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gerard88t · 3 March 2011, 12:58 PM

Guys,
I'm in a quandry with my final decision. Today a friend that I get my watches from sometimes showed me a really clean and thick cased 16800 matte dial on a near mint complete link 9315 folded bracelet with 380 ends. In return I am offering up a two tone 1601 head, a 1970 Speedmaster, Rolex USA jubilee and $1100 cash. Let's say I have around $3K in trade stuffs not counting the cash. The 16800 looks really really clean and all tritium matches. Should I go for it or keep looking? I asked him to see if he can throw in a Rolex box and he said he might have a 90s box he can give me. I had a nice 16800 before, but this one blows that one out of the water as well as this one's case is definitely not over polished at all. Oh, and I took a 93150 with 580 ends off my ND sub and was thinking to swap it to this 16800 if I buy. My sub is from 77 so I thought the 9315 stamped with code C would be a better combo for that watch. Now will the 580 ends fit the 16800??
Thanks for your help
Gerard

DoubleRedRolex · 3 March 2011, 02:33 PM

Yes the 580 ends will fit the 16800 no problem. Sounds like a good deal, and a good plan to swap the bracelets around. Post some pics after you get it!

Lonnie

Ross Povey · 3 March 2011, 04:52 PM

sounds good to me if the watch is all OK!

Ross

feilong108 · 3 March 2011, 04:56 PM

Huge congrats!!!Mine say HI to yours...

gerard88t · 3 March 2011, 05:03 PM

Thanks for the support guys.

I will check back before I go meet my friend to see what more members might add to this thread. I hope they do. And Feilong thanks for the photo. The one I plan to see again is a 7.1 million serial, whick is near the age of your cool looking 16800

JimSnyder · 3 March 2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by feilong108

Huge congrats!!!Mine say HI to yours...

Very nice

gerard88t · 4 March 2011, 05:32 AM

Okay so I made the deal and I am happy with the whole thing. I took off the 9315 with 380 ends and put it on the 5513 (now it looks and feels so period correct), then until I get the correct 593 ends for my 93150, I put the 16800 on a real Tropic black strap for now. I can make fast pictures now or nice ones later when I have time. I'm thinking best of the latter. This 16800 is remarkably super clean with intact, even, light cream tritium all around, even to the dot sitting in the insert cup. Dial is excellent as well as hands with zero corrosion anywhere. The crown guards are nice and thick like from the factory and if it was polished in its life, I don't think it was done more than once(okay, maybe twice, but professionally and minimally). The selling point to me is a thick case

The sapphire crystal is like new and the crown is smooth with three turns til stopping to close. Bezel is buttery smooth with 120 clicks in one direction. Basically it's the 16800 I wanted since I ever owned one in the past and in a nutshell, it's a keeper for the collection.

Thanks to you that gave me the positive

to go ahead with the deal!
Gerard

feilong108 · 3 March 2011, 05:09 PM

Hope to see the wonderful pictures of your 16800 real soon!!!

Jason71 · 4 March 2011, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by feilong108

Hope to see the wonderful pictures of your 16800 real soon!!!

Your bezel insert is OUTSTANDING

feilong108 · 4 March 2011, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason71

Your bezel insert is OUTSTANDING

Thank you Sir for your kind comment!!!!

Ross Povey · 4 March 2011, 05:18 AM

Matte 16800 (ex Mike Wood watch) enjoy yours!!

Ross :)

feilong108 · 4 March 2011, 05:46 AM

Congrats to you Gerard!!!!

awaiting for your pictures!

Tools · 4 March 2011, 06:33 AM

Sounds like a great score......

I'm envious..

gerard88t · 4 March 2011, 11:03 AM

At work and made a quick cell phone pic - but I can't post from my phone!

gerard88t · 4 March 2011, 06:01 PM

I finally got to home to show the picture I made at work using my cell phones camera, and I found I had to wait even longer to post it due to the site was being updated! Anyway, here is a pic I made because I couldn't wait to get opinions from you guys before I find time to make high res ones later. Ignore the marks on crystal(dirt from work) What do you think? Keeps excellent time to boot!

GeorgeK · 4 March 2011, 06:14 PM

The perfect Sub. Vintage dial with saphire glass. Wear it any day, every day.
Somehow it looks better on a non-oyster band.

And, wait 2 days for the open 6. That will make your day!

gerard88t · 5 March 2011, 01:55 AM

Thanks. I feel that it does look better on this strap too. I still have the 93150 to install once I get the correct end-links, but I may just keep the watch as is for awhile. To me it looks more unique with the tropic for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeK

The perfect Sub. Vintage dial with saphire glass. Wear it any day, every day.
Somehow it looks better on a non-oyster band.

And, wait 2 days for the open 6. That will make your day!

feilong108 · 4 March 2011, 06:42 PM

Very beautiful 16800....with even patina on dial and hands too!

Your hands seem to be in tip top condition !

gerard88t · 5 March 2011, 02:01 AM

Thanks. I believe there are several possibilities with the history of the watch. One idea is it was serviced regularly and it may have had a service when tritium hands were still available. Or the prior owner sourced NOS tritium hands. Or the watch was not worn regularly and kept clean and dry with careful services. I really have no clue why the hands are so corrosion free except for these ideas. I also noted how much blacker the whole dial is over all the other 16800's I've held or saw pics of.The font on dial is clear and bright too. I'm beyond happy with it

I love it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by feilong108

Very beautiful 16800....with even patina on dial and hands too!

Your hands seem to be in tip top condition !

newsboy · 5 March 2011, 06:43 AM

Here's mine

gerard88t · 5 March 2011, 05:36 PM

To the guys that posted pics of their 16800, they look great and thanks for adding them to the thread.

The 16800 is quite an endearing piece.

SS Oyster · 5 March 2011, 06:17 PM

Beautiful Subs guys ... I'm gonna need to pick one of these up.

lhanddds · 6 March 2011, 01:18 AM

That is a stunning watch, love the patina, really like it on that strap, congrats

gerard88t · 6 March 2011, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lhanddds

That is a stunning watch, love the patina, really like it on that strap, congrats

Thank you. But now after seeing Newsboy's photo of the 16800 on bracelet, I'm swayed to put mine on one now

I had this tropic in the drawer for a couple years and always intended it for one of my subs but always went with their oyster bands in the end. This 16800 is the first of all my subs that looks cool on the tropic. I don't know why that is; maybe the combination of vintage matte and new case/crystal designs? It just seems to work best strapped to this 16800 in my eyes. The oysters, like on Newsboys and Ross' pieces give the watch a more classic cue and they present robust yet still charming

newsboy · 6 March 2011, 01:51 AM

Another shot!

3 March 2011, 12:58 PM	#1
gerard88t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ask Posts: 409	Need help making 16800 buy tomorrow! Guys, I'm in a quandry with my final decision. Today a friend that I get my watches from sometimes showed me a really clean and thick cased 16800 matte dial on a near mint complete link 9315 folded bracelet with 380 ends. In return I am offering up a two tone 1601 head, a 1970 Speedmaster, Rolex USA jubilee and $1100 cash. Let's say I have around $3K in trade stuffs not counting the cash. The 16800 looks really really clean and all tritium matches. Should I go for it or keep looking? I asked him to see if he can throw in a Rolex box and he said he might have a 90s box he can give me. I had a nice 16800 before, but this one blows that one out of the water as well as this one's case is definitely not over polished at all. Oh, and I took a 93150 with 580 ends off my ND sub and was thinking to swap it to this 16800 if I buy. My sub is from 77 so I thought the 9315 stamped with code C would be a better combo for that watch. Now will the 580 ends fit the 16800?? Thanks for your help Gerard Last edited by gerard88t; 3 March 2011 at 01:47 PM.. Reason: add to titile

3 March 2011, 04:52 PM	#3
Ross Povey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: UK Posts: 125	So all in it's going to cost you $4.1k..... sounds good to me if the watch is all OK! Ross

3 March 2011, 04:56 PM	#4
feilong108 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Eugene Location: Singapore Watch: Year 1981 5513 Posts: 125	Huge congrats!!!Mine say HI to yours... __________________ Mini Grail attained: Rolex 5513 Matte Mark2 Dial Card-carrying member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons

3 March 2011, 05:09 PM	#8
feilong108 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Eugene Location: Singapore Watch: Year 1981 5513 Posts: 125	Hope to see the wonderful pictures of your 16800 real soon!!! __________________ Mini Grail attained: Rolex 5513 Matte Mark2 Dial Card-carrying member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons

4 March 2011, 05:18 AM	#11
Ross Povey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: UK Posts: 125	Here's mine from '83..... Matte 16800 (ex Mike Wood watch) enjoy yours!! Ross :)

3 March 2011, 02:33 PM	#2
DoubleRedRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Lonnie Location: Canada Watch: Rolex 1680-8 Posts: 80	Yes the 580 ends will fit the 16800 no problem. Sounds like a good deal, and a good plan to swap the bracelets around. Post some pics after you get it! Lonnie

3 March 2011, 05:03 PM	#5
gerard88t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ask Posts: 409	Thanks for the support guys. I will check back before I go meet my friend to see what more members might add to this thread. I hope they do. And Feilong thanks for the photo. The one I plan to see again is a 7.1 million serial, whick is near the age of your cool looking 16800

4 March 2011, 05:32 AM	#7
gerard88t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ask Posts: 409	Okay so I made the deal and I am happy with the whole thing. I took off the 9315 with 380 ends and put it on the 5513 (now it looks and feels so period correct), then until I get the correct 593 ends for my 93150, I put the 16800 on a real Tropic black strap for now. I can make fast pictures now or nice ones later when I have time. I'm thinking best of the latter. This 16800 is remarkably super clean with intact, even, light cream tritium all around, even to the dot sitting in the insert cup. Dial is excellent as well as hands with zero corrosion anywhere. The crown guards are nice and thick like from the factory and if it was polished in its life, I don't think it was done more than once(okay, maybe twice, but professionally and minimally). The selling point to me is a thick case The sapphire crystal is like new and the crown is smooth with three turns til stopping to close. Bezel is buttery smooth with 120 clicks in one direction. Basically it's the 16800 I wanted since I ever owned one in the past and in a nutshell, it's a keeper for the collection. Thanks to you that gave me the positive to go ahead with the deal! Gerard

4 March 2011, 05:46 AM	#12
feilong108 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Eugene Location: Singapore Watch: Year 1981 5513 Posts: 125	Congrats to you Gerard!!!! awaiting for your pictures! __________________ Mini Grail attained: Rolex 5513 Matte Mark2 Dial Card-carrying member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons

4 March 2011, 06:33 AM	#13
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,490	Sounds like a great score...... I'm envious.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

4 March 2011, 11:03 AM	#14
gerard88t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ask Posts: 409	At work and made a quick cell phone pic - but I can't post from my phone!

4 March 2011, 06:14 PM	#16
GeorgeK "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Alps Posts: 408	The perfect Sub. Vintage dial with saphire glass. Wear it any day, every day. Somehow it looks better on a non-oyster band. And, wait 2 days for the open 6. That will make your day!

4 March 2011, 06:42 PM	#18
feilong108 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Eugene Location: Singapore Watch: Year 1981 5513 Posts: 125	Very beautiful 16800....with even patina on dial and hands too! Your hands seem to be in tip top condition ! __________________ Mini Grail attained: Rolex 5513 Matte Mark2 Dial Card-carrying member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons

5 March 2011, 05:36 PM	#21
gerard88t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ask Posts: 409	To the guys that posted pics of their 16800, they look great and thanks for adding them to the thread. The 16800 is quite an endearing piece.

5 March 2011, 06:17 PM	#22
SS Oyster 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,189	Beautiful Subs guys ... I'm gonna need to pick one of these up.

6 March 2011, 01:18 AM	#23
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	That is a stunning watch, love the patina, really like it on that strap, congrats

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