 January 2017, 08:49 AM	#16
WAK4 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Bill Location: NJ Watch: Always changing Posts: 4,172	Looks like Vanessa recommends a bit stronger stuff, and even cheaper. I've used this with success...let me know where "here" is and I have no problem ordering and shipping to your address for you https://smile.amazon.com/Loctite-386...C+6-milliliter EDIT: FWIW, turns out I ordered it over a year and a half ago myself. Just used it couple of weeks ago, and the screw seems to be firmly seated when I tested it.

12 January 2017, 08:52 AM	#19
swils8610 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 9,242	It will be fine G. Use what to have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

12 January 2017, 09:00 AM	#20
nobbylon Banned Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Nederlands Watch: DSSD Posts: 365	There is nothing wrong with using blue or even red to lock threads on the tiny screws. The problems will occur if and when you wish to remove the screw. Blue is stronger than purple 222 and you run the risk of twisting the screw on removal. Red if done correctly will require heat and even then, on such a small screw will possibly end up twisted or even broken screws. There are 2 types of each and the first of each colour require proper thread cleaning to work correctly. The second type can be used regardless. When using thread lock make sure that you only put locker in the bracelet thread(female) part. If you loctite the screw the risk is that excess loctite will secure it to the center link and when dry the movement of the link will rotate the screw in the thread.

12 January 2017, 09:48 AM	#21
nobbylon Banned Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Nederlands Watch: DSSD Posts: 365	221 as far as i'm aware is the same as 222 but requires the cleaning of threads to be secured

12 January 2017, 10:23 AM	#22
swils8610 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 9,242	Well said Vanessa!! I wish you would post more. I really like the info you provide and enjoy your insight. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

12 January 2017, 01:02 PM	#30
Abdullah71601 Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Calumet Harbor Watch: ing da Bears Posts: 13,565	http://www.loctite.co.th/tht/content...Shelf_Life.pdf

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