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jfash · 2 December 2010, 12:02 PM

I am torn between the two. I like the black ceramic bezel and maxidial on the new sub, but I do not necessarily like the supercase. The new bracelet is not such a big draw to me. I like the maxidial on the old LV, the smaller case, the ability to swap out the bezel back and forth between black and green, and don't mind the old bracelet. Which would you choose if you had a choice?

Speed · 2 December 2010, 12:03 PM

Sounds like you want the LV.

I would go for the LV and put a black insert on it!

HL65 · 2 December 2010, 12:05 PM

That is a tough call. I like both and have both. I can tell you wearing a Sub C- a WG one- as my daily watch--I love the case and glidelock--as would you once you wore it. Personally though--I guess I would opt for a classic LV if I did not have one as you can always get a new Sub C down the road.

Art 1 · 2 December 2010, 12:10 PM

I would want the LV, that's why I have bought two now. Too many subs around here for me to want one, C or otherwise.

exchange83 · 2 December 2010, 12:45 PM

16610LV. Just love it.

Tools · 2 December 2010, 12:48 PM

It sounds like you talked me into the earlier version..............

plus I can save a thousand bucks...........

viper · 3 December 2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by exchange83

16610LV. Just love it.

agree. LV has been my daily watch for over 6 yrs now.

it just gets better the longer i own it. my favorite Rolex by far.

Wisconsin Proud · 2 December 2010, 12:57 PM

Holding the two watches in my hand confirms a more solid, heavier feel of the ceramic sub. Whether it's worth the $1400 difference is your call.

timeisfathaoftruth · 2 December 2010, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfash

I am torn between the two. I like the black ceramic bezel and maxidial on the new sub, but I do not necessarily like the supercase. The new bracelet is not such a big draw to me. I like the maxidial on the old LV, the smaller case, the ability to swap out the bezel back and forth between black and green, and don't mind the old bracelet. Which would you choose if you had a choice?

Have you seen the new green ceramic sub in person? I am wondering why you are comparing the 16610 LV with the black ceramic sub (rather than with the green ceramic)?

wokafu · 2 December 2010, 01:14 PM

Sub c....!!

wingman9x · 2 December 2010, 02:22 PM

I would go for the LV as it is a discontinued model already, while you would still be able get the sub c for many years to come.

Kanger · 2 December 2010, 02:41 PM

I love the new bracelet, so Sub C I say. And it is so darn accurate!

LostInTime · 2 December 2010, 02:50 PM

Sub LV. The design of the new Sub C is unfortunate.

cyglee · 2 December 2010, 02:54 PM

My vote goes to the LV. I really like that green against the black max-dial.

niner niner seven · 2 December 2010, 02:57 PM

Investment = LV

wearability = C

Watch Fan · 2 December 2010, 04:43 PM

I still preferr the classic Subs to the new ceramic, maxi case. Just haven't "warmed up" to the new look yet.

esm · 2 December 2010, 06:52 PM

16610LV it is for you by the sound of your first post - great watch! Can't go wring with it.

le_baroudeur · 2 December 2010, 07:25 PM

Imho: the 16610LV is the best submariner ever produced... Why? (imho)
- the most important for me: perfectly balanced case, not square
- green touch, natural and peacefull
- the only classic case (design approved over the years) with maxi dial.
- soft surface of the bezel insert, which can deliciously fade over the years
- bracelet: old one has proved its reliability.
- crown guards are slim, more aesthetical..
- already a collector, can still be found bnib !

Singslinger · 2 December 2010, 07:32 PM

A very close call, but if forced to decide, I'd pick the new Sub c because of the Glidelock bracelet and ceramic bezel.

le_baroudeur · 2 December 2010, 07:53 PM

Glidelock and ceramic change the aesthetics of the watch... But are they tougher and more reliable? Only time will tell. I think that there is no real reliability improvement, so decision must rely on visual preferences.

esm · 2 December 2010, 08:04 PM

More reliable as in...?
The ceramic insert is supposed to be more durable against fading, but not so much on the toughness (brittle comes to mind).

The glidelock clasp will probably be less "durable" because it had more moving parts?!? But it is def more functional then the fliplock and the easylink clasps.

Personally, I like both new "features" (I won't call them an improvement as yet

)

chstoft · 2 December 2010, 08:09 PM

A close call, but it seems to me that you want the LV more than you want the Sub C. Either way, good luck on finding the right one

thesmallwave · 2 December 2010, 08:11 PM

Sub C is the one you should really go for.Maxi case and maxi dial and ceramic are the best thing in a Rolex.

nauticajoe · 2 December 2010, 10:00 PM

The 16610LV's got my vote

train-time · 2 December 2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nauticajoe

The 16610LV's got my vote

X2; you can always pick up the SubC

Bullyterrier · 2 December 2010, 11:18 PM

The LV
I don't like the over sized cases on the Cerachrom's

L-16610 · 3 December 2010, 04:59 AM

do I realy need to answer ??

esm · 3 December 2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by L-16610

do I realy need to answer ??

go on - you know you want to

jeremyam · 3 December 2010, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfash

I am torn between the two. I like the black ceramic bezel and maxidial on the new sub, but I do not necessarily like the supercase. The new bracelet is not such a big draw to me. I like the maxidial on the old LV, the smaller case, the ability to swap out the bezel back and forth between black and green, and don't mind the old bracelet. Which would you choose if you had a choice?

i'd choose the lv because of the case shape and the green is slowly growing on me, one day, i'll really like it...

petesjag · 3 December 2010, 05:14 AM

I would say 16610LV...rather then the 116610LV-c because Im not keen on all that green..if you are comparing with the Black-subc then I would pick the Black because I love the look of the new Rolex subs....

2 December 2010, 12:02 PM	#1
jfash Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 48	16610LV or Sub C? I am torn between the two. I like the black ceramic bezel and maxidial on the new sub, but I do not necessarily like the supercase. The new bracelet is not such a big draw to me. I like the maxidial on the old LV, the smaller case, the ability to swap out the bezel back and forth between black and green, and don't mind the old bracelet. Which would you choose if you had a choice?

2 December 2010, 12:05 PM	#3
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,286	That is a tough call. I like both and have both. I can tell you wearing a Sub C- a WG one- as my daily watch--I love the case and glidelock--as would you once you wore it. Personally though--I guess I would opt for a classic LV if I did not have one as you can always get a new Sub C down the road. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

2 December 2010, 12:48 PM	#6
Tools TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,681	It sounds like you talked me into the earlier version.............. plus I can save a thousand bucks........... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

2 December 2010, 02:57 PM	#15
niner niner seven "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Matthew Location: Rolex&911Nation Watch: GV Posts: 547	Investment = LV wearability = C __________________ 16710 116400GV 116710LN 116500LN 116610LV

2 December 2010, 04:43 PM	#16
Watch Fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 676	I still preferr the classic Subs to the new ceramic, maxi case. Just haven't "warmed up" to the new look yet. __________________ "The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheeze."

2 December 2010, 12:03 PM	#2
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,741	Sounds like you want the LV. I would go for the LV and put a black insert on it!

2 December 2010, 12:10 PM	#4
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	I would want the LV, that's why I have bought two now. Too many subs around here for me to want one, C or otherwise.

2 December 2010, 12:45 PM	#5
exchange83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: New York Watch: Patek 5980r Posts: 489	16610LV. Just love it.

2 December 2010, 12:57 PM	#8
Wisconsin Proud Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 351	Holding the two watches in my hand confirms a more solid, heavier feel of the ceramic sub. Whether it's worth the $1400 difference is your call.

2 December 2010, 01:14 PM	#10
wokafu "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: SM300+14060M Posts: 2,012	Sub c....!!

2 December 2010, 02:22 PM	#11
wingman9x "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nakano Watch: white daytona Posts: 72	I would go for the LV as it is a discontinued model already, while you would still be able get the sub c for many years to come.

2 December 2010, 02:41 PM	#12
Kanger Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: North Carolina Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 5,524	I love the new bracelet, so Sub C I say. And it is so darn accurate!

2 December 2010, 02:50 PM	#13
LostInTime "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Is Everything Posts: 205	Sub LV. The design of the new Sub C is unfortunate.

2 December 2010, 02:54 PM	#14
cyglee "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Gordon Location: California Watch: Gmtll,LV,SD,GV,etc Posts: 627	My vote goes to the LV. I really like that green against the black max-dial.

2 December 2010, 06:52 PM	#17
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	16610LV it is for you by the sound of your first post - great watch! Can't go wring with it.

2 December 2010, 07:25 PM	#18
le_baroudeur "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rennes, FRANCE Posts: 802	Imho: the 16610LV is the best submariner ever produced... Why? (imho) - the most important for me: perfectly balanced case, not square - green touch, natural and peacefull - the only classic case (design approved over the years) with maxi dial. - soft surface of the bezel insert, which can deliciously fade over the years - bracelet: old one has proved its reliability. - crown guards are slim, more aesthetical.. - already a collector, can still be found bnib ! __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons.

2 December 2010, 07:32 PM	#19
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,425	A very close call, but if forced to decide, I'd pick the new Sub c because of the Glidelock bracelet and ceramic bezel.

2 December 2010, 07:53 PM	#20
le_baroudeur "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rennes, FRANCE Posts: 802	Glidelock and ceramic change the aesthetics of the watch... But are they tougher and more reliable? Only time will tell. I think that there is no real reliability improvement, so decision must rely on visual preferences. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons.

2 December 2010, 08:04 PM	#21
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	More reliable as in...? The ceramic insert is supposed to be more durable against fading, but not so much on the toughness (brittle comes to mind). The glidelock clasp will probably be less "durable" because it had more moving parts?!? But it is def more functional then the fliplock and the easylink clasps. Personally, I like both new "features" (I won't call them an improvement as yet )

2 December 2010, 08:09 PM	#22
chstoft "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Christian Location: Munich, Germany Watch: me Posts: 223	A close call, but it seems to me that you want the LV more than you want the Sub C. Either way, good luck on finding the right one

2 December 2010, 08:11 PM	#23
thesmallwave Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Levi Location: Romania & England Watch: Sub C Black Posts: 568	Sub C is the one you should really go for.Maxi case and maxi dial and ceramic are the best thing in a Rolex.

2 December 2010, 10:00 PM	#24
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	The 16610LV's got my vote

2 December 2010, 11:18 PM	#26
Bullyterrier "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: . Posts: 1,343	The LV I don't like the over sized cases on the Cerachrom's __________________ So Mote it be.

3 December 2010, 04:59 AM	#27
L-16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 825	do I realy need to answer ??

3 December 2010, 05:14 AM	#30
petesjag "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,177	I would say 16610LV...rather then the 116610LV-c because Im not keen on all that green..if you are comparing with the Black-subc then I would pick the Black because I love the look of the new Rolex subs....

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