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ChrisA · 6 May 2010, 12:24 AM

Hi There all

This is my first post on the forum and firstly what an amazing source of info! Has made the last 9 months a treat in my research for a new watch.

This is my problem........ I had decided that for my 30th I will treat myself to a Rolex and it will be a Sub 16610. However after nearly pulling the trigger in March I saw the pictures of the New Sub C due out this year and now I'm in a dilemma do I pay the extra and wait for the new one or go and buy the current version?
Also which is the better deal as the new sub is significantly more? Will this drive up the prices of the current model soon?
For reference I am on several waiting lists and I have been assured the new sub this year? I'm not looking to make money out of this, this is my watch that I want to keep forever and hopefully pass on to my children.
Thanks in advance
Chris

padi56 · 6 May 2010, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisA

Hi There all

This is my first post on the forum and firstly what an amazing source of info! Has made the last 9 months a treat in my research for a new watch.

This is my problem........ I had decided that for my 30th I will treat myself to a Rolex and it will be a Sub 16610. However after nearly pulling the trigger in March I saw the pictures of the New Sub C due out this year and now I'm in a dilemma do I pay the extra and wait for the new one or go and buy the current version?
Also which is the better deal as the new sub is significantly more? Will this drive up the prices of the current model soon?
For reference I am on several waiting lists and I have been assured the new sub this year? I'm not looking to make money out of this, this is my watch that I want to keep forever and hopefully pass on to my children.
Thanks in advance
Chris

Well first welcome to TRF now basically the 16610 has changed very little since introduction in 1988/9.So there will be few million of them in this world today. And only difference between them all is a SEL bracelet a LEC crystal,a few fonts and a different case stamp.Now the new Sub which will be around in a few months time.The movement same Cal 3135 thats been in
production since 1988/9 in the 16610.But now will have the in-house escapement parts but doubt in the real world if it will be any real benefit to the average watch wearer.Plus the new sub will have a Maxi dial, ceramic bezel insert that might look better but functions the same as the old one.And it has the block type case slightly wider looking lugs but mainly same size as the 16610.The new sub will have the new glidelock clasp that perhaps will be better than the old one but only time will tell on that one.I would seriously doubt if we will see any rise in price of the 16610 or any other modern day Rolex just to many of them around.So its up to you myself would get the classic 16610 sub now,or wait a few months for the other.

Tools · 6 May 2010, 01:37 AM

I don't think that anybody can figure this out for you...

If you have been yearning for the Sub as it is, then I don't know that you should suddenly yearn for a watch that hasn't even hit the display case yet...

However, if you do intend to keep it forever, then you may as well have the very latest... It's just going to cost you 20% more..

this is going to be a personal comfort decision... Will you be constantly second guessing yourself if you get the classic, or will you be satisfied ?? I'm happy with my old ones... some others may not be happy with anything but the latest model... and they will keep chasing that "newest" model forever..

Quicksilver · 6 May 2010, 02:01 AM

Hi and welcome.

Simply a matter of personal preference. If you like a larger and perhaps more glitzy watch then go for the new one. My personal choice is for the current model - it's more classic. But it has to be your own choice.

dkpw · 6 May 2010, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

However, if you do intend to keep it forever, then you may as well have the very latest... It's just going to cost you 20% more.

That's the key factor, IMHO.

gmaines · 6 May 2010, 03:35 AM

I would go for the current one... all I can say is Classic....

Dr. Robert · 6 May 2010, 03:38 AM

Get the current one now....buy used.
Then for your 40th b-day get the ceramic one...also buy it used! Save some money for your 50th b-day!

Rigsby1 · 6 May 2010, 03:44 AM

Hi Chris and welcome to TRF.

I myself have just bought the v16610 last weekend and i'm over the moon with it. So the choice is yours, good luck with it.

Gerardus · 6 May 2010, 04:52 AM

Me too

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigsby1

Hi Chris and welcome to TRF.

I myself have just bought the v16610 last weekend and i'm over the moon with it. So the choice is yours, good luck with it.

CoopJr · 6 May 2010, 05:00 AM

Chris...welcome to the forum. I would say wait and try them both on to be sure. As Padi has said, there will be many 16610's to choose from if the "old" style is to your liking.

1340jas · 6 May 2010, 05:07 AM

Welcome to the Forum. I always wanted a Sub and have owned a Datejust for many years. When buying the Sub the AD informed me of the slight change in model that was due this year. He was quite honest and explained it was a slight change with a heavy increase in price. He couldn't tell me how much exactly. I tried a GMTII which had the glide lock strap and is a similar sized watch.
I was told the new sub would have the same strap, which was part highly polished. I did not like this. I chose to get the currenr Sub because it was what I liked best.
Good luck

mike · 6 May 2010, 05:23 AM

It's really personal preference. There is one that's a bit of a compromise though.

Watch Professor · 6 May 2010, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1340jas

Welcome to the Forum. I always wanted a Sub and have owned a Datejust for many years. When buying the Sub the AD informed me of the slight change in model that was due this year. He was quite honest and explained it was a slight change with a heavy increase in price. He couldn't tell me how much exactly. I tried a GMTII which had the glide lock strap and is a similar sized watch.
I was told the new sub would have the same strap, which was part highly polished. I did not like this. I chose to get the currenr Sub because it was what I liked best.
Good luck

He was wrong. The GMT IIC does not have the Glide Lock, but the Easy Link. And the new sub will NOT have the polished center links. Typical AD BS to get a sale.

imono · 6 May 2010, 05:34 AM

New model will cost more.
I'll wait for the new model then decide.
If you get it now and like the new one better, then what are you going to do?
Sell it and loose a grand?

What, another 3 months wait? Or maybe even sooner.
It's not like the old model will be all gone when the new one comes out.
You can then sit down, relax and compare.
The only downside is pay more for the new model. But you get slight improvements with the increase in price.

swazi85 · 6 May 2010, 05:58 AM

I would say wait and try both if possible, as I would imagine there will still be some of the old available, I would say the new strap is worth the wait and money though.

kcmo · 6 May 2010, 06:06 AM

I agree that if you're undecided, it's best to wait to compare the two. You can't lose that way!

Watch Professor · 6 May 2010, 07:00 AM

Wait and compare. Personally, if I liketh enw one better, I'll wait an extra year and buy used here on TRF.

Traveler · 6 May 2010, 01:29 PM

You have reasearced and waited for 9 months already..a few more months to wait to compare in person side by side will not hurt.

Psmith · 6 May 2010, 01:32 PM

Wait for the new one, if only to compare. New bracelet and clasp are very nice.

Welcome to TRF Chris

Cheers

Ear Pain · 6 May 2010, 01:37 PM

Hi Chris, I've been there. Dipped my toes into a Rolex 14060 SCOC earlier in the year only to decant it recently in pursuit of something vintage....

Good luck indeed

Note to self - Must reduce time on watch forums

David

ParisDakarBmw · 6 May 2010, 01:34 PM

Pick up a 16610 for a good price. Find one with all the boxes & papers. You'll be happy!
Welcome to TRF!

andrew79 · 6 May 2010, 01:42 PM

wait and compare if you really like the ceramic model

JMIND · 6 May 2010, 02:02 PM

Welcome to TRF! I bought a 16610 a few months ago and love it. I'm glad I didn't wait. Good luck in making your decision!

rollieguy · 6 May 2010, 02:21 PM

wait and compare the two,see which one speaks to you.

andrew79 · 6 May 2010, 02:24 PM

I said: wait and compare, BUT I also know that waiting is painful LOL.... so.... just grab one current sub if you want... the new one will still exist in the next 20 years.... :)

Speed · 6 May 2010, 02:36 PM

So you never said which model you liked more.

Granted, the new one is only out in photos...but any prelim conclusions?

The foregoing should get you part way to a decision.

Singslinger · 6 May 2010, 07:07 PM

Wait for the new one. I own the TT Black ceramic Sub which at the moment is the closest thing you can find to the S/S version, and I feel the upgrades (maxi dial, ceramic bezel and Glidelock clasp) are well worth the extra money.

ChicagoBigHouse · 7 May 2010, 12:58 AM

You should wait, it's not that long of a time before you'll be able to try one on at an AD. THen you can make an informed decision.

Lion · 7 May 2010, 01:11 AM

Chris, welcome to the Forum and enjoy your time here...
Only you can make the decision as to what you want and need. Ask 20 people you will 20 different answers and reasons why!!!

16610v · 7 May 2010, 01:17 AM

welcome to the forum :)

I like the new one as well, but the difference is not justified for me to spend 20%+ more so I got the 16610, in my view it is 80% similar, and it won't hurt the "iconic" as long as it is submariner!

6 May 2010, 12:24 AM	#1
ChrisA "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: West Sussex, uk Posts: 1	Current sub or wait for the New Sub? Hi There all This is my first post on the forum and firstly what an amazing source of info! Has made the last 9 months a treat in my research for a new watch. This is my problem........ I had decided that for my 30th I will treat myself to a Rolex and it will be a Sub 16610. However after nearly pulling the trigger in March I saw the pictures of the New Sub C due out this year and now I'm in a dilemma do I pay the extra and wait for the new one or go and buy the current version? Also which is the better deal as the new sub is significantly more? Will this drive up the prices of the current model soon? For reference I am on several waiting lists and I have been assured the new sub this year? I'm not looking to make money out of this, this is my watch that I want to keep forever and hopefully pass on to my children. Thanks in advance Chris

6 May 2010, 01:37 AM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,499	I don't think that anybody can figure this out for you... If you have been yearning for the Sub as it is, then I don't know that you should suddenly yearn for a watch that hasn't even hit the display case yet... However, if you do intend to keep it forever, then you may as well have the very latest... It's just going to cost you 20% more.. this is going to be a personal comfort decision... Will you be constantly second guessing yourself if you get the classic, or will you be satisfied ?? I'm happy with my old ones... some others may not be happy with anything but the latest model... and they will keep chasing that "newest" model forever.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

6 May 2010, 02:01 AM	#4
Quicksilver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: David Location: London+Guangzhou Watch: ing watches Posts: 2,603	Hi and welcome. Simply a matter of personal preference. If you like a larger and perhaps more glitzy watch then go for the new one. My personal choice is for the current model - it's more classic. But it has to be your own choice. __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 116600, GMT Master II 16710 (Pepsi) and 116710 BLNR, Daytona 116500LN, Submariner 14060M.

6 May 2010, 03:38 AM	#7
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,079	Get the current one now....buy used. Then for your 40th b-day get the ceramic one...also buy it used! Save some money for your 50th b-day! __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

6 May 2010, 01:32 PM	#19
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Wait for the new one, if only to compare. New bracelet and clasp are very nice. Welcome to TRF Chris Cheers __________________

6 May 2010, 03:35 AM	#6
gmaines Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Watch: Submariner&SDDS Posts: 306	I would go for the current one... all I can say is Classic....

6 May 2010, 03:44 AM	#8
Rigsby1 Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Darren Location: England Posts: 401	Hi Chris and welcome to TRF. I myself have just bought the v16610 last weekend and i'm over the moon with it. So the choice is yours, good luck with it.

6 May 2010, 05:00 AM	#10
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	Chris...welcome to the forum. I would say wait and try them both on to be sure. As Padi has said, there will be many 16610's to choose from if the "old" style is to your liking.

6 May 2010, 05:07 AM	#11
1340jas "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: Wales Watch: SS Sub Date 'V' Posts: 199	Welcome to the Forum. I always wanted a Sub and have owned a Datejust for many years. When buying the Sub the AD informed me of the slight change in model that was due this year. He was quite honest and explained it was a slight change with a heavy increase in price. He couldn't tell me how much exactly. I tried a GMTII which had the glide lock strap and is a similar sized watch. I was told the new sub would have the same strap, which was part highly polished. I did not like this. I chose to get the currenr Sub because it was what I liked best. Good luck

6 May 2010, 05:23 AM	#12
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	It's really personal preference. There is one that's a bit of a compromise though.

6 May 2010, 05:34 AM	#14
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	New model will cost more. I'll wait for the new model then decide. If you get it now and like the new one better, then what are you going to do? Sell it and loose a grand? What, another 3 months wait? Or maybe even sooner. It's not like the old model will be all gone when the new one comes out. You can then sit down, relax and compare. The only downside is pay more for the new model. But you get slight improvements with the increase in price.

6 May 2010, 05:58 AM	#15
swazi85 Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Euan Location: Swaziland Watch: Rolex DSSD Posts: 27	I would say wait and try both if possible, as I would imagine there will still be some of the old available, I would say the new strap is worth the wait and money though.

6 May 2010, 06:06 AM	#16
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	I agree that if you're undecided, it's best to wait to compare the two. You can't lose that way!

6 May 2010, 07:00 AM	#17
Watch Professor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Myron Location: New York Watch: GMT IIC; Sub Date Posts: 3,166	Wait and compare. Personally, if I liketh enw one better, I'll wait an extra year and buy used here on TRF.

6 May 2010, 01:29 PM	#18
Traveler Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 374	You have reasearced and waited for 9 months already..a few more months to wait to compare in person side by side will not hurt.

6 May 2010, 01:37 PM	#20
Ear Pain "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: David Location: London Posts: 318	Hi Chris, I've been there. Dipped my toes into a Rolex 14060 SCOC earlier in the year only to decant it recently in pursuit of something vintage.... Good luck indeed Note to self - Must reduce time on watch forums David

6 May 2010, 01:34 PM	#21
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	Pick up a 16610 for a good price. Find one with all the boxes & papers. You'll be happy! Welcome to TRF!

6 May 2010, 01:42 PM	#22
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	wait and compare if you really like the ceramic model __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

6 May 2010, 02:02 PM	#23
JMIND "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jerry Location: New Mexico Watch: 16610 M Series Posts: 1,084	Welcome to TRF! I bought a 16610 a few months ago and love it. I'm glad I didn't wait. Good luck in making your decision!

6 May 2010, 02:21 PM	#24
rollieguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto Canada Watch: utalkinboutwillis Posts: 113	wait and compare the two,see which one speaks to you.

6 May 2010, 02:24 PM	#25
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	I said: wait and compare, BUT I also know that waiting is painful LOL.... so.... just grab one current sub if you want... the new one will still exist in the next 20 years.... :) __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

6 May 2010, 02:36 PM	#26
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	So you never said which model you liked more. Granted, the new one is only out in photos...but any prelim conclusions? The foregoing should get you part way to a decision.

6 May 2010, 07:07 PM	#27
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	Wait for the new one. I own the TT Black ceramic Sub which at the moment is the closest thing you can find to the S/S version, and I feel the upgrades (maxi dial, ceramic bezel and Glidelock clasp) are well worth the extra money.

7 May 2010, 12:58 AM	#28
ChicagoBigHouse "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Justin Location: Columbus Watch: No rolex currently Posts: 132	+1 for waiting You should wait, it's not that long of a time before you'll be able to try one on at an AD. THen you can make an informed decision.

7 May 2010, 01:11 AM	#29
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Chris, welcome to the Forum and enjoy your time here... Only you can make the decision as to what you want and need. Ask 20 people you will 20 different answers and reasons why!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

7 May 2010, 01:17 AM	#30
16610v "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: YL Watch: Submariner Posts: 701	welcome to the forum :) I like the new one as well, but the difference is not justified for me to spend 20%+ more so I got the 16610, in my view it is 80% similar, and it won't hurt the "iconic" as long as it is submariner! __________________ Instagram: litwing23

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