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idk01 · 30 April 2009, 07:09 PM

Seller: scorpiofella (120)

Issue - Thought this one looked a bit on the fake side, cyclops date mag is way off unless it is an acrylic crystal making it a 16030 series, opinions? just hard to tell with no information at all.

I have here a genuine Rolex Oyster Perpetual diamond dial, black faced watch with the 18k and stainless band recently aquired at a high end estate sale...there is no paperwork or box. Please ask all questions prior to bidding...I welcome all inquiries...Thank you! Shipping will be 20.00 and include delivery confirmation and insurance.... I will ship overseas at a rate of $35.00 and will only accept paypal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MENS-OYSTER-PERP...3%3A2|294%3A50

TimeToGo · 30 April 2009, 07:12 PM

The pictures are baaad...Wish they were clearer!

But I think this one looks ok.

diablojota · 30 April 2009, 07:19 PM

It does appear to have the acrylic crystal, but even so, the magnification just looks bad. I'm saying it's a fake.

idk01 · 30 April 2009, 07:26 PM

Actually this case would have holes is it was an early 16233/16030 and the strap has the pin access holes too, and looks a bit to shiny on the outer edge of the case back, i though they were always brushed stainless, with the green sticker there thats taken a polish job out of the equation.

diablojota · 30 April 2009, 07:43 PM

Good point Dave, that would have the lugholes. Fake. Send it to the trash.

idk01 · 30 April 2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablojota

Good point Dave, that would have the lugholes. Fake. Send it to the trash.

Lugholes thats the word I was looking for, I have to get more sleeze woopse I mean sleep

diablojota · 30 April 2009, 07:54 PM

I hear ya. For some reason my sleep schedule is all screwy.

TimeToGo · 30 April 2009, 09:53 PM

According to the listing, this is a 2000+ model.

idk01 · 1 May 2009, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

According to the listing, this is a 2000+ model.

Hmmm what ya think?

TimeToGo · 1 May 2009, 02:58 AM

If you look at his feedback, he recently sold a Rolex to a known purchaser on Ebay. There is a new Q&A where the seller says the watch was purchased in 2005 but he does not know the model. Buying a watch in 2005, really does not say much either!

I wish the pictures were clearer, I see the concern about the magnification and can not make out the markings on the bracelet.

Terry Newton · 1 May 2009, 04:45 AM

http://www.watchmaker9.tv/wallpaper/...J16233PR07.jpg
Look at the clasp crown where it looks like it is a circle instead of an oval.

Terry Newton

idk01 · 1 May 2009, 04:53 AM

Good point Terry, the coronet on the listing does look like a perfect O with the depth at the bottom:

TimeToGo · 1 May 2009, 07:01 AM

I can't tell from that picture, but I will take your word for it!!!

tudorman8276 · 1 May 2009, 08:25 AM

...FAKERoooo...

Stan.

Terry Newton · 1 May 2009, 01:59 PM

Now a goner.

Terry Newton

30 April 2009, 07:09 PM	#1
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Men's oyster perpetual rolex w/date black face Seller: scorpiofella (120) Issue - Thought this one looked a bit on the fake side, cyclops date mag is way off unless it is an acrylic crystal making it a 16030 series, opinions? just hard to tell with no information at all. I have here a genuine Rolex Oyster Perpetual diamond dial, black faced watch with the 18k and stainless band recently aquired at a high end estate sale...there is no paperwork or box. Please ask all questions prior to bidding...I welcome all inquiries...Thank you! Shipping will be 20.00 and include delivery confirmation and insurance.... I will ship overseas at a rate of $35.00 and will only accept paypal. http://cgi.ebay.com/MENS-OYSTER-PERP...3%3A2\|294%3A50 __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

30 April 2009, 07:19 PM	#3
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	It does appear to have the acrylic crystal, but even so, the magnification just looks bad. I'm saying it's a fake. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

30 April 2009, 07:26 PM	#4
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Actually this case would have holes is it was an early 16233/16030 and the strap has the pin access holes too, and looks a bit to shiny on the outer edge of the case back, i though they were always brushed stainless, with the green sticker there thats taken a polish job out of the equation. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

30 April 2009, 07:43 PM	#5
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	Good point Dave, that would have the lugholes. Fake. Send it to the trash. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

30 April 2009, 07:54 PM	#7
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	I hear ya. For some reason my sleep schedule is all screwy. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

30 April 2009, 07:12 PM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,717	The pictures are baaad...Wish they were clearer! But I think this one looks ok.

30 April 2009, 09:53 PM	#8
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,717	According to the listing, this is a 2000+ model.

1 May 2009, 02:58 AM	#10
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,717	If you look at his feedback, he recently sold a Rolex to a known purchaser on Ebay. There is a new Q&A where the seller says the watch was purchased in 2005 but he does not know the model. Buying a watch in 2005, really does not say much either! I wish the pictures were clearer, I see the concern about the magnification and can not make out the markings on the bracelet.

1 May 2009, 04:45 AM	#11
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	http://www.watchmaker9.tv/wallpaper/...J16233PR07.jpg Look at the clasp crown where it looks like it is a circle instead of an oval. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

1 May 2009, 07:01 AM	#13
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,717	I can't tell from that picture, but I will take your word for it!!!

1 May 2009, 08:25 AM	#14
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...look at the endpieces also... ...FAKERoooo... Stan.

1 May 2009, 01:59 PM	#15
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Now a goner. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

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