a bit concerned ...

[WWC]

Bought a Milgauss White Dial in an online auction yesterday. I was handed the watch which was a brand new 116400 V series from Client 548 (Israel). Under the Warranty card, it says it's from Eurasia LTd. Which is an authorized dealer in Israel.

He went up with me to the RSC and had the watch checked up. Unfortunately since I took it to the RSC in Hong Kong, they said they needed another two weeks to verify the serial code since it was not 888.

Well, I hope there aren't any problems. I mean they did take it behind closed doors and took half an hour in there. I wonder if that was the preliminary check up. The watch was brought back and said I needed to wait another 2 weeks. If there were problems with its authenticity, they would have told me straight away right?

Also, I hope there are no legal issues with the watch either... being stolen or something like that. The watch was just brand new with all the stickers on the glass, the bracelets and even the black code on the left side of the case. It also had the red stickers near the clasp. I matched up the serial number on the card with the watch itself and then took it up for inspection.


What do you guys think? Any thoughts about it? :(

[Z-Sub]

It should be fine but I found RSC HK unreasonable to hold that watch. They can easily tell if that if authentic or not and if the serial number is not on the stolen database, no need to hold.

[WWC]

That's exactly what I told them! I went up and explained that they should be able to immediately tell me if the watch is authentic or not. But they said that they needed to keep it for a couple of weeks, making this really nerve wreckin'

I don't know if I'm trying to make myself feel better, but I checked on the profile of the seller and he has over 350 positive feedbacks. He had the guts to go up with me to RSC and have it checked up.

If it's a fake, I'm sure they would immediately return it to me and tell me right on the spot right?

[Ck8]

If you have the card and the serial number match it should have 888 indicate it's from HK, like 160 for the UK.

[moviefreak]

I would not have left my watch with them.. did they offered to give it back or kind of confiscated the watch for two weeks..?

[WWC]

They did not confiscate my watch. They asked me if I wanted to take it back or if I wanted to leave it for two weeks and then pick it up afterwards. That's all. So I decided to leave it there and have a full check up on it.

[mountainrivera]

I have seen my share of fakes and IMO there is no mistaking one for a real one. Rolex rotors are silent (except for the daytona zenith) and the action when advancing the time is tight not sloppy. Has anyone seen fakes that fit the bill once handling them? Also, not likely you will get papers with matching serials. You need piece of mind and at least they will validate the watch. Two weeks goes fast :)

[WWC]

After a preliminary inspection of 30 minutes if it were fake, I mean they would immediately tell me right? They wouldn't tell me to leave it for another two weeks or ask me if I wanted to take it back?

I checked carefully, the tags, the matching serial codes and the green card looks pretty authentic considering the fact that I also have an Exp II and compared the two cards.

Two weeks might pass by fast, but then again to me I think it's gonna be an eternity. I might even just call to see if they can speed it up a bit!

[Lol-x]

I don't know what you said or what was said, but it seems like you should get an answer straight away. Its either got the correct movement,dial,hands,case&bracelet or it doesn't.

[conrail]

Yea, whats keeping it 2 weeks going to tell them? They could even, in the 30 minutes, take it in "the back" and pop off the case and check the movement immediately. If everything else matched up, which it sounds like it does in this case, a few minutes looking at the movement would do it even for me.

[WWC]

... so, I just called.


According to RSC Hong Kong, they do not have a record of purchase since the watch is from Israel. Thefore they cannot open the watch until they have received the serial code verification from Geneva.

It is then when they can verify if the watch is genuine or not.

I did tell them that I have another watch that was verified in 1/2 hour. They said that because the watch was under their records, they were able to do so in half an hour.

It's gonna take them about two weeks due to the fact that they are sending lots of watch serials to get checked up in Geneva. So hopefully they'll speed things up a bit ...

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by WWC

... so, I just called.


According to RSC Hong Kong, they do not have a record of purchase since the watch is from Israel. Thefore they cannot open the watch until they have received the serial code verification from Geneva.

It is then when they can verify if the watch is genuine or not.

I did tell them that I have another watch that was verified in 1/2 hour. They said that because the watch was under their records, they were able to do so in half an hour.

It's gonna take them about two weeks due to the fact that they are sending lots of watch serials to get checked up in Geneva. So hopefully they'll speed things up a bit ...

IMHO too much hoop-jumping for what is essentially a new reference.

Any AD could have given it the once-over and told you if it's a fake in 15 minutes.

FWIW, I think your seller is legit if he even went with you to have it authenticated. Either that or he wants to know too.

[WWC]

I'm sure he's known around RSC. He sells over 50 pieces per month and lots of people want their watches authenticated three. He also has lots of positive reviews under yahoo auctions. He did provide me with a sales receipt and showed me his ID card and I jotted down his info hahaha....

The more I hear from you guys, the more i think that the chances of beign fake is not high. but my main concern is whether or not that watch was "stolen" in Israel and brought over to HK and sold here.

I do have the Red and Green tags along with the Green Card with serial codes matching the rehault ring of the milgauss...

[Flyjet601]

I have dealt with Rolex HK many times.

When the watch first goes in the back.....it falls in line with the watches waiting, hence the 20-30 min wait. Rolex HK receives over 200 watches a day. Any question of authenticity should be done right away...... but HK RSC is very inflexible.

I wanted a bezel changed on my 16710....5 minute fix, but they wanted to keep the watch for 2 weeks. I pushed for it and they did it in an hour. The 2 week wait is a standard answer so everybody doesn't ask for rush service.

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by Flyjet601

I have dealt with Rolex HK many times.

When the watch first goes in the back.....it falls in line with the watches waiting, hence the 20-30 min wait. Rolex HK receives over 200 watches a day. Any question of authenticity should be done right away...... but HK RSC is very inflexible.

I wanted a bezel changed on my 16710....5 minute fix, but they wanted to keep the watch for 2 weeks. I pushed for it and they did it in an hour. The 2 week wait is a standard answer so everybody doesn't ask for rush service.

Best explanation, so far.

Thanks for clearing it up, Larry.

[WWC]

Great info Larry, thanks!



What do you think of my case though? Any suggestions and opinions?

[Shade]

I think hk rsc is just being annoying. I'm not sure at least why they can't tell you first glance if its considered real or not.. And checking it takes two weeks is just too long..

[Lol-x]

I thought Rolex HK could do an online check of the Rolex stolen watch database.

Given you have all the bits including tags, the risk that it was a stolen Rolex is negligible. However, its a matter for yourself.

[Welshwatchman]

I'm sure that things are ok.

You wouldn't have dealt with the Ebay seller if you were not 100% confident.

[WWC]

well... let's all hope for the best :D

Thanks everybody!

[jeanclaude]

Concerned if this is a genuine dealer...as it appears that the Company name is EURO ASIA LTD
Any one had sale concerns?

[dmhines]

Post some pics.

[watchwatcher]

Holy seven year thread resurrection, Batman!