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spoilsofwar01 · 24 April 2018, 11:18 PM

Still searching, this one has come up, I've asked for clearer photos of the dial and case as the lum at 6 o'clock looks off, what's your thoughts? is it a wrongun???? many thanks "H"

Solicitor · 24 April 2018, 11:41 PM

Sorry sir...FAKE. (including box and certificate)

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ttnpb · 26 April 2018, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Solicitor

Sorry sir...FAKE. (including box and certificate)

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Why don't we elaborate a bit?

jay_kay · 24 April 2018, 11:44 PM

I really can't see a problem with that from the pics.

spoilsofwar01 · 25 April 2018, 12:18 AM

Ive requested more photos of the dial, await the outcome of these.

spoilsofwar01 · 25 April 2018, 12:22 AM

The bracelet, does this look right?

J_1964 · 25 April 2018, 01:58 PM

I await better photos, but that 6 doesn't look centered to me.

importstunna · 25 April 2018, 03:01 PM

I would ask for more close up pictures including tagged ones.

Old Expat Beast · 25 April 2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spoilsofwar01

Still searching, this one has come up, I've asked for clearer photos of the dial and case as the lum at 6 o'clock looks off, what's your thoughts? is it a wrongun???? many thanks "H"

Everything looks pretty ok to me. What you refer to as "lum" on the 6 is just enamel (or similar), as the numerals were not lumed on this model. The enamel was often offset, too. It was a known QC issue on the 114270. Just a quirk of this model, really. I would like to see what is written on that warranty paper though as there seems to be a lot of handwriting showing through.

spoilsofwar01 · 25 April 2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Everything looks pretty ok to me. What you refer to as "lum" on the 6 is just enamel (or similar), as the numerals were not lumed on this model. The enamel was often offset, too. It was a known QC issue on the 114270. Just a quirk of this model, really. I would like to see what is written on that warranty paper though as there seems to be a lot of handwriting showing through.

Hi Adam, leave this with me, as yet no more photos have been forth coming.... benefit of the doubt the seller may just have been busy last night

DanMdR · 26 April 2018, 02:24 AM

Ask for a Lume pic. If the 3 6 9 light up, its a fake.

ttnpb · 26 April 2018, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DanMdR

Ask for a Lume pic. If the 3 6 9 light up, its a fake.

Uh.

Relatively sure there are dial variations that had lumed 3,6,9.

Old Expat Beast · 26 April 2018, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ttnpb

Uh.

Relatively sure there are dial variations that had lumed 3,6,9.

Not for the 114270, nor the 14270....you have to go right back to the 1016 for lumed 3/6/9.

spoilsofwar01 · 26 April 2018, 09:06 PM

Ive attached Photos of the paperwork from the seller, Ive also contacted the Jewellers who originally sold it, they are also looking into this for me, as it has the original owners address I took a look on the internet at the property and found out that it sold in 2014 for £950k its a dead swanky pad at that, let me know what you think of the paperwork and additional photos all the best "H"

ttnpb · 27 April 2018, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Not for the 114270, nor the 14270....you have to go right back to the 1016 for lumed 3/6/9.

I know that there are 214270 dial variations with lumed numerals. I thought there were for this ref. as well.

You're likely correct.

freefly · 27 April 2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ttnpb

I know that there are 214270 dial variations with lumed numerals. I thought there were for this ref. as well.

You're likely correct.

He is.

All looks fine from here (watch, papers, box, etc.). Probably a D or Z serial.

Also, the issue @ 6 o'clock the OP mentioned looks to be a scratch/blemish on the crystal, not the dial/marker.

77T · 26 April 2018, 09:35 AM

Yes for a time the Explorer had lumed Arabics

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importstunna · 26 April 2018, 09:16 PM

Watch looks fine to me. What serial number is that? Asking because I am unsure if that's the right box for it, if that's something that's of importance to you. Good luck!

GLADIATOR · 27 April 2018, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by importstunna

Watch looks fine to me. What serial number is that? Asking because I am unsure if that's the right box for it, if that's something that's of importance to you. Good luck!

Papers look 2007 - that would be the approx date

spoilsofwar01 · 30 April 2018, 05:07 AM

Ive pulled the trigger and got a deal.....this was £300 less than what another dealer was offering which then jumped up to £4100, as prices on pre owned are on the increase!?!?!?

A full show and tell once it arrives,

Many thanks for all the support "H"

24 April 2018, 11:18 PM	#1
spoilsofwar01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: "H" Location: England Watch: ing Rainclouds Posts: 1,439	Explorer 114270 is this a fake / copy ? Still searching, this one has come up, I've asked for clearer photos of the dial and case as the lum at 6 o'clock looks off, what's your thoughts? is it a wrongun???? many thanks "H" Attached Images

24 April 2018, 11:44 PM	#4
jay_kay "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barrowford Watch: Tudor Black Bay 54 Posts: 1,699	I really can't see a problem with that from the pics. __________________ Rolex Explorer 214270, Omega Speedmaster '1957 Relaunch' 3594.50.00, Panerai Luminor 1950 PAM00127-E, Panerai Radiomir 1936 PAM00249-I, Panerai Mare Nostrum PAM00716-T, Panerai PAM00785-Q Set, Panerai Luminor Black Seal PAM00594-Q, Panerai Luminor Daylight PAM00604-Q, Tudor Black Bay 54 79000N, Heuer Carrera Re-Edition CS3113, Hamilton Military W10 & TAG Heuer F1

25 April 2018, 12:18 AM	#5
spoilsofwar01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: "H" Location: England Watch: ing Rainclouds Posts: 1,439	Unsure, more comments welcome Ive requested more photos of the dial, await the outcome of these.

25 April 2018, 12:22 AM	#6
spoilsofwar01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: "H" Location: England Watch: ing Rainclouds Posts: 1,439	The bracelet The bracelet, does this look right? Attached Images

25 April 2018, 01:58 PM	#7
J_1964 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Jim Location: NoCal USA Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,955	Off Center? I await better photos, but that 6 doesn't look centered to me.

24 April 2018, 11:41 PM	#2
Solicitor "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 317	Sorry sir...FAKE. (including box and certificate) Sent from my SM-N9208 using Tapatalk

25 April 2018, 03:01 PM	#8
importstunna "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: World Watch: BLNR Posts: 855	I would ask for more close up pictures including tagged ones.

26 April 2018, 02:24 AM	#11
DanMdR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: West Coast Watch: OP 36 Posts: 312	Ask for a Lume pic. If the 3 6 9 light up, its a fake.

26 April 2018, 09:06 PM	#14
spoilsofwar01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: "H" Location: England Watch: ing Rainclouds Posts: 1,439	Further details Ive attached Photos of the paperwork from the seller, Ive also contacted the Jewellers who originally sold it, they are also looking into this for me, as it has the original owners address I took a look on the internet at the property and found out that it sold in 2014 for £950k its a dead swanky pad at that, let me know what you think of the paperwork and additional photos all the best "H" Attached Images

26 April 2018, 09:35 AM	#17
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,013	Yes for a time the Explorer had lumed Arabics Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

26 April 2018, 09:16 PM	#18
importstunna "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: World Watch: BLNR Posts: 855	Watch looks fine to me. What serial number is that? Asking because I am unsure if that's the right box for it, if that's something that's of importance to you. Good luck!

30 April 2018, 05:07 AM	#20
spoilsofwar01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: "H" Location: England Watch: ing Rainclouds Posts: 1,439	Ive pulled the trigger and got a deal.....this was £300 less than what another dealer was offering which then jumped up to £4100, as prices on pre owned are on the increase!?!?!? A full show and tell once it arrives, Many thanks for all the support "H"

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