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jamesbondOO7 · 2 October 2011, 05:42 PM

Why is the new Explorer II not called 116570?

thewatchguy93 · 2 October 2011, 06:01 PM

I wonder the same?

Lol-x · 2 October 2011, 06:02 PM

New movement & case size = new generation = 2

TSW · 2 October 2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lol-x

new movement & case size = new generation = 2

x2

padi56 · 3 October 2011, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lol-x

New movement & case size = new generation = 2

Well new case yes but hardly a new movement its just mainly 3185 based, with a bit of 3186 then add the inhouse shock system and now call it a 3187.

jamesbondOO7 · 2 October 2011, 06:07 PM

The recent Old Explorer II also received a new movement (3186) and the reference number did not change.

steubi1 · 2 October 2011, 06:10 PM

Because it prepares the ground for 216610, the new Sub 42mm with the new Explorer case? (And the same for the GMT...)

Who knows...

Tom

PAKLOKKEI · 2 October 2011, 06:09 PM

because the case size was increased to 42mm ?

jamesbondOO7 · 2 October 2011, 06:11 PM

Like for the Explorer I. Makes sense.

jamesbondOO7 · 2 October 2011, 06:15 PM

Sorry, I missed the new case size in lol-x post.

dddrees · 2 October 2011, 09:06 PM

Because Rolex decided to use 216570 and not 116570.

jamesbondOO7 · 2 October 2011, 11:39 PM

The DJ II is still a 1, although they increased the case size.

dddrees · 2 October 2011, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

The DJ II is still a 1, although they increased the case size.

I know, that's why I say it just appears as Rolex decided to go a different route. Who knows what the reason is, except they decided to do this one differently.

esm · 2 October 2011, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

The DJ II is still a 1, although they increased the case size.

i believe that the combination of the new case size and new movement warrants the "2" model number designation

jamesbondOO7 · 3 October 2011, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by esm

i believe that the combination of the new case size and new movement warrants the "2" model number designation

The DJ II is the same movement as the DJ? i don't know much about movements, but I would have thought that if the case is of a different size, it has to be another movement?

TTmax · 3 October 2011, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

The DJ II is the same movement as the DJ? i don't know much about movements, but I would have thought that if the case is of a different size, it has to be another movement?

We call it DJ II, but on the dial it's still DateJust, not II.

Soon or later DJ 41mm will stay the only DJ in catalog, so it makes sense to keep the same number than DJ 36mm (DJ II is 1163xx, DJ 36 is 1161xx or 1162xx).

Just my 2 cents.

Michael M. · 3 October 2011, 01:15 AM

I agree with LOL-X

BTW: If they have a new SS Daytona, it's probably going to be called a 216520!

2 October 2011, 05:42 PM	#1
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Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,555	New movement & case size = new generation = 2 __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

2 October 2011, 06:07 PM	#6
jamesbondOO7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: BondJamesBond Location: The Algarve Watch: Rolex or nothing Posts: 4,073	The recent Old Explorer II also received a new movement (3186) and the reference number did not change. __________________ ♛ 5-digit Rolex or nothing ♛

2 October 2011, 06:09 PM	#8
PAKLOKKEI "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 158	because the case size was increased to 42mm ? __________________ 116660 serial G 116520 White serial M 116400GV serial V 3570.50 Speedy Pro

2 October 2011, 06:10 PM	#7
steubi1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: Switzerland Watch: too many Posts: 1,150	Because it prepares the ground for 216610, the new Sub 42mm with the new Explorer case? (And the same for the GMT...) Who knows... Tom

2 October 2011, 06:11 PM	#9
jamesbondOO7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: BondJamesBond Location: The Algarve Watch: Rolex or nothing Posts: 4,073	Like for the Explorer I. Makes sense. __________________ ♛ 5-digit Rolex or nothing ♛

2 October 2011, 06:15 PM	#10
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2 October 2011, 09:06 PM	#11
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2 October 2011, 11:39 PM	#12
jamesbondOO7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: BondJamesBond Location: The Algarve Watch: Rolex or nothing Posts: 4,073	The DJ II is still a 1, although they increased the case size. __________________ ♛ 5-digit Rolex or nothing ♛

3 October 2011, 01:15 AM	#17
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	I agree with LOL-X BTW: If they have a new SS Daytona, it's probably going to be called a 216520!

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