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Rob587 · 24 December 2009, 01:46 PM

Ive been reading a lot of different stuff about whats expected for the new sub, but where are people getting this info from and how accurate is it?

Also, what changes are the most likley? Bigger case? Maxi dial(what is a maxi dial lol)?

Thanks Guys!

Esquire · 24 December 2009, 01:58 PM

Just look at the new subs and change the colors and metals.

Rob587 · 24 December 2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Esquire

Just look at the new subs and change the colors and metals.

Which one's specifically? I am having a very difficult time telling the differences other than colors and metals.

TurboWatch · 24 December 2009, 02:05 PM

1. Super case
2. ceramic bezel
3. maxi dial
4. the bracelet will be like that of the DSSD ( no PLC like the GMT )

Rob587 · 24 December 2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboWatch

1. Super case
2. ceramic bezel
3. maxi dial
4. the bracelet will be like that of the DSSD ( no PLC like the GMT )

Wow, that sounds awful... I would hate if the standard non-date sub had a polished center in the band, and a bigger case with maxi dial!

I hope I can afford the current non-date sub soon. I think its the perfect watch.

JBat · 24 December 2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob587

Wow, that sounds awful... I would hate if the standard non-date sub had a polished center in the band, and a bigger case with maxi dial!

I hope I can afford the current non-date sub soon. I think its the perfect watch.

Like TurboWatch said, the new Sub likely won't have PCL's. And the 14060 is not slated for the update as of right now.

rescue7 · 24 December 2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboWatch

1. Super case
2. ceramic bezel
3. maxi dial
4. the bracelet will be like that of the DSSD ( no PLC like the GMT )

Msrp up from 6k(presently) to 7K minimum.
The minute hand will be changed to a fat hand.
Parachrom Blue hairspring
Lume will glow blue, unlike the green that was used previously.

JBat · 24 December 2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rescue7

Msrp up from 6k(presently) to 7K minimum.
The minute hand will be changed to a fat hand.
Parachrom Blue hairspring
Lume will glow blue, unlike the green that was used previously.

I didn't see any of this announced anywhere.

Whiskey · 24 December 2009, 02:27 PM

I agree, it will be exactly like the TT Blue/Black that came out this year except all SS.

I doubt very much that the center links will be polished.

I was at my AD a couple of days ago and compared a new TT-Blue Sub with the old TT Blue Sub next to each other.

Upon first glance, the only thing you'll notice that's different from the two is the maxi-dial with bigger lumes and hands. Other than that, they both look very similar to each other.

To tell you the truth, I'd find it very hard to justify spending the extra $2000 for the newer version and one would be just as well served with the older version than the newer.

I sold my SD4000 to buy the new Deepsea. Had Rolex instead released an updated SD4000 with cerichrome bezel and glidelock clasp and kept everything else the same, I'd more than likely have kept my old SD4000.

JBat · 24 December 2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob587

Which one's specifically? I am having a very difficult time telling the differences other than colors and metals.

The white gold blue Submariner, for one. Like the current GMT-Master IIc, the new SS Sub will have a ceramic bezel, supercase and maxi dial. Whether the bracelet has polished center links or not remains to be seen. I'm not sure about the movement.

JBat · 24 December 2009, 02:31 PM

Not me, I love the current Sub.

Seriously, you are right, JJ, it hasn't even been announced yet.

rescue7 · 24 December 2009, 02:36 PM

No it hasn't been announced yet, but look at there track record, just like clockwork. First the gold version then the following year a T/T (Rolesor) then a stainless model.

What would make Rolex S.A not bring out a 116610 Sub?

Rob587 · 24 December 2009, 02:53 PM

So im confused... what serial number is the current sub non date?

Speed · 24 December 2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob587

So im confused... what serial number is the current sub non date?

Model # = 14060M

TurboWatch · 24 December 2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by masugu

Model # = 14060M

model #14060

Serial of the current production is Vxxxxxx. The M's were the previous production.

SDDS · 25 December 2009, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rob587

so im confused... What serial number is the current sub non date?

v series

chkwong · 24 December 2009, 03:38 PM

I support PCL　new submariner . look more bling ..PCL is good

Speed · 24 December 2009, 03:47 PM

I think JJ means Rolex may decide not to release a new Sub

JJ Irani · 24 December 2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by masugu

I think JJ means Rolex may decide not to release a new Sub

Exactly!! As ex-CEO, I think I should know better!!

bobbystevenson · 25 December 2009, 04:10 AM

Because Rolex stated the SS would come out in 2010 to James Dowling at his meeting with them at Basel 2009?

Seems like decent evidence.

See James's report in the Basel section on that other watch forum.

1HotBoss70 · 25 December 2009, 04:15 AM

Thanks JJ...You the man

JJ Irani · 25 December 2009, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 1HotBoss70

Thanks JJ...You the man

You're welcome, Joe. Of course, there is a price difference of about $2K between the 2 models, the newer one being a bit more expensive.

JJ

JToddH · 24 December 2009, 03:49 PM

What is the "Super Case" and "MaxiDial" referred to?

JJ Irani · 24 December 2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JToddH

What is the "Super Case" and "MaxiDial" referred to?

Supercase are the thicker lugs and maxi dial are the dials with larger markers and hands.

JJ

1HotBoss70 · 25 December 2009, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Supercase are the thicker lugs and maxi dial are the dials with larger markers and hands.

JJ

Does anyone have a comparison photo of supercase, maxi dial watch to a non-supercase maxi dial watch...

Thanks

Speed · 25 December 2009, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 1HotBoss70

Does anyone have a comparison photo of supercase, maxi dial watch to a non-supercase maxi dial watch...

Thanks

Try using the advanced search function. There are a ton of those pics on here.

JJ Irani · 25 December 2009, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1HotBoss70

Does anyone have a comparison photo of supercase, maxi dial watch to a non-supercase maxi dial watch...

Thanks

Here ya go, buddy......on the left you have the older 16613 with standard dial, and on the right is the newer TT Blue Sub with the thicker lugs and larger markers and hands (Maxi dial)!!

jimbones43 · 25 December 2009, 02:54 AM

My guess is physically it will be identical to the GMT II C. I just hope the center links are not polished but I think they will be.

The anticipation for Basel 2010....................

deepsea72 · 25 December 2009, 06:52 AM

I would prefer they leave the SS as is and not release a new version if they intend to foul it up with PCL.

Quote:

I support PCL　new submariner . look more bling ..PCL is good

I do not. It won't be a Submariner you will be supporting, it will be a piece of glossy jewlery and no longer a divers watch.

It will look foul and wrong.

JBat · 25 December 2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by deepsea72

I would prefer they leave the SS as is and not release a new version if they intend to foul it up with PCL.

I do not. It won't be a Submariner you will be supporting, it will be a piece of glossy jewlery and no longer a divers watch.

It will look foul and wrong.

24 December 2009, 01:58 PM	#2
Esquire "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gator Country Watch: GMT-II Ceramic Posts: 266	Just look at the new subs and change the colors and metals. __________________ GMT-IIc, SMP, 312 Go Gators!

24 December 2009, 02:05 PM	#4
TurboWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,641	Take a look at the new TT ceramic sub and see 1. Super case 2. ceramic bezel 3. maxi dial 4. the bracelet will be like that of the DSSD ( no PLC like the GMT )

25 December 2009, 04:15 AM	#21
1HotBoss70 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Joe Location: Ontario Canada Watch: "V" GMT IIc Posts: 185	Thanks JJ Thanks JJ...You the man

24 December 2009, 01:46 PM	#1
Rob587 Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Florida Watch: Rolex Air King Posts: 84	What exactly will the new sub entail? Ive been reading a lot of different stuff about whats expected for the new sub, but where are people getting this info from and how accurate is it? Also, what changes are the most likley? Bigger case? Maxi dial(what is a maxi dial lol)? Thanks Guys!

24 December 2009, 02:27 PM	#9
Whiskey Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Watch: Deepsea Posts: 521	I agree, it will be exactly like the TT Blue/Black that came out this year except all SS. I doubt very much that the center links will be polished. I was at my AD a couple of days ago and compared a new TT-Blue Sub with the old TT Blue Sub next to each other. Upon first glance, the only thing you'll notice that's different from the two is the maxi-dial with bigger lumes and hands. Other than that, they both look very similar to each other. To tell you the truth, I'd find it very hard to justify spending the extra $2000 for the newer version and one would be just as well served with the older version than the newer. I sold my SD4000 to buy the new Deepsea. Had Rolex instead released an updated SD4000 with cerichrome bezel and glidelock clasp and kept everything else the same, I'd more than likely have kept my old SD4000.

24 December 2009, 02:31 PM	#11
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	Not me, I love the current Sub. Seriously, you are right, JJ, it hasn't even been announced yet.

24 December 2009, 02:36 PM	#12
rescue7 Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Rescueguy Location: Here Watch: DSSD Posts: 1,129	No it hasn't been announced yet, but look at there track record, just like clockwork. First the gold version then the following year a T/T (Rolesor) then a stainless model. What would make Rolex S.A not bring out a 116610 Sub?

24 December 2009, 02:53 PM	#13
Rob587 Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Florida Watch: Rolex Air King Posts: 84	So im confused... what serial number is the current sub non date?

24 December 2009, 03:38 PM	#17
chkwong "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: hong kong Posts: 19	I support PCL　new submariner . look more bling ..PCL is good

24 December 2009, 03:47 PM	#18
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,741	I think JJ means Rolex may decide not to release a new Sub

25 December 2009, 04:10 AM	#20
bobbystevenson "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 246	Because Rolex stated the SS would come out in 2010 to James Dowling at his meeting with them at Basel 2009? Seems like decent evidence. See James's report in the Basel section on that other watch forum.

24 December 2009, 03:49 PM	#23
JToddH Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Todd Location: U.S.A. Posts: 40	What is the "Super Case" and "MaxiDial" referred to?

25 December 2009, 02:54 AM	#28
jimbones43 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Jim Location: Earth Posts: 1,067	My guess is physically it will be identical to the GMT II C. I just hope the center links are not polished but I think they will be. The anticipation for Basel 2010....................

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