Opinions on RAP music

[ESKO]

Hi all.
A while ago Taffi Abernathy (?) posted a thread that asked what music or song you really couldn't stand. I am sure I didn't word that exactly as she did, but on to my question. RAP......
I grew up in the 80's and 90's listening to RAP. As I have gotten older, I have selectively changed what kind of rap I listen to, and have indeed changed it to more of a Hip Hop. What is really funny, is throughout my time when I was in the military, I never stopped listening to rap, but I started to like rock, alternative, metal, oldies, hair bands, R&B, and country. Most rap fans don't touch on any of that other music which shows their ignorance and intoloerance to expand their appreciation of music. When I read the posts on Taffi's thread every 2 or 3 was I can't stand anything rap. What is it you dislike about it? The cursing? The themes? The Violence? The music?
If you dig deeper than just your conventional rap there are a lot of very talented musicians. For example, a few years ago I went to an Afroman concert (of the "Because I got high" fame) This guy who sung a song about marijuana was slappin away on stage with a double guitar! Plus there is rap, or as I categorize it "Hip Hop" that doesn't use curse words. I seem to appreciate good music, any genre. I also appreciate good musicians and ESPECIALLY good lyricists. I do like Ludacris, because he delivers lyricism on a whole different level. His punchlines can't be beat, and he raps with a comedic twist. So what is it that you don't like about rap?

[diversified]

I can honestly say that I like all kinds of music including Rap, but I can't stand the Rap over the past 10-15 years with all the "gangster" crap.

[Leasky]

I may be an old fart (44) but I have to say that I have never liked Rap music in any of its so called "stages of evolution".

Sorry; I just dont get it.

[ft laud mike]

Originally Posted by Leasky

I may be an old fart (44) but I have to say that I have never liked Rap music in any of its so called "stages of evolution".

Sorry; I just dont get it.

truly is pure carp!

[Dr. Robert]

not a fan of rap.

[Lamone]

There's good and bad in everything. Some RAP music is very good, Biggie comes to mind.

[Mike B]

Don't like it, never did.

[davestan]

(C)RAP music

[padi56]

Originally Posted by davestan

(C)RAP music

Would agree 100% its more like non-music.

[Saxon007]

To me it's just noise. Annoying noise.

[RebreatherDiver]

to me it has turned into the same thing as potty humor, I got over it in junior high

[sakuraba]

I don't like violent rap music (gangsta rap).

I listen to music to relax or get in a particular mood. And never have I felt the need to be in a violent mood.

[mailman]

Originally Posted by RebreatherDiver

to me it has turned into the same thing as potty humor, I got over it in junior high

But potty humor is still funny

[shm5088]

I guess I don't like it since I don't ever understand what they're saying.

[Taffi Abernathy]

My Dear Luis,

The probability of my liking rap is about the same as my owning this whip below. In other words, <.000001. Little Jewish girls from Philly have more than a modicum of difficulty "going gangsta" if you receive my meaning.

[boa2]

Originally Posted by Taffi Abernathy

My Dear Luis,

The probability of my liking rap is about the same as my owning this whip below. In other words, <.000001. Little Jewish girls from Philly have more than a modicum of difficulty "going gangsta" if you receive my meaning.

Are you suuuuuuuure, Faith?

[ESKO]

Originally Posted by Taffi Abernathy

My Dear Luis,

The probability of my liking rap is about the same as my owning this whip below. In other words, <.000001. Little Jewish girls from Philly have more than a modicum of difficulty "going gangsta" if you receive my meaning.

LOUD AND CLEAR Taffi!!

That was really interesting, funny, and shocking. Would you like to see more rediculous things of that sort? I am not sure if it is illegal to post the link, but here is a funny site with rediculous cars www.youdrivewhat.com
Some of those cars are so crazy. I must admit, I don't bond so much to the culture of Hip Hop Rap, it's the music that moves me, and moreover, the lyrics. I do have some huge gold and diamond chains, rings and bracelets, and I am very gaudy myself, but in my mind with me, I can honestly and openly say that these material things give me a sense of accomplishment ans an "I've made it mentality". I wear my gaudy jewelry proudly, this is about the only influence from rap or Hip Hop I have though!
I am a advocate of different strokes for different folks, but I just felt how I had opened myself up to other genres, why was it so difficult for others? And I do believe that any genre can carry a bad message, it may just not be as blatantly clear as in some of the bad in Rap/Hip Hop.

One last point, and I was truly ignorant to the meaning of modicum, I was just listening to a song called Good Mourning by Talib Kwelli. This is not to down you Taffi, but it made me think of my ignorance, and how some rappers like to use big words, but really say nothing.
Talibe states:
"Just because no one can understand how you speak
don't necessarily mean that what you be sayin is deep"
and thanks for that awesome pic Taffi!

[ESKO]

Originally Posted by Taffi Abernathy

My Dear Luis,

The probability of my liking rap is about the same as my owning this whip below. In other words, <.000001. Little Jewish girls from Philly have more than a modicum of difficulty "going gangsta" if you receive my meaning.

Speaking of little Jewish girls, I like Amy Winehouse's music. I especially like her old school soul voice!
Maybe another topic.....

[Brushpup]

I hate it, and always will.

[2005rivers]

I don't like the image most rappers put off, They always have to say how much something cost or how gangster they are, I stop listening after that. I am not saying every rapper does this but the ones that do give everyone a bad name

[Mosco]

There is a clear line between Rap and Hip Hop. Some straddle the line and are successful at it, like Jay Z for example. Brilliant man, IMO.

As far as other acts - there are very few, sadly. The Roots, Talib Kweli, Common, Mos Def, Lupe Fiasco, De La Soul, Method Man - those are about all that's left. Roots played one of the best live shows I have EVER seen, and I've been to some epic ones.

That said, I listen to just about all genres, excluding Techno and Country.

[Yazo]

It all depends on what kind of Hip Hop / Rap you listen to.... there's a TON of ignorant retarded rap songs out there. But with that there's a TON of really good music as well. I listen to it quite a bit, but I stick mainly to older 90's stuff - I can't get down with the Soulja Boys and 50 Cents. But I'm also into basically everything else - from Chris Isaak to Guns N Roses to Lynard Skynard to Fiona Apple - good music is good music.

So what about rap appeals to me? Easy, I like the rags to riches success stories - people who had a passion and busted their hump to make it, rappers like the ones Mosco mentions. IMHO to come from nothing and make something out of your life speaks volumes rather than to be born with a silver spoon in your mouth.

The 90's stuff that I'm into:

A Tribe Called Quest
De La Soul
Wu Tang Clan
Nas
Biggie
Mobb Deep
Common
etc

[bodybump]

Why what wrong with rap???...:

[chriseskew24]

Originally Posted by bodybump

Why what wrong with rap???...:

So Gangster Oscar Is it Kyle

[JimC]

Originally Posted by bodybump

Why what wrong with rap???...:

That is funny!

[bodybump]

wait??? this isnt kyle right???

[chriseskew24]

I am very musicaly diverse I love all forms of music. From Sinatra to Buddy Guy to Metalica GNR Alice in Chains (my all time favorite)

As far as Rap I am more into the older stuff

Liquid Swords
Naughty By Nature
Mob Deep
Nas
Ice Cube
Dre
the list goes one

[erwin]

Marshall Mathers aint so bad! I lke rap when blended with rock music!

[Yazo]

[DarkHorse]

Some rap is okay and some is absolute garbage. Different horses for different courses =]