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doramas · 13 January 2020, 10:19 PM

I know that the Day-Date is all white gold and the Datejust is steel and the bezel fluted in white gold, and apart from that the Day-Date has the day of the week, but here comes my question. Is the difference between the two watches really €26,100?

I hope an interesting debate will come up.

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dmash · 13 January 2020, 10:22 PM

Bracelet is different too*

doramas · 13 January 2020, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dmash

Bracelet is different too*

Yes, I know, I know that one is president and the other one is jubilee, but the important thing is that one is white gold and the other one is steel. But is white gold worth more than 26100 euros compared to steel?

dmash · 13 January 2020, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by doramas

Yes, I know, I know that one is president and the other one is jubilee, but the important thing is that one is white gold and the other one is steel. But is white gold worth more than 26100 euros compared to steel?

There’s no definitive answer here, it’s your decision?

This is just like showing your wife a cubic zirconia 2ct diamond and an identical real diamond and asking ‘is it really worth the difference’? I actually lucked out as mine said no,

kenlperry · 13 January 2020, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dmash

There’s no definitive answer here, it’s your decision?

This is just like showing your wife a cubic zirconia 2ct diamond and an identical real diamond and asking ‘is it really worth the difference’? I actually lucked out as mine said no,

Ha! Great analogy...

When holding and observing both watches in person, and knowing that one is gold and the other is steel, I can see why Day-Date would cost more, for sure. But yep, to the average person they would look like basically the same watch on your wrist. That is the main reason I can't justify(in my own head) purchasing white gold over yellow gold when it comes to Rolex watches.

Gary Busey · 14 January 2020, 03:41 AM

18 carat gold. 75% purity
1400$/ounce...maybe they (Rolex) bot it at 1000$/ounce.

So whats the per ounce price on this extra gold? do the math

lets see... 30K give or take at 1400$ an ounce. thats 25-30 ounces.... around 600 grams
dont know how much this weights. im guessing 200 grams (@ 75% purity)

there is a sucker born every minute. has nothing to do with prestige. Movement is prestige, worksmanship is prestige, history is prestige. marking up gold 3-4x for no reason, thats nothing. Thats Rolex laughing.
of course, there are many who won't care.
but for all the expensive watches i have, i cannot fall for that. It goes against my grain.

The only difference between the 2 is scrap metal.

some just dont care. and thats fine.

beshannon · 13 January 2020, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by doramas

But is white gold worth more than 26100 euros compared to steel?

To whom?

schoolboy · 14 January 2020, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doramas

Yes, I know, I know that one is president and the other one is jubilee, but the important thing is that one is white gold and the other one is steel. But is white gold worth more than 26100 euros compared to steel?

I don’t know why everybody is responding indirectly or whatever...

The answer is no. The white gold itself isn’t worth 26100 euros more than the same volume in steel.

So it’s more marketing and prestige that you pay for when you pay for the day date as compared to the Datejust.

More people can afford a Datejust than a DayDate

So people naturally want the DayDate more

That sort of thing

mountainjogger · 14 January 2020, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by schoolboy

I don’t know why everybody is responding indirectly or whatever...

The answer is no. The white gold itself isn’t worth 26100 euros more than the same volume in steel.

So it’s more marketing and prestige that you pay for when you pay for the day date as compared to the Datejust.

More people can afford a Datejust than a DayDate

So people naturally want the DayDate more

That sort of thing

Agree as far as scrap value. But then the value of the ss sub is not worth 9k more than the plastic in a Casio

doramas · 14 January 2020, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainjogger

Agree as far as scrap value. But then the value of the ss sub is not worth 9k more than the plastic in a Casio

It's not the same thing. Here we are talking about Rolex vs. Rolex and not Rolex vs Casio.

schoolboy · 14 January 2020, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainjogger

Agree as far as scrap value. But then the value of the ss sub is not worth 9k more than the plastic in a Casio

That’s true

Devildog · 14 January 2020, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doramas

Yes, I know, I know that one is president and the other one is jubilee, but the important thing is that one is white gold and the other one is steel. But is white gold worth more than 26100 euros compared to steel?

Objectively, no.

Subjectively, yes.

JSolution · 13 January 2020, 10:23 PM

You answered your own question?

mttb · 13 January 2020, 10:33 PM

It’s white gold, that’s what makes the difference

perception by someone else who only glances at your wrist ? Likely the same, unless they know the difference

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mountainjogger · 13 January 2020, 10:36 PM

Suggestion: ask whether the difference is "worth" the price.

JR16 · 13 January 2020, 10:37 PM

Yes?
Did you want to debate is the price difference worth it ? I mean you can ask that same question about any two watches with a big price difference. It’s up to the buyer to decide. Comparing these two watches is like comparing apples and oranges. Different metal, different complication/caliber, different bracelet.

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Token74 · 13 January 2020, 10:52 PM

If purely focussing on the individual differences with a binary mindset, no.

But, hold both watches, and it very quickly becomes apparent that one is a whole lot more watch than the other. So in my non-binary view, the answer is yes.

Now, ask me whether a Platinum Daytona is worth the premium over a White Golf Daytona, and I would struggle to justify that one!

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RyanO · 14 January 2020, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Token74

If purely focussing on the individual differences with a binary mindset, no.

But, hold both watches, and it very quickly becomes apparent that one is a whole lot more watch than the other. So in my non-binary view, the answer is yes.

Now, ask me whether a Platinum Daytona is worth the premium over a White Golf Daytona, and I would struggle to justify that one!

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I would have to agree, as that is certainly a difficult and thought provoking one

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vesnyder · 13 January 2020, 11:05 PM

I would take the Datejust given my current economic position, but if my bank balance was different I may choose the Day Date. The weight difference is significant - but tough to justify the price difference.

Verdi · 13 January 2020, 11:05 PM

Why buy a DD when you can buy a DJ

Why buy a DJ when you can buy an OP

Why buy a new OP when you can get pre-owned one

Why buy a Rolex when you can buy an Omega for less

Why buy an Omega when you can buy a Tissot

Why buy a watch when you can check the time on your mobile phone?

djgallo · 13 January 2020, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Verdi

Why buy a DD when you can buy a DJ

Why buy a DJ when you can buy an OP

Why buy a new OP when you can get pre-owned one

Why buy a Rolex when you can buy an Omega for less

Why buy an Omega when you can buy a Tissot

Why buy a watch when you can check the time on your mobile phone?

This sums it up perfectly.

Swiss Mad! · 14 January 2020, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Verdi

Why buy a DD when you can buy a DJ

Why buy a DJ when you can buy an OP

Why buy a new OP when you can get pre-owned one

Why buy a Rolex when you can buy an Omega for less

Why buy an Omega when you can buy a Tissot

Why buy a watch when you can check the time on your mobile phone?

Hey AD, cancel my DD order....

Hello, is that Apple customer services...

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nachopc · 14 January 2020, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Verdi

Why buy a DD when you can buy a DJ

Why buy a DJ when you can buy an OP

Why buy a new OP when you can get pre-owned one

Why buy a Rolex when you can buy an Omega for less

Why buy an Omega when you can buy a Tissot

Why buy a watch when you can check the time on your mobile phone?

This

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RTG · 13 January 2020, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by doramas

I know that the Day-Date is all white gold and the Datejust is steel and the bezel fluted in white gold, and apart from that the Day-Date has the day of the week, but here comes my question. Is the difference between the two watches really €26,100?

I hope an interesting debate will come up.

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With this logic how did you ever come to own any Rolex? Is a DateJust really worth €6,000 more than a Timex? Is a Submariner really worth €7000 more than a Seiko?

Honest question here. As someone who presumably spent thousands on an overpriced steel watch that happened to say Rolex. How can you not understand somebody else justifying spending much more on a similar watch in precious metals?

jinikari01 · 14 January 2020, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RTG

With this logic how did you ever come to own any Rolex? Is a DateJust really worth €6,000 more than a Timex? Is a Submariner really worth €7000 more than a Seiko?

Honest question here. As someone who presumably spent thousands on an overpriced steel watch that happened to say Rolex. How can you not understand somebody else justifying spending much more on a similar watch in precious metals?

Preach brotha.

Chester01 · 13 January 2020, 11:17 PM

Short answer no. But see it depends on how much money you have/make because that difference is relative to what you value and how much money you have/earn. See 26,000 pounds/dollars may be a lot to Some one making 100k per year, and not a big difference for someone earning 750k per year. But sure, the look is very similar. I also think a vintage white gold DD is not only a better value but looks cooler, in my opinion.

Tha Baron · 13 January 2020, 11:39 PM

If the white gold bothers you maybe you could paint it yellow so it looks like yellow gold... that should help differentiate

doramas · 14 January 2020, 12:13 AM

I am not saying that the price difference is not justified, it is simply a question to make a debate that can be interesting

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rmlovett1 · 14 January 2020, 12:22 AM

To probably 99% of the world .....there’s no difference. Is it worth the difference....? White gold vs SS is just personal choice. White gold is for the wearers enjoyment, I’ve always said. Like others have said...your phone can tell the time, day & date, just fine.

schoolboy · 14 January 2020, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Richris1

To probably 99% of the world .....there’s no difference. Is it worth the difference....? White gold vs SS is just personal choice. White gold is for the wearers enjoyment, I’ve always said. Like others have said...your phone can tell the time, day & date, just fine.

I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but our phones also have a power reserve indicator

13 January 2020, 10:19 PM	#1
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Is the difference between the two watches really €26,100? I know that the Day-Date is all white gold and the Datejust is steel and the bezel fluted in white gold, and apart from that the Day-Date has the day of the week, but here comes my question. Is the difference between the two watches really €26,100? I hope an interesting debate will come up. Enviado desde mi SM-G930F mediante Tapatalk

14 January 2020, 03:41 AM	#6
Gary Busey "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pothole Watch: Tudor Black Bay Posts: 890	18 carat gold. 75% purity 1400$/ounce...maybe they (Rolex) bot it at 1000$/ounce. So whats the per ounce price on this extra gold? do the math lets see... 30K give or take at 1400$ an ounce. thats 25-30 ounces.... around 600 grams dont know how much this weights. im guessing 200 grams (@ 75% purity) there is a sucker born every minute. has nothing to do with prestige. Movement is prestige, worksmanship is prestige, history is prestige. marking up gold 3-4x for no reason, thats nothing. Thats Rolex laughing. of course, there are many who won't care. but for all the expensive watches i have, i cannot fall for that. It goes against my grain. The only difference between the 2 is scrap metal. some just dont care. and thats fine. __________________ Tudor Black Bay Red Rose ETA Rolex 214270 Explorer 1 Tudor BB 41 Blue Dial Doxa Sub 200, SKX009 Aquastar Deepstar

13 January 2020, 10:36 PM	#15
mountainjogger 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: H Location: North Carolina Watch: M99230B-0008 Posts: 5,675	Suggestion: ask whether the difference is "worth" the price. __________________ The King of Cool.

13 January 2020, 10:52 PM	#17
Token74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Vince Location: England Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,744	If purely focussing on the individual differences with a binary mindset, no. But, hold both watches, and it very quickly becomes apparent that one is a whole lot more watch than the other. So in my non-binary view, the answer is yes. Now, ask me whether a Platinum Daytona is worth the premium over a White Golf Daytona, and I would struggle to justify that one! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Time is limited, make every second count. Patek Philippe Nautilus 5990 - AP Royal Oak 15300 - AP Royal Oak 15450 Blue - AP Royal Oak 15450 Silver - AP Royal Oak Offshore 26480 - Royal Oak Offshore 15710 - Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 - Rolex Daytona 116519 - Rolex GMT 126710 BLRO - Omega Speedmaster Reduced - JLC Reverso GMT Moonphase - TAG Microtimer - Dent Pocket Watch - JLC Atmos Phases de lune

13 January 2020, 11:05 PM	#20
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	Why buy a DD when you can buy a DJ Why buy a DJ when you can buy an OP Why buy a new OP when you can get pre-owned one Why buy a Rolex when you can buy an Omega for less Why buy an Omega when you can buy a Tissot Why buy a watch when you can check the time on your mobile phone? __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

13 January 2020, 10:22 PM	#2
dmash "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA <> BKK Posts: 6,162	Bracelet is different too*

13 January 2020, 10:23 PM	#13
JSolution "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Jay Location: England Watch: SkyD Posts: 6,398	You answered your own question?

13 January 2020, 10:33 PM	#14
mttb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: San Francisco Posts: 48	It’s white gold, that’s what makes the difference perception by someone else who only glances at your wrist ? Likely the same, unless they know the difference Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 January 2020, 10:37 PM	#16
JR16 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,272	Yes? Did you want to debate is the price difference worth it ? I mean you can ask that same question about any two watches with a big price difference. It’s up to the buyer to decide. Comparing these two watches is like comparing apples and oranges. Different metal, different complication/caliber, different bracelet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

13 January 2020, 11:05 PM	#19
vesnyder "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Vance Location: North Coast Watch: GMT II Posts: 1,585	I would take the Datejust given my current economic position, but if my bank balance was different I may choose the Day Date. The weight difference is significant - but tough to justify the price difference.

13 January 2020, 11:17 PM	#26
Chester01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: East Coast Watch: 16610 Posts: 4,933	Short answer no. But see it depends on how much money you have/make because that difference is relative to what you value and how much money you have/earn. See 26,000 pounds/dollars may be a lot to Some one making 100k per year, and not a big difference for someone earning 750k per year. But sure, the look is very similar. I also think a vintage white gold DD is not only a better value but looks cooler, in my opinion.

13 January 2020, 11:39 PM	#27
Tha Baron "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Middle West Posts: 1,083	If the white gold bothers you maybe you could paint it yellow so it looks like yellow gold... that should help differentiate

14 January 2020, 12:13 AM	#28
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	I am not saying that the price difference is not justified, it is simply a question to make a debate that can be interesting Enviado desde mi SM-G930F mediante Tapatalk

14 January 2020, 12:22 AM	#29
rmlovett1 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 23,678	To probably 99% of the world .....there’s no difference. Is it worth the difference....? White gold vs SS is just personal choice. White gold is for the wearers enjoyment, I’ve always said. Like others have said...your phone can tell the time, day & date, just fine.

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