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TheVTCGuy · 17 May 2011, 02:58 PM

Ok, we can all blame Otto for starting this rumor... (the Bastid!

) And Bill (Speedy) is probably right that it's a bunch of

But let's look at it with an open mind.

The 42 MM suprised everyone at Basil, Rolex already had a 40MM EXP II, AND a 39, yet they come out with a new size. Rolex already has a 40MM GMT, why is it so far-fetched to believe they would release a 42? The Old EX II and GMT shared the same movement, the 3186, they can also share the 3187 if a 42 MM GMT is released. And can't the GMT and EXP II use the same case? Isn't the only difference the (rotating) bezel?

Granted, I don't know about the AG and TT models.... But is it really such a stretch to think they couldn't come out with a 42 GMT?

dalip · 17 May 2011, 03:34 PM

I think it's too soon to do such an upgrade Paul. The GMT2C is still pretty new in relationship to the Explorer series. The current GMT has the newer case and really led the way for the Sub to follow. The only update I see for a while is maybe to the clasp.

Singslinger · 17 May 2011, 06:30 PM

Agree with Dalip. I'm guessing it'll be many years before Rolex tinkers with the GMT IIc, if ever.

ally · 17 May 2011, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalip

I think it's too soon to do such an upgrade Paul. The GMT2C is still pretty new in relationship to the Explorer series. The current GMT has the newer case and really led the way for the Sub to follow. The only update I see for a while is maybe to the clasp.

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roger0770 · 17 May 2011, 06:55 PM

it's very possible giving the recent introduction of bigger sized watches (day-date ii, datejust ii, 39mm explorer, and now the 42mm explorer 2). however, i highly doubt rolex is going to update the gmt2c anytime soon. perhaps in 40 years?

The GMT Master · 17 May 2011, 06:39 PM

I believe the change in case sizes in the Explorer range was to make them more saleable. The biggest problems that the old Explorer and Explorer II faced was conflict with similar models - the 36mm Explorer had to compete with the 36mm Oyster Perpetual, a watch that was cheaper, yet had the improved bracelet, whilst the 40mm Explorer II was always in the shadow of the 16710. The new models stand out - there's nothing directly comparable to them now. It would be a bit silly to introduce a GMT in the 42mm case size, as it'll be the same problem again - too much conflict. A very clever move from Rolex, if you ask me

esm · 17 May 2011, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

The 42 MM suprised everyone at Basil

really?

wasnt it that Rolex just wanted to fill the size gap...

39mm EXPI
40mm old and new Sports models
41mm DJII/DDII
42mm EXPII

43/44mm DSSD (in the early days wasnt it was quoted a 44mm watch?)

me thinks thsi next "new" size will either be a 38mm (updated DJ models) or 44mm/45mm (updated DSSD?!?) from mr. Rolex

and.... Basil?!?

swatty · 17 May 2011, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esm

really?

wasnt it that Rolex just wanted to fill the size gap...

39mm EXPI
40mm old and new Sports models
41mm DJII/DDII
42mm EXPII

43/44mm DSSD (in the early days wasnt it was quoted a 44mm watch?)

me thinks thsi next "new" size will either be a 38mm (updated DJ models) or 44mm/45mm (updated DSSD?!?) from mr. Rolex

and.... Basil?!?

Do you think Paul meant Basel ?

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Otto · 17 May 2011, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Ok, we can all blame Otto for starting this rumor... (the Bastid!

) And Bill (Speedy) is probably right that it's a bunch of

But let's look at it with an open mind.

The 42 MM suprised everyone at Basil, Rolex already had a 40MM EXP II, AND a 39, yet they come out with a new size. Rolex already has a 40MM GMT, why is it so far-fetched to believe they would release a 42? The Old EX II and GMT shared the same movement, the 3186, they can also share the 3187 if a 42 MM GMT is released. And can't the GMT and EXP II use the same case? Isn't the only difference the (rotating) bezel?

Granted, I don't know about the AG and TT models.... But is it really such a stretch to think they couldn't come out with a 42 GMT?

I started a rumor???

My 40 mm GMTII is really big enough!

esm · 17 May 2011, 09:38 PM

Maybe he is in a "nesting" mood....

TheVTCGuy · 17 May 2011, 09:48 PM

"Basil" is the American spelling .. ... ...

xjeeunitx · 17 May 2011, 10:28 PM

I think it's way too early for them to come out with a new 42mm GMT. Maybe in three years or so but Rolex is not the type to come out with changes like that so fast... Just my 2 cents!

TheDude · 17 May 2011, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger0770

... perhaps in 40 years?

I know you were exaggerating, but of all the sport models coming to mind, the GMT has had more upheaval and change than most if not all the others. While unlikely, a major change within the next 5 years would not be without precedent.

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RobY330i · 27 May 2011, 03:13 AM

I'd buy a 42" GMT-C.

They would also need to make the GMT hand more visible at night.

Not easy to read in the dark, on the tarmac of a third world airport.

Speed · 27 May 2011, 03:44 AM

I think we will see a 40mm Ceramic Pepsi before we see a 42mm super duper sized GMTIIC.

Come on Paul...haven't you lost enough weight to "win" that Coke your boss promised you? ;-)

brian8121 · 12 June 2012, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

I think we will see a 40mm Ceramic Pepsi before we see a 42mm super duper sized GMTIIC.

This x 100

Puffy · 27 May 2011, 05:43 AM

Basil?

Did you mean Basildon?

Speed · 27 May 2011, 06:15 AM

Perhaps he meant Basil Fawlty???

mike · 27 May 2011, 07:05 AM

I have no idea if they will or won't, but consider rather quick changes (by Rolex standards) are not unknown.

As an example the 16760 only lasted a few years before the advent of the 16710.

Early divers went through a bunch of changes as they evolved.

You never know.

Kingair · 10 June 2012, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Perhaps he meant Basil Fawlty???

It has to be him !

HAGWe

FNFZ4 · 10 June 2012, 10:52 AM

I believe they will. They will also change the lume on the new GMTC when they decide to do an upgrade.

CLRBLULITE · 10 June 2012, 01:42 PM

I say it's about time!

joe100 · 10 June 2012, 01:52 PM

40mm is perfect. Don't mess with a good thing

George Ab · 10 June 2012, 03:28 PM

The 42mm GMT is called the Explorer II. I love that watch.

I don't see it happening as the GMT II wears larger then its 40mm size.

jay_kay · 10 June 2012, 04:20 PM

I honestly believe that they won't change the size of the GMT but they will release it with the ceracrom Pepsi and Coke bezels in the next couple of years!

FNFZ4 · 10 June 2012, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jay_kay

I honestly believe that they won't change the size of the GMT but they will release it with the ceracrom Pepsi and Coke bezels in the next couple of years!

makes sense to me... with the GMTIIC I only wish they upgrade the Lume and it would be perfect.

SeaDweller50 · 11 June 2012, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNFZ4

makes sense to me... with the GMTIIC I only wish they upgrade the Lume and it would be perfect.

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zeuloa · 10 June 2012, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the gmt master

i believe the change in case sizes in the explorer range was to make them more saleable. The biggest problems that the old explorer and explorer ii faced was conflict with similar models - the 36mm explorer had to compete with the 36mm oyster perpetual, a watch that was cheaper, yet had the improved bracelet, whilst the 40mm explorer ii was always in the shadow of the 16710. The new models stand out - there's nothing directly comparable to them now. It would be a bit silly to introduce a gmt in the 42mm case size, as it'll be the same problem again - too much conflict. A very clever move from rolex, if you ask me

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al_bongo · 11 June 2012, 01:31 AM

Seems to me Rolex have moved away from a standard core spec for their sports models and are comfortable with minor variations in size/shape/hand size within the range.

The last release but one, prior to the Exp II, was the sub date 11610 which has a smaller dimension case. In short I don't see them standardising the range around the new size Exp II.

capote · 11 June 2012, 01:36 AM

I too think its too early for a new version of the GMT2-c. Not everybody has bought the new one yet

17 May 2011, 02:58 PM	#1
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	42MM GMT, Is it really so far-fetched? Ok, we can all blame Otto for starting this rumor... (the Bastid! ) And Bill (Speedy) is probably right that it's a bunch of But let's look at it with an open mind. The 42 MM suprised everyone at Basil, Rolex already had a 40MM EXP II, AND a 39, yet they come out with a new size. Rolex already has a 40MM GMT, why is it so far-fetched to believe they would release a 42? The Old EX II and GMT shared the same movement, the 3186, they can also share the 3187 if a 42 MM GMT is released. And can't the GMT and EXP II use the same case? Isn't the only difference the (rotating) bezel? Granted, I don't know about the AG and TT models.... But is it really such a stretch to think they couldn't come out with a 42 GMT?

17 May 2011, 03:34 PM	#2
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	I think it's too soon to do such an upgrade Paul. The GMT2C is still pretty new in relationship to the Explorer series. The current GMT has the newer case and really led the way for the Sub to follow. The only update I see for a while is maybe to the clasp. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

27 May 2011, 05:43 AM	#17
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	Basil? Did you mean Basildon? __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

10 June 2012, 10:52 AM	#21
FNFZ4 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Alfred Location: DC Metro Watch: None Posts: 29,368	I believe they will. They will also change the lume on the new GMTC when they decide to do an upgrade. __________________ NEED PC HELP? ASK HERE! Watches: Patek 5205G \| Patek 5167A \| 16613 Serti \| 116718 Green \| 216570 Black \| 16700 Pepsi Wish list: Patek 5726/1 \| AP RG Ceramic \| Patek 5712 \| Patek 5130

10 June 2012, 03:28 PM	#24
George Ab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: George Location: Seattle Watch: One of Them Posts: 6,924	The 42mm GMT is called the Explorer II. I love that watch. I don't see it happening as the GMT II wears larger then its 40mm size. __________________

17 May 2011, 06:30 PM	#3
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	Agree with Dalip. I'm guessing it'll be many years before Rolex tinkers with the GMT IIc, if ever.

17 May 2011, 06:55 PM	#5
roger0770 Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: On Earth Watch: A Few Posts: 1,510	it's very possible giving the recent introduction of bigger sized watches (day-date ii, datejust ii, 39mm explorer, and now the 42mm explorer 2). however, i highly doubt rolex is going to update the gmt2c anytime soon. perhaps in 40 years?

17 May 2011, 06:39 PM	#6
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	I believe the change in case sizes in the Explorer range was to make them more saleable. The biggest problems that the old Explorer and Explorer II faced was conflict with similar models - the 36mm Explorer had to compete with the 36mm Oyster Perpetual, a watch that was cheaper, yet had the improved bracelet, whilst the 40mm Explorer II was always in the shadow of the 16710. The new models stand out - there's nothing directly comparable to them now. It would be a bit silly to introduce a GMT in the 42mm case size, as it'll be the same problem again - too much conflict. A very clever move from Rolex, if you ask me

17 May 2011, 09:38 PM	#10
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	Maybe he is in a "nesting" mood....

17 May 2011, 09:48 PM	#11
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	"Basil" is the American spelling .. ... ...

17 May 2011, 10:28 PM	#12
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,477	I think it's way too early for them to come out with a new 42mm GMT. Maybe in three years or so but Rolex is not the type to come out with changes like that so fast... Just my 2 cents!

27 May 2011, 03:13 AM	#14
RobY330i "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Robert Location: Ottawa Watch: SS GMT IIc "V" Posts: 97	I'd buy a 42" GMT-C. They would also need to make the GMT hand more visible at night. Not easy to read in the dark, on the tarmac of a third world airport.

27 May 2011, 03:44 AM	#15
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	I think we will see a 40mm Ceramic Pepsi before we see a 42mm super duper sized GMTIIC. Come on Paul...haven't you lost enough weight to "win" that Coke your boss promised you? ;-)

27 May 2011, 06:15 AM	#18
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Perhaps he meant Basil Fawlty???

27 May 2011, 07:05 AM	#19
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	I have no idea if they will or won't, but consider rather quick changes (by Rolex standards) are not unknown. As an example the 16760 only lasted a few years before the advent of the 16710. Early divers went through a bunch of changes as they evolved. You never know.

10 June 2012, 01:42 PM	#22
CLRBLULITE Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: Midwest Watch: DSSD Posts: 191	I say it's about time!

10 June 2012, 01:52 PM	#23
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,838	40mm is perfect. Don't mess with a good thing

10 June 2012, 04:20 PM	#25
jay_kay "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barrowford Watch: Tudor Black Bay 54 Posts: 1,699	I honestly believe that they won't change the size of the GMT but they will release it with the ceracrom Pepsi and Coke bezels in the next couple of years! __________________ Rolex Explorer 214270, Omega Speedmaster '1957 Relaunch' 3594.50.00, Panerai Luminor 1950 PAM00127-E, Panerai Radiomir 1936 PAM00249-I, Panerai Mare Nostrum PAM00716-T, Panerai PAM00785-Q Set, Panerai Luminor Black Seal PAM00594-Q, Panerai Luminor Daylight PAM00604-Q, Tudor Black Bay 54 79000N, Heuer Carrera Re-Edition CS3113, Hamilton Military W10 & TAG Heuer F1

11 June 2012, 01:31 AM	#29
al_bongo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 444	Seems to me Rolex have moved away from a standard core spec for their sports models and are comfortable with minor variations in size/shape/hand size within the range. The last release but one, prior to the Exp II, was the sub date 11610 which has a smaller dimension case. In short I don't see them standardising the range around the new size Exp II.

11 June 2012, 01:36 AM	#30
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I too think its too early for a new version of the GMT2-c. Not everybody has bought the new one yet

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