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scotty6278 · 19 February 2010, 11:42 AM

Would most of you guys rather the submariner or the GMT (black and red bezel). There is something about the GMT that I love. But I wonder, for the one really nice watch I will own, is that a bit too sporty? Curious what you all think. Thanks

HL65 · 19 February 2010, 11:44 AM

Solution: Both--I have a GMT Pepsi and LV--love them both--both classics!!

CPTL · 19 February 2010, 11:46 AM

Among those two, I'd pick the GMT-II. It's more comfortable, and the rapid-set hour advance and 24-hr hand are both more useful to me than the Sub's depth rating.

If you love the GMT but are worried about the bezel, get it in all black. You can even buy the additional bezel inserts in red/blue & red/black and change them out fairly easily with the right tool and a little know-how.

Atomant · 19 February 2010, 11:49 AM

I would pick the GMT II because it's just more functional with it's different time-zones and with a 100m water resistant I can still do some diving with it without being reminded that it's a diver's watch. JMHO.

Dan Pierce · 19 February 2010, 11:55 AM

The GMT would be my choice.

dP

Speed · 19 February 2010, 11:57 AM

I think both watches are "sporty" but fine with biz casual or even a suit...now I am not trying to resurrect the Sub with suit topic!!!

When do you anticipate wearing the watch?

mike · 19 February 2010, 01:02 PM

Welcome.

Historically the Submariner has been the more popular watch. That said the 16710 offers more versatility in both function and look. My vote-GMT.

NavalFlight · 19 February 2010, 01:11 PM

I went with the GMT IIc. With the black bezel it looks similar to the Sub but has it's own unique look. I love having the 24 hour hand and the 24 hour bezel. I don't need the Sub's bezel telling me where the 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50 minute marks are. The primary use for the Sub bezel is to help monitor your air capacity under water. The Sub is a lot less efficient at that than the new mini-computers that divers go down with. If your a serious diver who needs more than 100 meters of waterproofing then get a Sub. If not, I heavily recommend the GMT II.

sea-dweller · 19 February 2010, 01:39 PM

I have both. I bought one, then the other, as many of us on TRF did.

Mockingbird · 19 February 2010, 01:47 PM

If you're only going to buy one, most likely as your "one watch" as many people do, go with the Submariner. You won't be disappointed; it's sporty enough to wear with board shorts, but dressy enough to go with an Italian suit.

The GMT II Coke, as much as I like it, is too sporty to suit everybody's needs.

Wooddog44 · 20 February 2010, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mockingbird

If you're only going to buy one, most likely as your "one watch" as many people do, go with the Submariner. You won't be disappointed; it's sporty enough to wear with board shorts, but dressy enough to go with an Italian suit.

The GMT II Coke, as much as I like it, is too sporty to suit everybody's needs.

For me, the final choice came down to Sub Date vs. GMT II w/black bezel. In the end, in my opinion, while similar in appearance the Sub is a better looking watch.

I also feel that they are too close in appearance to own both so am leaning toward a white faced, stick dial, Jubilee DJ as my next addition but go back and forth, daily, between SS or TT.

kgglonghorn · 19 February 2010, 01:47 PM

unless you are diving (or using the Sub bezel for something specific) get the GMT with a pepsi insert AND a black insert...two watches for the price of one...PLUSE the GMT is the coolest watch known to man...just ask Magnum.

dysert · 19 February 2010, 02:20 PM

If you travel overseas, this is the watch to have. You can dive in it as well.

Deyn Man · 19 February 2010, 04:39 PM

Unless you plan to do serious diving below 100m, gmt gets my vote..

added complication for different time zones

bayerische · 19 February 2010, 04:42 PM

I have both too, they are a great pair! Best divers/aviators watch if you ask me.

But if I had to choose between them. I think I would take the Sub, I love its simplicity.

Singslinger · 19 February 2010, 04:52 PM

My vote is for the Sub, especially the new ceramic versions with the Glidelock clasp.

walds11 · 19 February 2010, 08:35 PM

Sub. I have no need for a second timezone. And I am a long-time Sub lover.

bounce · 19 February 2010, 09:24 PM

I have owned the GMT II, GMT IIc & sold them.
Now wearing a Sub & love it, it is so comfortable & a true classic.

JP500 · 19 February 2010, 09:40 PM

The sub you can wear with anything from jeans to a tuxedo. The GMTs are a bit less versatile. Whereas a sub is acceptable with dress wear, a GMT in pepsi or coke would border on being out of place.

scotty6278 · 7 March 2010, 03:31 PM

Just out of curiosity what made you sell the GMTIIc

Watchdog · 7 March 2010, 03:34 PM

GMT!

nauticajoe · 19 February 2010, 09:52 PM

That's a tough one. Both are excellent watches in their own ways. I decided to go the gmt route. But, either one you can't go wrong.

landroverking · 19 February 2010, 11:11 PM

G M T for me.

Tools · 19 February 2010, 11:50 PM

Either one is a great choice..

I wear a black GMT quite a lot and many mistake it for the Sub, but it is a much more versatile and more "comfortable" watch... The black/red is a great looking version too and is a go anywhere, do anything watch....

Lowflight · 7 March 2010, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Either one is a great choice..

I wear a black GMT quite a lot and many mistake it for the Sub, but it is a much more versatile and more "comfortable" watch... The black/red is a great looking version too and is a go anywhere, do anything watch....

I agree

black gmt is the best compromise

AWS · 8 March 2010, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Either one is a great choice..

I wear a black GMT quite a lot and many mistake it for the Sub, but it is a much more versatile and more "comfortable" watch... The black/red is a great looking version too and is a go anywhere, do anything watch....

Just curious....assuming the same bracelet, what is it about the GMT that makes it more comfortable?

bluemartinifan · 8 March 2010, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Either one is a great choice..

I wear a black GMT quite a lot and many mistake it for the Sub, but it is a much more versatile and more "comfortable" watch... The black/red is a great looking version too and is a go anywhere, do anything watch....

Can't say it any better than Tools did -

below is my GMT doing laps with me in the pool.

Faide · 8 March 2010, 03:21 PM

I have a SUB, been wearing it 5 days a week for the past 7 years. Between the Sub and GMT at the time the sub was the easy winner.

Bear in mind this was my first Rolex and first luxury watch. So i wanted something that would look good at the office and on the beach and everywhere in between. All the reviews suggested the Sub was the one.

_Faide

htc8p · 9 March 2010, 12:14 PM

go for the gmt2c the best rolex sports watch right now.

not thick for a dive watch but solid feel and weight.

more for formal than casual though. but i use it for both and its fine!

gary123 · 9 March 2010, 06:48 AM

GMT for me to

19 February 2010, 11:42 AM	#1
scotty6278 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: CT Posts: 11	Sub vs. GMT Would most of you guys rather the submariner or the GMT (black and red bezel). There is something about the GMT that I love. But I wonder, for the one really nice watch I will own, is that a bit too sporty? Curious what you all think. Thanks

19 February 2010, 11:44 AM	#2
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,993	Solution: Both--I have a GMT Pepsi and LV--love them both--both classics!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

19 February 2010, 11:46 AM	#3
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	Among those two, I'd pick the GMT-II. It's more comfortable, and the rapid-set hour advance and 24-hr hand are both more useful to me than the Sub's depth rating. If you love the GMT but are worried about the bezel, get it in all black. You can even buy the additional bezel inserts in red/blue & red/black and change them out fairly easily with the right tool and a little know-how. __________________ 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial

19 February 2010, 11:49 AM	#4
Atomant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fernwood Posts: 3,455	I would pick the GMT II because it's just more functional with it's different time-zones and with a 100m water resistant I can still do some diving with it without being reminded that it's a diver's watch. JMHO. __________________ 116613LN 16600SD 16610LV 116710 16710 16570 Speedy 3570.50 PAM25 Oris TT1 and a bunch of G-Shocks. Flipped: Daytona 116520 Seamaster 2231.80

19 February 2010, 01:39 PM	#9
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I have both. I bought one, then the other, as many of us on TRF did. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

19 February 2010, 11:57 AM	#6
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	I think both watches are "sporty" but fine with biz casual or even a suit...now I am not trying to resurrect the Sub with suit topic!!! When do you anticipate wearing the watch?

19 February 2010, 01:02 PM	#7
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Welcome. Historically the Submariner has been the more popular watch. That said the 16710 offers more versatility in both function and look. My vote-GMT.

19 February 2010, 01:11 PM	#8
NavalFlight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 139	I went with the GMT IIc. With the black bezel it looks similar to the Sub but has it's own unique look. I love having the 24 hour hand and the 24 hour bezel. I don't need the Sub's bezel telling me where the 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50 minute marks are. The primary use for the Sub bezel is to help monitor your air capacity under water. The Sub is a lot less efficient at that than the new mini-computers that divers go down with. If your a serious diver who needs more than 100 meters of waterproofing then get a Sub. If not, I heavily recommend the GMT II.

19 February 2010, 01:47 PM	#10
Mockingbird "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: -- Posts: 2,097	If you're only going to buy one, most likely as your "one watch" as many people do, go with the Submariner. You won't be disappointed; it's sporty enough to wear with board shorts, but dressy enough to go with an Italian suit. The GMT II Coke, as much as I like it, is too sporty to suit everybody's needs.

19 February 2010, 01:47 PM	#12
kgglonghorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Posts: 375	unless you are diving (or using the Sub bezel for something specific) get the GMT with a pepsi insert AND a black insert...two watches for the price of one...PLUSE the GMT is the coolest watch known to man...just ask Magnum.

19 February 2010, 02:20 PM	#13
dysert 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 194	Go for the GMT If you travel overseas, this is the watch to have. You can dive in it as well.

19 February 2010, 04:39 PM	#14
Deyn Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dean Location: Philippines Posts: 1,037	Unless you plan to do serious diving below 100m, gmt gets my vote.. added complication for different time zones

19 February 2010, 04:42 PM	#15
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	I have both too, they are a great pair! Best divers/aviators watch if you ask me. But if I had to choose between them. I think I would take the Sub, I love its simplicity.

19 February 2010, 04:52 PM	#16
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	My vote is for the Sub, especially the new ceramic versions with the Glidelock clasp.

19 February 2010, 08:35 PM	#17
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,659	Sub. I have no need for a second timezone. And I am a long-time Sub lover. __________________ Adam

19 February 2010, 09:24 PM	#18
bounce Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: kent Posts: 234	I have owned the GMT II, GMT IIc & sold them. Now wearing a Sub & love it, it is so comfortable & a true classic.

19 February 2010, 09:40 PM	#19
JP500 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 221	The sub you can wear with anything from jeans to a tuxedo. The GMTs are a bit less versatile. Whereas a sub is acceptable with dress wear, a GMT in pepsi or coke would border on being out of place.

7 March 2010, 03:31 PM	#20
scotty6278 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: CT Posts: 11	Just out of curiosity what made you sell the GMTIIc

7 March 2010, 03:34 PM	#21
Watchdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Junkyard Dog Location: The Doghouse Watch: I can't tell time Posts: 6,819	GMT!

19 February 2010, 09:52 PM	#22
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	That's a tough one. Both are excellent watches in their own ways. I decided to go the gmt route. But, either one you can't go wrong.

19 February 2010, 11:11 PM	#23
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	G M T for me.

19 February 2010, 11:50 PM	#24
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,499	Either one is a great choice.. I wear a black GMT quite a lot and many mistake it for the Sub, but it is a much more versatile and more "comfortable" watch... The black/red is a great looking version too and is a go anywhere, do anything watch.... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

8 March 2010, 03:21 PM	#28
Faide Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New York City Watch: SS Sub/GMTII/EXPII Posts: 203	I have a SUB, been wearing it 5 days a week for the past 7 years. Between the Sub and GMT at the time the sub was the easy winner. Bear in mind this was my first Rolex and first luxury watch. So i wanted something that would look good at the office and on the beach and everywhere in between. All the reviews suggested the Sub was the one. _Faide

9 March 2010, 12:14 PM	#29
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,472	go for the gmt2c the best rolex sports watch right now. not thick for a dive watch but solid feel and weight. more for formal than casual though. but i use it for both and its fine!

9 March 2010, 06:48 AM	#30
gary123 Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bolton UK Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 18	GMT for me to

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