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patrick_b · 17 May 2008, 05:13 AM

I find this question posed from time to time and recently tried to verbalize the answer to the questions, "why Rolex," and even, "why mechanical watches?"

I love the fact that the watch on my wrist doesn't need electricity or a microchip or a battery. I treasure that my wristwatch was very likely assembled by hand and hundreds (maybe thousands) of small parts; gears, cogs and springs work in concert every second of every day...with precision that matches or (in some cases) exceeds its battery powered cousins.

As designers and engineers strive to make products smaller and lighter these days, the heft of a steel mechanical wristwatch conveys quality. I find it confidence inspiring that the logo on the dial stands for hundreds of years of mechanical and design innovation. In an era where corporate mergers are commonplace, the Rolex Coronet stands alone, atop a heap of companies specializing in 'luxury goods'...a private entity that continues to attract enthusiasts and the general public alike. While it's aesthetics that drew me to fine watches, it's their craftsmanship that kept me coming back.

Unlike my cell phone, flat screen TV and laptop, mechanical wristwatches have remained virtually unchanged for generations, a mainspring, escapement, case, dial and hands. The term 'obsolete' doesn't enter into the equation. The average person would be hard pressed to differentiate between a 2008 Rolex GMT and one from 1968. My mechanical watches, both modern and vintage continue to work with the same precision as the day they left the factory. If history is an accurate measure, these manufacturers will continue to service them, keeping them running for generations to come. In a day where many product's effective life cycle is measured in months, mechanical timepieces can increase in intrinsic value over the years.

It's only handcrafted products that share this trait...and sadly, many can't point to even one item made by hand that they use daily. From the shoes on which we walk to the cars we drive, there are very few handcrafted items I use daily. I'm pleased to count my wristwatch as one of the remaining few.

Care to share your thoughts on the matter?

KLM · 17 May 2008, 05:21 AM

Awesome post Patrick! I must agree 100%

f16570 · 17 May 2008, 06:00 AM

Thank you for posting this says it all in a better way than I ever could. You are so right in what you say

The best post on TRF lately, no should I, what do you think, will it be safe to wear, or the dreaded price increase....................
Thank you for re focusing the mind on why I bought this watch in the first place.

JJ Irani · 17 May 2008, 06:03 AM

Well thought out post, Patrick. You've just about said it all.....nothing more to add, except to say just one thing:

Want a watch with a heart and a soul? Then buy one with a lot of moving parts inside it!!

patrick_b · 17 May 2008, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KLM

Awesome post Patrick! I must agree 100%

Quote:

Originally Posted by f16570

Thank you for posting this says it all in a better way than I ever could. You are so right in what you say

The best post on TRF lately, no should I, what do you think, will it be safe to wear, or the dreaded price increase....................
Thank you for re focusing the mind on why I bought this watch in the first place.

Thanks guys!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Well thought out post, Patrick. You've just about said it all.....nothing more to add, except to say just one thing:

Want a watch with a heart and a soul? Then buy one with a lot of moving parts inside it!!

Very well said, JJ. I like that one a lot.

GMTJOHNNY · 17 May 2008, 06:36 AM

As a scientist, I remember hearing that "lasers would replace knives" a long time ago. Now lasers are used to sharpen knives.

Same for computers to replace clocks- now they are used to assist in the manufacture them!

Interesting how the "new" technology once thought to replace the
"old standard" is actually used to move the old standard further. I love human creativity! Amazing!

Mechanical keeps the human spirit within the watch, a digi-watch is [to me] cold and not personal- too sterile.

patrick_b · 17 May 2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GMTJOHNNY

As a scientist, I remember hearing that "lasers would replace knives" a long time ago. Now lasers are used to sharpen knives.

Same for computers to replace clocks- now they are used to assist in the manufacture them!

Interesting how the "new" technology once thought to replace the
"old standard" is actually used to move the old standard further. I love human creativity! Amazing!

Mechanical keeps the human spirit within the watch, a digi-watch is [to me] cold and not personal- too sterile.

Very interesting. And certainly something I hadn't even considered. Very well put.

DS/B MINI S · 17 May 2008, 08:22 AM

I guess my love of watches stems from the fact that everything we do revolves around time. The mechanical aspect of automatic and hand wound watches fascinates me. The tolerances needed to make the gears, levers, bridges, etc perform are almost magic.

Of course, I also enjoy and take pride in the fact that I can own something that is considered 'world class.' Like custom knives, it feels good to use something that can be considered the very best.

Chris B · 17 May 2008, 06:36 AM

Great post Patrick, spot-on & couldn't add anything to the replies

bsodmike · 17 May 2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by patrick_b

It's only handcrafted products that share this trait...and sadly, many can't point to even one item made by hand that they use daily. From the shoes on which we walk to the cars we drive, there are very few handcrafted items I use daily. I'm pleased to count my wristwatch as one of the remaining few.

Off the top of my head, three items I use daily that are handcrafted

vjb.knife · 17 May 2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by patrick_b

If history is an accurate measure, these manufacturers will continue to service them, keeping them running for generations to come. In a day where many product's effective life cycle is measured in months, mechanical timepieces can increase in intrinsic value over the years.

I liked your post and agree with almost all of it. I am not trying to throw a monkey wrench into the good thoughts but I just wish this part of your post was entirely true of Rolex. Unfortunately Rolex has stopped servicing quite a few of the older models.

BiG JeEzY · 17 May 2008, 10:45 AM

Very well said Patrick, I dont know what else to say, your thread is incredible. Very brilliant indeed. I could not agree with you more.

Only question I have is, which Rolex model started it all for you when it comes to your love for the brand?

Rawhyde · 17 May 2008, 11:03 AM

Great post! I haven't had any luck with electronic watches, and not much with non-Rolex mechanical watches either. I stay with whatever works, and Rolexes work!

Rawhyde

jlwc1974 · 17 May 2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by patrick_b

I find this question posed from time to time and recently tried to verbalize the answer to the questions, "why Rolex," and even, "why mechanical watches?"

It's only handcrafted products that share this trait...and sadly, many can't point to even one item made by hand that they use daily. From the shoes on which we walk to the cars we drive, there are very few handcrafted items I use daily. I'm pleased to count my wristwatch as one of the remaining few.

i dont think Rolex watches are hand crafted

marshallr47 · 17 May 2008, 06:39 PM

Patrick, I totally agree with you. Nothing beats a wonderful timepiece. Well said.

Trurolexer · 17 May 2008, 10:12 PM

Well said, Patrick!!!

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koevoet · 17 May 2008, 11:19 PM

Well said,one of the best posts I have read,and as somone else has mentioned, in this disposable culture that we are forced to live in it re-focuses the mind to what quality and craftsmanship really mean. Spot on Old Bean!

patrick_b · 18 May 2008, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Well said, Patrick!!!

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Originally Posted by marshallr47

Patrick, I totally agree with you. Nothing beats a wonderful timepiece. Well said.

Thanks for the feedback guys!

Quote:

Originally Posted by koevoet

Well said,one of the best posts I have read,and as somone else has mentioned, in this disposable culture that we are forced to live in it re-focuses the mind to what quality and craftsmanship really mean. Spot on Old Bean!

Well said koevoet. A good re-focus can't hurt at all!

Portzed · 18 May 2008, 06:08 AM

Patrick, the trick that 'did it' for me (in terms of appreciating a mechanical movement) was when I got my 1st SD in '90...I lived in awe of Rolex in those days...still do!!!.

I then had a first born in '95 and as a baby she would 'lull' off to sleep listening to the 'ning a ning a ning a'
that the movement made.

These days..she's 12 she still, (when on an adolescent downer ) asks to have my SD to go to bed with.

It gets her off to sleep in a rocket!

patrick_b · 20 May 2008, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Portzed

Patrick, the trick that 'did it' for me (in terms of appreciating a mechanical movement) was when I got my 1st SD in '90...I lived in awe of Rolex in those days...still do!!!.

I then had a first born in '95 and as a baby she would 'lull' off to sleep listening to the 'ning a ning a ning a'
that the movement made.

These days..she's 12 she still, (when on an adolescent downer ) asks to have my SD to go to bed with.

It gets her off to sleep in a rocket!

That's very heartwarming, thanks for sharing.

DSJ · 19 May 2008, 11:49 AM

Well said, Patrick!

DrSheily · 20 May 2008, 02:43 AM

Right on!

Haroldglen · 20 May 2008, 01:53 PM

A great post. Very well said. You expressed the views of all of us who have chosen to own and wear a Rolex. Every time I look at my SS DJ I admire it for being such a precision instrument and a work of art. Many people have no appreciation for this and they would not recognize a Rolex from a Seiko. However, we who are members of this forum share this common bond of appreciation for these beautiful instruments, which we can someday hand down to our children.

gerry100 · 23 August 2022, 10:18 AM

Rolexes may stop but they never die

77T · 23 August 2022, 11:35 AM

This is one time I appreciate a 14y.o. post being resurrected…

The OP, plus some well respected members shared some reassuring thoughts in this crazy time we find ourselves in currently.

Before Rolex became trade bait, investment voodoo, and impulsively sought after, we marveled at their engineering and the intrinsic value of a handmade mechanical timepiece.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Easy Rhino · 12 October 2022, 06:19 AM

Add this to it. Versus a cheap electronic disposable appliance watch that you won't remember having within a few years after dropping in the trash bin, a Rolex on your wrist reminds one of the striving for quality over cheap utility.

The striving for quality is what separates us.

One doesn't need a fine car to reach a designation nor a fine wine or whisky/whiskey or cigar to enjoy a fine moment, nor a fine house to keep out of the weather.

But it surely helps.

INC · 12 October 2022, 07:04 AM

While I completly agree with OP, I still wish to add my opinion to this thread.

I've had mechanical Rolexes but never really enjoyed them. I was tired of having to move them or else they would stop and in this case I had to set the day and time manually. This was the reason why I switched to quartz Rolexes, which ones I really like, because I can put on any of them at any time. There is no need to set the time/date, there is no need to worry about them. For me, these kind of precision and simplicity are the real features. Probably this is a different kind of mentality, as I think that these Rolexes are not cheap disposable applianes. :)

Rebel · 12 October 2022, 07:41 AM

I've been a WIS all my life. Sure, Casio watches adorn my wrist in the right occasion.....Rolex and automatics are just part of being a WIS (for me).

Cliffnopus · 23 December 2022, 11:20 AM

Great post Patrick, right on point.

17 May 2008, 05:13 AM	#1
patrick_b "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Massachusetts, US Posts: 48	Why mechanical watches? Why Rolex? I find this question posed from time to time and recently tried to verbalize the answer to the questions, "why Rolex," and even, "why mechanical watches?" I love the fact that the watch on my wrist doesn't need electricity or a microchip or a battery. I treasure that my wristwatch was very likely assembled by hand and hundreds (maybe thousands) of small parts; gears, cogs and springs work in concert every second of every day...with precision that matches or (in some cases) exceeds its battery powered cousins. As designers and engineers strive to make products smaller and lighter these days, the heft of a steel mechanical wristwatch conveys quality. I find it confidence inspiring that the logo on the dial stands for hundreds of years of mechanical and design innovation. In an era where corporate mergers are commonplace, the Rolex Coronet stands alone, atop a heap of companies specializing in 'luxury goods'...a private entity that continues to attract enthusiasts and the general public alike. While it's aesthetics that drew me to fine watches, it's their craftsmanship that kept me coming back. Unlike my cell phone, flat screen TV and laptop, mechanical wristwatches have remained virtually unchanged for generations, a mainspring, escapement, case, dial and hands. The term 'obsolete' doesn't enter into the equation. The average person would be hard pressed to differentiate between a 2008 Rolex GMT and one from 1968. My mechanical watches, both modern and vintage continue to work with the same precision as the day they left the factory. If history is an accurate measure, these manufacturers will continue to service them, keeping them running for generations to come. In a day where many product's effective life cycle is measured in months, mechanical timepieces can increase in intrinsic value over the years. It's only handcrafted products that share this trait...and sadly, many can't point to even one item made by hand that they use daily. From the shoes on which we walk to the cars we drive, there are very few handcrafted items I use daily. I'm pleased to count my wristwatch as one of the remaining few. Care to share your thoughts on the matter?

17 May 2008, 06:00 AM	#3
f16570 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: F Location: Scotland Watch: Exp II White Face Posts: 4,272	Thank you for posting this says it all in a better way than I ever could. You are so right in what you say The best post on TRF lately, no should I, what do you think, will it be safe to wear, or the dreaded price increase.................... Thank you for re focusing the mind on why I bought this watch in the first place. __________________ Why have what's new when you have what's best. f

17 May 2008, 06:03 AM	#4
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Well thought out post, Patrick. You've just about said it all.....nothing more to add, except to say just one thing: Want a watch with a heart and a soul? Then buy one with a lot of moving parts inside it!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

17 May 2008, 06:36 AM	#6
GMTJOHNNY "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: LONG ISLAND, NY Watch: 2007 DAY DATE 18KT Posts: 1,378	As a scientist, I remember hearing that "lasers would replace knives" a long time ago. Now lasers are used to sharpen knives. Same for computers to replace clocks- now they are used to assist in the manufacture them! Interesting how the "new" technology once thought to replace the "old standard" is actually used to move the old standard further. I love human creativity! Amazing! Mechanical keeps the human spirit within the watch, a digi-watch is [to me] cold and not personal- too sterile. __________________ ROLEX DAY DATE 118238 (2007) ROLEX DAY DATE 18238 (1997) ROLEX GMT 16750 PEPSI (1987) ROLEX AIR KING 14000 (1991) ROLEX GMTIIC TT 116713LN (2008)

17 May 2008, 08:22 AM	#8
DS/B MINI S "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Charlotte NC Watch: SD & Exp II Posts: 961	I guess my love of watches stems from the fact that everything we do revolves around time. The mechanical aspect of automatic and hand wound watches fascinates me. The tolerances needed to make the gears, levers, bridges, etc perform are almost magic. Of course, I also enjoy and take pride in the fact that I can own something that is considered 'world class.' Like custom knives, it feels good to use something that can be considered the very best. __________________ 16600 Sea-Dweller 16570 Explorer II (White Dial)

17 May 2008, 05:21 AM	#2
KLM Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas Watch: 14060M Posts: 172	Awesome post Patrick! I must agree 100%

17 May 2008, 06:36 AM	#9
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631	Great post Patrick, spot-on & couldn't add anything to the replies

17 May 2008, 10:45 AM	#12
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,351	Very well said Patrick, I dont know what else to say, your thread is incredible. Very brilliant indeed. I could not agree with you more. Only question I have is, which Rolex model started it all for you when it comes to your love for the brand? __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

17 May 2008, 11:03 AM	#13
Rawhyde Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Craig Location: NW Georgia Watch: Blue Sub+Tud Chron Posts: 834	Great post! I haven't had any luck with electronic watches, and not much with non-Rolex mechanical watches either. I stay with whatever works, and Rolexes work! Rawhyde

17 May 2008, 06:39 PM	#15
marshallr47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Ron Location: Alabama Watch: Daytona,TT Sub,GMT Posts: 4,673	Patrick, I totally agree with you. Nothing beats a wonderful timepiece. Well said. __________________ Ron

17 May 2008, 10:12 PM	#16
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Well said, Patrick!!!

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17 May 2008, 11:19 PM	#18
koevoet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 81	Well said,one of the best posts I have read,and as somone else has mentioned, in this disposable culture that we are forced to live in it re-focuses the mind to what quality and craftsmanship really mean. Spot on Old Bean! __________________ Never argue with a fool,he will only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience!

18 May 2008, 06:08 AM	#20
Portzed "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Bryden Location: Lincolnshire - UK Watch: My 1st 60's Timex Posts: 435	Patrick, the trick that 'did it' for me (in terms of appreciating a mechanical movement) was when I got my 1st SD in '90...I lived in awe of Rolex in those days...still do!!!. I then had a first born in '95 and as a baby she would 'lull' off to sleep listening to the 'ning a ning a ning a' that the movement made. These days..she's 12 she still, (when on an adolescent downer ) asks to have my SD to go to bed with. It gets her off to sleep in a rocket!

19 May 2008, 11:49 AM	#22
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	Well said, Patrick! __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

20 May 2008, 02:43 AM	#23
DrSheily "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 37	Right on!

20 May 2008, 01:53 PM	#24
Haroldglen "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Harold Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex Datejust Posts: 75	A great post. Very well said. You expressed the views of all of us who have chosen to own and wear a Rolex. Every time I look at my SS DJ I admire it for being such a precision instrument and a work of art. Many people have no appreciation for this and they would not recognize a Rolex from a Seiko. However, we who are members of this forum share this common bond of appreciation for these beautiful instruments, which we can someday hand down to our children.

23 August 2022, 10:18 AM	#25
gerry100 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: NY Posts: 752	Rolexes may stop but they never die

23 August 2022, 11:35 AM	#26
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 41,953	Why mechanical watches? Why Rolex? This is one time I appreciate a 14y.o. post being resurrected… The OP, plus some well respected members shared some reassuring thoughts in this crazy time we find ourselves in currently. Before Rolex became trade bait, investment voodoo, and impulsively sought after, we marveled at their engineering and the intrinsic value of a handmade mechanical timepiece. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

12 October 2022, 06:19 AM	#27
Easy Rhino "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Kevin Location: Now Tennessee Watch: 2-Line Sub & DJ41 Posts: 413	Add this to it. Versus a cheap electronic disposable appliance watch that you won't remember having within a few years after dropping in the trash bin, a Rolex on your wrist reminds one of the striving for quality over cheap utility. The striving for quality is what separates us. One doesn't need a fine car to reach a designation nor a fine wine or whisky/whiskey or cigar to enjoy a fine moment, nor a fine house to keep out of the weather. But it surely helps.

12 October 2022, 07:04 AM	#28
INC 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Budapest, HU Watch: 17000B, B+W Posts: 2,363	While I completly agree with OP, I still wish to add my opinion to this thread. I've had mechanical Rolexes but never really enjoyed them. I was tired of having to move them or else they would stop and in this case I had to set the day and time manually. This was the reason why I switched to quartz Rolexes, which ones I really like, because I can put on any of them at any time. There is no need to set the time/date, there is no need to worry about them. For me, these kind of precision and simplicity are the real features. Probably this is a different kind of mentality, as I think that these Rolexes are not cheap disposable applianes. :)

12 October 2022, 07:41 AM	#29
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,241	I've been a WIS all my life. Sure, Casio watches adorn my wrist in the right occasion.....Rolex and automatics are just part of being a WIS (for me). __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

23 December 2022, 11:20 AM	#30
Cliffnopus "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Real Name: Clifford Location: Foxboro, MA Watch: Rolex 126621 Yacht Posts: 196	Great post Patrick, right on point.

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