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Old 15 January 2019, 06:23 AM   #1
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Do I have a problem

If your new from the AD Rolex superlative chronometer was running 5 seconds fast each day would you take it in and have them adjust it?
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Old 15 January 2019, 06:26 AM   #2
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No. These watches take a good few months to settle down.
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Old 15 January 2019, 09:19 AM   #3
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No. These watches take a good few months to settle down.
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Old 15 January 2019, 10:49 AM   #4
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No. These watches take a good few months to settle down.
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Old 15 January 2019, 11:42 AM   #5
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My wife’s DJ was losing about 4 minutes a week . Rolex guarantees 3 shot 1/2 inch group at 100 yards. We sent it back and they rebarreled it. Shoots great now.
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Old 2 February 2019, 07:35 PM   #6
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No. These watches take a good few months to settle down.
If this were true would any Rolex watch pass their first COSC test far less their own internal -2/+2?

Does Rolex keep all new watches running for a good few months while they settle down.

Do these few months also apply to Rolex watches that are sent in for correction?
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Old 15 January 2019, 06:29 AM   #7
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All the Rolexes I've owned were purchased brand new and kept time within +/- 2 seconds right out of the box. My WG Daytona started out as +/- 2 seconds out of it's coffin and is now running -1 seconds per day.

I think you may have an issue. Keep a log and if it still hasn't settled by next month, I would take it in.
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Old 15 January 2019, 07:03 AM   #8
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My 6 month old DJ41 ran nearly perfect when I got it, and in the last 2 months, it's slowed (almost at once) to -6 per day. Not really happy about it.

So yeah, it settled down alright.
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Old 15 January 2019, 07:14 AM   #9
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I use my phone for the time. That's NOT what a Rolex is for
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Old 15 January 2019, 07:20 AM   #10
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I've had it for a month now . . . The first week was -1/+2 and the past two weeks its been +5. This is my first new mechanical watch in at least 20 years and I own several vintage Valjoux engine watches. Right now my new Rolex is on pace in keeping slightly better time than those vintage watches.
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Old 15 January 2019, 07:35 AM   #11
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+5 is a bit much. Try resting it on it's side, crown up when you are not wearing it at night. If it is still +5 or worse you may wish to think about having it repaired. Also make sure you are wearing it enough to keep the power reserve high.
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Old 15 January 2019, 07:36 AM   #12
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I'd take the watch back and demand a refund - unacceptable timekeeping.
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Old 15 January 2019, 07:59 AM   #13
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I'd take the watch back and demand a refund - unacceptable timekeeping.
I would also demand that the salesman who sold it you was given a dammed good horsewhipping. Jolly bad show wot Ho.
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Old 15 January 2019, 07:50 AM   #14
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I would most definitely take it back to have it adjusted
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Old 15 January 2019, 08:03 AM   #15
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There are members on this forum that advise your new watch needs to "settle in", meaning it has to adjust to your wearing pattern. I'm not convinced this is necessary but am not an expert. There are other members on this forum who have zero regard for accuracy and will tell you 5 seconds is nothing to worry about.

Personally, I have had great success with having inaccurate new watches regulated (two DJs and one EXPII in the last 28 years) and was a much happier owner as a result. It's your watch, your satisfaction, your decision on what to do.
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Old 15 January 2019, 08:46 AM   #16
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Personally, I have had great success with having inaccurate new watches regulated (two DJs and one EXPII in the last 28 years) and was a much happier owner as a result. It's your watch, your satisfaction, your decision on what to do.
I'm visiting my AD later today to pickup an extra link I ordered. Though after wearing the watch for a month I realize I don't need it, but I'm going to pick it up anyway. I'll ask them then to look at it.

[QUOTE=swatty;9261245]Congrats on your new watch,
What model did you get? And others have said I would leave it a few months before regulating, Make sure its fully wound and you are wearing it when checking for accuracy. [/QUOTE

Its an Explorer 1 and I love it, no regrets!! I don't mind giving it a few months for the movement to settle in. Maybe that's why it first ran at +2 and now has jumped to +5, it just needs to get to know me (though not sure if it likes me yet). Just wanted to know if this is out of the norm . . . I give it 10-20 winds every morning and wear it all day.
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Old 15 January 2019, 08:59 AM   #17
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I give it 10-20 winds every morning and wear it all day.
I am not saying that this is causing your issues, but giving it winds every morning is causing extra wear and tear that your watch does not need. You would be well advised not to do this. If you are wearing your watch every day, then simply wearing it is more than sufficient to keep your watch powered up.

The last time I manipulated the crown of my Rolex was about 3 months ago.
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Old 15 January 2019, 11:45 AM   #18
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I am not saying that this is causing your issues, but giving it winds every morning is causing extra wear and tear that your watch does not need. You would be well advised not to do this. If you are wearing your watch every day, then simply wearing it is more than sufficient to keep your watch powered up.

The last time I manipulated the crown of my Rolex was about 3 months ago.
If a Rolex cannot withstand daily winding, something is wrong. The amount of wear from hand winding is minimal.

Regarding other theories in this thread, mechanical watches don’t adapt their rates to individual wear. It makes no sense. These movements run at 28,800 VPH and the goal is to be as close to this in every position. The Breguet overcoil helps in this regard but mechanically the escapement does not “adjust” to the wearer.
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Old 15 January 2019, 12:29 PM   #19
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If a Rolex cannot withstand daily winding, something is wrong. The amount of wear from hand winding is minimal.

This is true. The winding mechanism is very robust and designed to withstand repeated use. However a daily wind is totally unnecessary if the watch is only left unworn overnight. The Rolex automatic system is extremely efficient unlike say an ETA28** so doesn’t need manually topping up. Only if the watch has fully run down would you need to manually wind (30-40 turns) in order to fully charge the mainspring to deliver the proper degree of amplitude to the escapement.
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Old 15 January 2019, 06:46 PM   #20
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If a Rolex cannot withstand daily winding, something is wrong. The amount of wear from hand winding is minimal.
Sure, and it can "withstand being slammed against a wall every day". The question is, why would you do it? The wear from doing this once is negligible. The wear from doing it every day for a year would be noticeable. The wear from doing it every day for 10 years would be very serious. This is not a manual wind watch. This is an automatic watch and as such it is NOT designed to be wound every day.

This is why I don't like the idea of buying used watches. People have different ideas about how to treat watches and think certain practices are fine, as long as the watch can "withstand" it...
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Old 15 January 2019, 09:03 AM   #21
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[QUOTE=Jerrocop;9261335]I'm visiting my AD later today to pickup an extra link I ordered. Though after wearing the watch for a month I realize I don't need it, but I'm going to pick it up anyway. I'll ask them then to look at it.

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Congrats on your new watch,
What model did you get? And others have said I would leave it a few months before regulating, Make sure its fully wound and you are wearing it when checking for accuracy. [/QUOTE

Its an Explorer 1 and I love it, no regrets!! I don't mind giving it a few months for the movement to settle in. Maybe that's why it first ran at +2 and now has jumped to +5, it just needs to get to know me (though not sure if it likes me yet). Just wanted to know if this is out of the norm . . . I give it 10-20 winds every morning and wear it all day.
If you are wearing it daily no need to wind every day.
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Old 15 January 2019, 09:07 AM   #22
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Yes you have a problem, mechanical watches like yours are not very accurate. Quartz or better yet a watch that sets itself using an atomic clock connected to the internet would be preferable.

5s a day = 1m a week. I think my new BLRO is about the same, it’s fine I just correct it when I notice it and move on with my life.
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Old 15 January 2019, 08:09 AM   #23
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I wouldn't worry about it just now. My 3 month old GMT is around +5 to +7. I was going to give it 6 months to settle in before I take it to be regulated. Im not worried as I know it will be fixed under warranty.
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Old 15 January 2019, 08:15 AM   #24
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Congrats on your new watch,
What model did you get? And others have said I would leave it a few months before regulating, Make sure its fully wound and you are wearing it when checking for accuracy.
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Old 15 January 2019, 09:16 AM   #25
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I would not. Not because I wouldn't feel slightly disappointed but because the hassle of going to the RSC and having it opened just for that is just not worth it to me. I can live with +5, no problem. I could go as far as +10. One gets stronger when faced with adversity :ROFL:
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Old 15 January 2019, 09:16 AM   #26
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You have warranty from Rolex so i suggest use it first for a few months. If its still running slow that is the time you send to RSA to regulate
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Old 15 January 2019, 09:20 AM   #27
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+5 is definitely out of current specs, and regardless of the ribbing one might take from some members about being so picky, personally I would not find it acceptable. My 3135 Sub is within +1 after two years, so +/- 2 is definitely achievable. I would pay no mind to those who say you should go quartz if you want better than +5.

That said, I would recommend you play around with resting positions before taking it in, and make sure you're giving it a full wind before each evaluation period. Check it every 24 hours against a known reference time, like time.gov. You might find that makes a difference - or it might not. Since opening the case by non-RSC would void the warranty, it would need to be sent to RSC for regulation, meaning you can expect to be without it for several weeks. Better to be completely sure it's warranted before going to the trouble.
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Old 16 January 2019, 02:39 PM   #28
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+5 is definitely out of current specs, and regardless of the ribbing one might take from some members about being so picky, personally I would not find it acceptable. My 3135 Sub is within +1 after two years, so +/- 2 is definitely achievable. I would pay no mind to those who say you should go quartz if you want better than +5.

That said, I would recommend you play around with resting positions before taking it in, and make sure you're giving it a full wind before each evaluation period. Check it every 24 hours against a known reference time, like time.gov. You might find that makes a difference - or it might not. Since opening the case by non-RSC would void the warranty, it would need to be sent to RSC for regulation, meaning you can expect to be without it for several weeks. Better to be completely sure it's warranted before going to the trouble.
I agree.
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Old 15 January 2019, 09:22 AM   #29
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I dunno. Someone always says it's NBD, but these aren't cheap, if I pay $12K for a watch and Rolex tells me it's +-2 a day, that's what I expect.

My watch lost 65 seconds in 14 days. That's BS. I use it to catch trains and such, they're on time.

I didn't buy a Rolex cause it's shiny and kinds tells time.

For me, the draw of a Rolex is its mechanical superiority/toughness, coupled with it's beauty as a piece of jewelry.

Maybe I should have bought a bracelet! LOL

You guys who say it's NBD are not getting what you paid for. Some don't care, some do. It's like buying a car with a V8 that only runs on 7 cylinders. It still gets you around, right?

(and 5 sec a day is only a half minute a week)
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Old 15 January 2019, 09:36 AM   #30
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My CHNR ran a bit less than +2 straight from the coffin and continues to do so when resting the watch overnight with dial side up. When I rest the watch overnight on its side with the crown up it runs almost -2. With this I'm able to regulate the watch to almost 0.

I haven't observed how it runs when I rest the watch on its side with the crown down. In addition I only wind it when it doesn't run.

I suggest you observe for the next 6 months and if you find that it's not Superlative then you can take advantage of the warranty and have it regulated.
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