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titaniumballs · 24 November 2009, 04:16 AM

Are you interested in ROLEX creating a PVD line for their entire sport model range?

BASSETHOUNDS · 24 November 2009, 04:19 AM

Let Rolex decide that and present us the first one.

padi56 · 24 November 2009, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titaniumballs

Are you interested in ROLEX creating a PVD line for their entire sport model range?

Short answer no.

The GMT Master · 24 November 2009, 04:25 AM

Definitely not. PVD is a fad - Rolex doesn't do fads.

level · 24 November 2009, 04:36 AM

Seriously hilarious.

JJ Irani · 24 November 2009, 04:44 AM

Not serious, nor hilarious - bloody atrocious!!!

wantonebad · 27 November 2009, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Definitely not. PVD is a fad - Rolex doesn't do fads.

yeah, like big watches/super cases?!?!

The GMT Master · 27 November 2009, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wantonebad

yeah, like big watches/super cases?!?!

Even then, Rolex haven't really gone down the big watch route - with Rolex, it's evolution over revolution, and I think PVD would be too big of a step for them to take

Eli · 27 November 2009, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wantonebad

yeah, like big watches/super cases?!?!

LOL I concur.

Anyways, I would buy a PVD or Diamond coated Rolex if it's done by Rolex themselves.

smallcandle · 24 November 2009, 04:46 AM

Absolutey not!

moviefreak · 24 November 2009, 04:46 AM

A PVD Rolex is not accepted in Rolex Heaven when it dies....

BASSETHOUNDS · 24 November 2009, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by moviefreak

A PVD Rolex is not accepted in Rolex Heaven when it dies....

I was under the impression that a Rolex never dies , I lives for ever !!!

BarkMaster · 24 November 2009, 05:17 AM

AWATCH · 24 November 2009, 05:24 AM

not

OrchidDR · 24 November 2009, 05:22 AM

For those of us NOT familiar with PVD here is an excerpt from "The Watch Report":

One method that can be used to change the surface properties of a material is called Physical Vapor Deposition, or PVD (you'll also see it labeled as Ion Plating, or IP, which is a variant on PVD). The PVD process involves placing the item to be coated in an inert (non-reactive) atmosphere, heating it up to 400° C or so (depending on the process), and basically spraying it with the molecules that you want to coat it with. That's the general process, however there are a lot of subtle variations like using charged ions for the ion plated variation. PVD has been around since 1838 and is heavily used in semiconductor manufacturing, automobiles, and many other places including, or course, watches.

PVD results in a coating up to a micron or so thick that's tightly bonded to the base material. It won't flake off, as the coating is interpenetrated with the underlying material which is what makes it different from paint, powder coats, or anodizing. If you hit it with sufficient force, however, you can go through the PVD and into the material below, and since it's still a coating, polishing to remove scratches is not recommended.

spuds · 24 November 2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrchidDR

For those of us NOT familiar with PVD here is an excerpt from "The Watch Report":

One method that can be used to change the surface properties of a material is called Physical Vapor Deposition, or PVD (you'll also see it labeled as Ion Plating, or IP, which is a variant on PVD). The PVD process involves placing the item to be coated in an inert (non-reactive) atmosphere, heating it up to 400° C or so (depending on the process), and basically spraying it with the molecules that you want to coat it with. That's the general process, however there are a lot of subtle variations like using charged ions for the ion plated variation. PVD has been around since 1838 and is heavily used in semiconductor manufacturing, automobiles, and many other places including, or course, watches.

PVD results in a coating up to a micron or so thick that's tightly bonded to the base material. It won't flake off, as the coating is interpenetrated with the underlying material which is what makes it different from paint, powder coats, or anodizing. If you hit it with sufficient force, however, you can go through the PVD and into the material below, and since it's still a coating, polishing to remove scratches is not recommended.

well i'm glad someone explained it!

rajurama · 24 November 2009, 05:24 AM

ewww

limbo · 24 November 2009, 05:25 AM

Not something I'm looking for. However, if Rolex made them, you can be sure that people will buy them.

esm · 24 November 2009, 05:25 AM

i wouldnt mind one to be honest.....

probably a PVD YM

timetravel125 · 24 November 2009, 05:33 AM

PVD, no. Titanium, yes.

JJ Irani · 24 November 2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by esm

i wouldnt mind one to be honest.....

probably a PVD YM

Bullyterrier · 24 November 2009, 05:37 AM

I suppose a PVD submariner is better than a gold or tt one. Would be more useful for military issue as well.

SDDS · 24 November 2009, 06:29 AM

nope

jameshe · 24 November 2009, 07:29 AM

I would sooner throw my classic SeaDweller under the wheels of a bus and run to the hills dressed in only a loin cloth and live off wild berries for the rest of my life!

onkyo · 24 November 2009, 07:32 AM

Short answer is no!

BUT I do really like the black Milgauss in PVD.... looks stunning.

carlhaluss · 24 November 2009, 12:57 PM

Absolutely not. And if Rolex even thought of doing such a thing, I'm sure they would do a DLC (Diamond Like Coating), like Breitling did with the Avenger Skyland Blacksteel and the Super Avenger Blacksteel. Possibly the nicest of such watches I have seen. As a matter of fact, I did get the SA Blacksteel, a limited edition of 2000. HOWEVER, as tough as DLC coating is, I did give it a bad ding at work, right on the edge of the bezel, and it went right through to the bare metal. The only way to fix it, would have been to get a totally new bezel, at about $600. Fortunately, the ding was small enough that you couldn't notice it unless you have perfect eyesight, or with a magnifying glass. That being said, it still spoilt the whole "blackened" thing for me, and I was fortunate enough to sell it at a very good price, and to someone who just loves the watch.
I am sure this is why Rolex will not do a PVC watch. I have also seen PVC coated watches, where the coating has started to rub off, after about 5 years, and the metal is showing. A Rolex can last for decades and still look great, but I can guarantee it will not look great with such a coating!
Anyway, that is my 2 cents worth on the subject. Although some of those watche look fantastic, I am sure we will not be seeing it on a Rolex.
Cheers,
Carl

Omega_Precision · 24 November 2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlhaluss

Absolutely not. And if Rolex even thought of doing such a thing, I'm sure they would do a DLC (Diamond Like Coating), like Breitling did with the Avenger Skyland Blacksteel and the Super Avenger Blacksteel. Possibly the nicest of such watches I have seen. As a matter of fact, I did get the SA Blacksteel, a limited edition of 2000. HOWEVER, as tough as DLC coating is, I did give it a bad ding at work, right on the edge of the bezel, and it went right through to the bare metal. The only way to fix it, would have been to get a totally new bezel, at about $600. Fortunately, the ding was small enough that you couldn't notice it unless you have perfect eyesight, or with a magnifying glass. That being said, it still spoilt the whole "blackened" thing for me, and I was fortunate enough to sell it at a very good price, and to someone who just loves the watch.
I am sure this is why Rolex will not do a PVC watch. I have also seen PVC coated watches, where the coating has started to rub off, after about 5 years, and the metal is showing. A Rolex can last for decades and still look great, but I can guarantee it will not look great with such a coating!
Anyway, that is my 2 cents worth on the subject. Although some of those watche look fantastic, I am sure we will not be seeing it on a Rolex.
Cheers,
Carl

That's is what I mean Carl, you explained it perfectly. My knife has started to wear and you can definitely see metal.

I wonder how is Gary's watch on the bottom side....there must be scratches on the clasp.

carlhaluss · 24 November 2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

That's is what I mean Carl, you explained it perfectly. My knife has started to wear and you can definitely see metal.

I wonder how is Gary's watch on the bottom side....there must be scratches on the clasp.

The clasp would be the worst spot for scratches. Also, I didn't mention, but it is not possible to repair dings and scratches. The layer of coating is so thin, that to try and "polish" it, would only result in going through to bare metal. I can't remember how they measure the thickness, of course when they advertise it, it sounds phenomenal, but in fact it is extremely thin.
I think that Panerai does a case with Black Ceramic, though, but I have never heard any negative remarks about it. I know the ceramic Rolex bezels are very tough, but I imagine the problem there would be that they could shatter, if the impact on them was strong enough.
Cheers,
Carl

Omega_Precision · 24 November 2009, 08:15 AM

Rolex won't produce one.

They are more like trend setters than following the trend.

snow_rocks · 24 November 2009, 08:24 AM

yes

24 November 2009, 04:16 AM	#1
titaniumballs Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: ed Location: philippines Watch: COSMOGRAPH SS Posts: 33	A ROLEX PVD? serious or hilarious? Are you interested in ROLEX creating a PVD line for their entire sport model range?

24 November 2009, 04:44 AM	#6
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,317	Not serious, nor hilarious - bloody atrocious!!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

24 November 2009, 04:46 AM	#11
moviefreak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in my house... Posts: 5,524	A PVD Rolex is not accepted in Rolex Heaven when it dies.... __________________ Cheers, Eduardo Be a WIS not a WUSS... and remove all the stickers..

24 November 2009, 05:17 AM	#13
BarkMaster "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Watch: 18078 YG DD Posts: 7,962	__________________ BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

24 November 2009, 05:24 AM	#14
AWATCH "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: al Location: GEORGIA Watch: Explorer II Posts: 1,759	not __________________ Al

24 November 2009, 04:19 AM	#2
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Let Rolex decide that and present us the first one.

24 November 2009, 04:25 AM	#4
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,151	Definitely not. PVD is a fad - Rolex doesn't do fads.

24 November 2009, 04:36 AM	#5
level Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: U.S. Posts: 296	Seriously hilarious.

24 November 2009, 04:46 AM	#10
smallcandle "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Kansas Watch: 16610, Omega PO Posts: 1,898	Absolutey not!

24 November 2009, 05:22 AM	#15
OrchidDR "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: Tampa, FL, USA Watch: TT GMT II Posts: 1,321	For those of us NOT familiar with PVD here is an excerpt from "The Watch Report": One method that can be used to change the surface properties of a material is called Physical Vapor Deposition, or PVD (you'll also see it labeled as Ion Plating, or IP, which is a variant on PVD). The PVD process involves placing the item to be coated in an inert (non-reactive) atmosphere, heating it up to 400° C or so (depending on the process), and basically spraying it with the molecules that you want to coat it with. That's the general process, however there are a lot of subtle variations like using charged ions for the ion plated variation. PVD has been around since 1838 and is heavily used in semiconductor manufacturing, automobiles, and many other places including, or course, watches. PVD results in a coating up to a micron or so thick that's tightly bonded to the base material. It won't flake off, as the coating is interpenetrated with the underlying material which is what makes it different from paint, powder coats, or anodizing. If you hit it with sufficient force, however, you can go through the PVD and into the material below, and since it's still a coating, polishing to remove scratches is not recommended.

24 November 2009, 05:24 AM	#17
rajurama "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: Wakanda Watch: amacallit Posts: 2,128	ewww __________________ रोलेक्स

24 November 2009, 05:25 AM	#18
limbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,624	Not something I'm looking for. However, if Rolex made them, you can be sure that people will buy them.

24 November 2009, 05:25 AM	#19
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	i wouldnt mind one to be honest..... probably a PVD YM

24 November 2009, 05:33 AM	#20
timetravel125 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Louie Location: California Watch: Rolex Posts: 644	PVD, no. Titanium, yes.

24 November 2009, 05:37 AM	#22
Bullyterrier "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: . Posts: 1,343	I suppose a PVD submariner is better than a gold or tt one. Would be more useful for military issue as well. __________________ So Mote it be.

24 November 2009, 06:29 AM	#23
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	nope __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

24 November 2009, 07:29 AM	#24
jameshe "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: AP ROC, SkyDweller Posts: 812	I would sooner throw my classic SeaDweller under the wheels of a bus and run to the hills dressed in only a loin cloth and live off wild berries for the rest of my life!

24 November 2009, 07:32 AM	#25
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Short answer is no! BUT I do really like the black Milgauss in PVD.... looks stunning.

24 November 2009, 12:57 PM	#26
carlhaluss "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Carl Location: Vancouver, Canada Watch: Rolex Explorer 1 Posts: 1,780	Absolutely not. And if Rolex even thought of doing such a thing, I'm sure they would do a DLC (Diamond Like Coating), like Breitling did with the Avenger Skyland Blacksteel and the Super Avenger Blacksteel. Possibly the nicest of such watches I have seen. As a matter of fact, I did get the SA Blacksteel, a limited edition of 2000. HOWEVER, as tough as DLC coating is, I did give it a bad ding at work, right on the edge of the bezel, and it went right through to the bare metal. The only way to fix it, would have been to get a totally new bezel, at about $600. Fortunately, the ding was small enough that you couldn't notice it unless you have perfect eyesight, or with a magnifying glass. That being said, it still spoilt the whole "blackened" thing for me, and I was fortunate enough to sell it at a very good price, and to someone who just loves the watch. I am sure this is why Rolex will not do a PVC watch. I have also seen PVC coated watches, where the coating has started to rub off, after about 5 years, and the metal is showing. A Rolex can last for decades and still look great, but I can guarantee it will not look great with such a coating! Anyway, that is my 2 cents worth on the subject. Although some of those watche look fantastic, I am sure we will not be seeing it on a Rolex. Cheers, Carl __________________ Those who possess a sense of entitlement are seldom satisfied.

24 November 2009, 08:15 AM	#29
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	Rolex won't produce one. They are more like trend setters than following the trend.

24 November 2009, 08:24 AM	#30
snow_rocks Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Rick Location: At what TIME?!!! Watch: the SKY tonite! Posts: 3,225	yes

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