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marie · 25 March 2010, 09:46 AM

They use Rolex once in the title:

"VOOW Mens Diving Watch 40MM Red Black Bezel Rolex GMTII"

http://cgi.ebay.com/VOOW-Mens-Diving...item1c1122f09c

Allowed or not?

TimeToGo · 25 March 2010, 09:49 AM

As long as the watch does not have the markings, there is no trademark violation. A lot of folks use "Rolex style" to refer to a Datejust type watch...

All is good here!

marie · 25 March 2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeToGo

As long as the watch does not have the markings, there is no trademark violation. A lot of folks use "Rolex style" to refer to a Datejust type watch...

All is good here!

Glad you could make that out. I couldn't see anything on that one picture.

TimeToGo · 25 March 2010, 09:56 AM

I actually could not make it out. But saw the name was only on the title and not claimed on the "Brand" type.

marie · 25 March 2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeToGo

I actually could not make it out. But saw the name was only on the title and not claimed on the "Brand" type.

That at least makes me feel better ;-) I know my eyes aren't what they used to be but you had me a bit worried...

MikeyTX · 25 March 2010, 11:27 AM

Still a violation. Seller is using a picture of a Rolex GMT Master II. The watch he is selling has it's date window at the 12:00 position !

marie · 25 March 2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyTX

Still a violation. Seller is using a picture of a Rolex GMT Master II. The watch he is selling has it's date window at the 12:00 position !

So that one is a bad listing as well??
I thought the picture was awfully small for there not to be something fishy.

MikeyTX · 25 March 2010, 11:45 AM

If you have time, do a web search for the actual watch he is selling. Rolex does not have a lock on the black/red bezel color combo. What he can't do is use the picture of a Rolex.

marie · 25 March 2010, 11:47 AM

Ok. I will do that now.

marie · 25 March 2010, 12:32 PM

I went to the Voow company site, and while they didn't show the exact combination shown in the Ebay listing, I did grab a picture of next closest color combination.

When I compared the watches, It looks like the seller's picture has the Voow logo below the 12 position like the one on their site. So it appears that the seller is using the correct watch picture for the description in his listing.

That would mean that the listing is legit, correct?

Sorry the picture from the Ebay listing is so bad. It was tiny to begin with and my efforts to enlarge it only resulted in a blurry picture.

MikeyTX · 25 March 2010, 02:27 PM

That's darn good. Excellent work !

marie · 25 March 2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyTX

That's darn good. Excellent work !

That is good to hear, because this is addictive and it would not be a good habit to have if I stink at it.

MikeyTX · 25 March 2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mcl

That is good to hear, because this is addictive and it would not be a good habit to have if I stink at it.

Don't worry about making a mistake. That's how we all learn.

MikeyTX · 25 March 2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mcl

I went to the Voow company site, and while they didn't show the exact combination shown in the Ebay listing, I did grab a picture of next closest color combination.

When I compared the watches, It looks like the seller's picture has the Voow logo below the 12 position like the one on their site. So it appears that the seller is using the correct watch picture for the description in his listing.

That would mean that the listing is legit, correct?

Sorry the picture from the Ebay listing is so bad. It was tiny to begin with and my efforts to enlarge it only resulted in a blurry picture.

Kind ah sorta. He is still deceiving by using the Rolex GMT II statement. Most people that would bid that kind of auction don't bother to do the kind of research seen here on the forum.

ParisDakarBmw · 25 March 2010, 02:32 PM

VOOW Sumarine Diving Watch

-Model VW10

Replica crap! Good work on the pics!

Czechman · 25 March 2010, 10:01 PM

By using the words Rolex GMTII instead of "Rolex-type" in the title and the microscopic photo he's trying to trick some sucker into buying it thinking he's getting a real Rolex. This guy is a sleezeball regardless of the the fine points of his description.

AUTOGRAPHHOUND1 · 25 March 2010, 10:27 PM

Authenticity aside, you can't even say "Rolex Like" in your title. It's called Keyword Spamming, and it's a violation of ebay's policies. When people do a search, they don't want to see 1000 items that have "Not Rolex" pop up when they did a "Rolex" search. It's a very sensible rule. Title your item what it is, not what it's not. Imagine when Michael Jackson died, that I listed my item as "Michael Jackson Like Rolex Watch". It's all done to get more hits when it's not appropriate.

Czechman · 26 March 2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AUTOGRAPHHOUND1

Authenticity aside, you can't even say "Rolex Like" in your title. It's called Keyword Spamming, and it's a violation of ebay's policies. When people do a search, they don't want to see 1000 items that have "Not Rolex" pop up when they did a "Rolex" search. It's a very sensible rule. Title your item what it is, not what it's not. Imagine when Michael Jackson died, that I listed my item as "Michael Jackson Like Rolex Watch". It's all done to get more hits when it's not appropriate.

You are correct... good point.

TimeToGo · 26 March 2010, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AUTOGRAPHHOUND1

Authenticity aside, you can't even say "Rolex Like" in your title. It's called Keyword Spamming, and it's a violation of ebay's policies. When people do a search, they don't want to see 1000 items that have "Not Rolex" pop up when they did a "Rolex" search. It's a very sensible rule. Title your item what it is, not what it's not. Imagine when Michael Jackson died, that I listed my item as "Michael Jackson Like Rolex Watch". It's all done to get more hits when it's not appropriate.

Well if this is the case....

See link below w/290 items that refer to / or claim to / fit a rolex BUT it is not a Rolex...

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=fit....c0.m270.l1313

This is very common on Ebay!

AUTOGRAPHHOUND1 · 26 March 2010, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Well if this is the case....

See link below w/290 items that refer to / or claim to / fit a rolex BUT it is not a Rolex...

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=fit....c0.m270.l1313

This is very common on Ebay!

First, I'm looking at a bunch of items that are accessories that can be used with a Rolex, which is entirely different than listing a watch and calling it Rolex Like, or Not A Rolex. We need to compare apples to apples.

Second, even if 1000 people were selling their watches and calling them Rolex Like in the title, it doesn't mean it's not a violation of Ebay rules. Like with most rules, it needs to be reported on an individual basis for Ebay to do something about it. If nobody complains, and nobody cares, then it might just stay up. Not something I'd risk my ID and future on ebay over.

TimeToGo · 26 March 2010, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AUTOGRAPHHOUND1

First, I'm looking at a bunch of items that are accessories that can be used with a Rolex, which is entirely different than listing a watch and calling it Rolex Like, or Not A Rolex. We need to compare apples to apples.

Second, even if 1000 people were selling their watches and calling them Rolex Like in the title, it doesn't mean it's not a violation of Ebay rules. Like with most rules, it needs to be reported on an individual basis for Ebay to do something about it. If nobody complains, and nobody cares, then it might just stay up. Not something I'd risk my ID and future on ebay over.

Apples to Apples, we were discussing writing "Rolex" on a title, whether Rolex Like (w/no trademark violations), or just "not a Rolex".... The same occurs when folks advertise accessories that will "fit a Rolex" (as with my example)...which is not a trademark violation unless it has the "markings.

I think you are contradicting yourself that "it doesn't mean "rolex like" it's not a violation of Ebay rules, BUT it needs to be reported...

I am not jumping at you, just showing there are hundredths if not thousands of listings with Rolex in the Title, and it is not a Rolex product.

AUTOGRAPHHOUND1 · 26 March 2010, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Apples to Apples, we were discussing writing "Rolex" on a title, whether Rolex Like (w/no trademark violations), or just "not a Rolex".... The same occurs when folks advertise accessories that will "fit a Rolex" (as with my example)...which is not a trademark violation unless it has the "markings.

I think you are contradicting yourself that "it doesn't mean "rolex like" it's not a violation of Ebay rules, BUT it needs to be reported...

I am not jumping at you, just showing there are hundredths if not thousands of listings with Rolex in the Title, and it is not a Rolex product.

You're the one who originally said using "Rolex Type" was OK. Go back and look at your posts. My post was entirely about listing a watch and using "Rolex" or "Not a Rolex" in the title. Which is absolutely 100% Keyword Spamming and a violation of ebay rules. Then you put up a link to Rolex related ACCESSORIES which really don't have anything to do with selling actual watches. You can use the word Rolex when selling an accessory if the accessory works on a Rolex. That has nothing to do with trying to sell a Swatch watch, and putting "Rolex Type Swatch Watch" in the title. It's apples and oranges.

And the new link you posted is a clear violation of ebay keyword spamming rules, and should be reported. I'm not sure what your point is. The fact you can find auctions that violate the rules doesn't mean it's OK. Just like selling a fake Rolex on ebay is a violation of the rules. You can find a lot of fake Rolex watches listed, doesn't mean it's acceptable.

MikeyTX · 26 March 2010, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Well if this is the case....

See link below w/290 items that refer to / or claim to / fit a rolex BUT it is not a Rolex...

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=fit....c0.m270.l1313

This is very common on Ebay!

Cool ................ I need a spring bar tool ................. Great tooth pick

bayerische · 25 March 2010, 11:01 PM

Voow, that a piece of

MikeyTX · 25 March 2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

Voow, that a piece of

Save us ..................... buy it for Kyle.

bayerische · 26 March 2010, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyTX

Save us ..................... buy it for Kyle.

No way.

MikeyTX · 26 March 2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

No way.

How 'bout JJ ? You could put it on a NATO strap

bayerische · 26 March 2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyTX

How 'bout JJ ? You could put it on a NATO strap

OK, it would fit JJ with a Nato strap and a Rado sidekick!

MikeyTX · 25 March 2010, 11:06 PM

Just reported it a second time for "key word spamming" sheesh

TimeToGo · 26 March 2010, 01:48 AM

Oleg Cassini Watch:
Title - MEN'S OLEG CASSINI QUARTZ WATCH TIMEX SEIKO ROLEX NIB
http://cgi.ebay.com/MENS-OLEG-CASSIN...item414e2645d9

Accutron -
Title - Accutron 26r29 Winter Park tag heuer rolex swiss casio!
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...kw=rolex+casio

I truly do not care to see these during a Rolex search....but it happens..

Just my 2 cents..

25 March 2010, 09:46 AM	#1
marie "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Antonio Watch: UN Starry Night Posts: 2,150	Using the Rolex name...allowed or not? They use Rolex once in the title: "VOOW Mens Diving Watch 40MM Red Black Bezel Rolex GMTII" http://cgi.ebay.com/VOOW-Mens-Diving...item1c1122f09c Allowed or not? __________________

25 March 2010, 11:27 AM	#6
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	Still a violation. Seller is using a picture of a Rolex GMT Master II. The watch he is selling has it's date window at the 12:00 position ! __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

25 March 2010, 11:45 AM	#8
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	If you have time, do a web search for the actual watch he is selling. Rolex does not have a lock on the black/red bezel color combo. What he can't do is use the picture of a Rolex. __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

25 March 2010, 11:47 AM	#9
marie "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Antonio Watch: UN Starry Night Posts: 2,150	Ok. I will do that now. __________________

25 March 2010, 02:27 PM	#11
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	That's darn good. Excellent work ! __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

25 March 2010, 09:49 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,719	As long as the watch does not have the markings, there is no trademark violation. A lot of folks use "Rolex style" to refer to a Datejust type watch... All is good here!

25 March 2010, 09:56 AM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,719	I actually could not make it out. But saw the name was only on the title and not claimed on the "Brand" type.

25 March 2010, 02:32 PM	#15
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	VOOW Sumarine Diving Watch -Model VW10 Replica crap! Good work on the pics!

25 March 2010, 10:01 PM	#16
Czechman "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Watch: See my signature Posts: 1,189	By using the words Rolex GMTII instead of "Rolex-type" in the title and the microscopic photo he's trying to trick some sucker into buying it thinking he's getting a real Rolex. This guy is a sleezeball regardless of the the fine points of his description. __________________ "Woody and Jen say hey from North Kakalaki" 19019, 19018x3, 17000x2, 16570x2, 16220, 5700, 1501, 6564, 16030, 16710, 16610

25 March 2010, 10:27 PM	#17
AUTOGRAPHHOUND1 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 29	Authenticity aside, you can't even say "Rolex Like" in your title. It's called Keyword Spamming, and it's a violation of ebay's policies. When people do a search, they don't want to see 1000 items that have "Not Rolex" pop up when they did a "Rolex" search. It's a very sensible rule. Title your item what it is, not what it's not. Imagine when Michael Jackson died, that I listed my item as "Michael Jackson Like Rolex Watch". It's all done to get more hits when it's not appropriate.

25 March 2010, 11:01 PM	#24
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Voow, that a piece of __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

25 March 2010, 11:06 PM	#29
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	Just reported it a second time for "key word spamming" sheesh __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

26 March 2010, 01:48 AM	#30
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,719	Oleg Cassini Watch: Title - MEN'S OLEG CASSINI QUARTZ WATCH TIMEX SEIKO ROLEX NIB http://cgi.ebay.com/MENS-OLEG-CASSIN...item414e2645d9 Accutron - Title - Accutron 26r29 Winter Park tag heuer rolex swiss casio! http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...kw=rolex+casio I truly do not care to see these during a Rolex search....but it happens.. Just my 2 cents..

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