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Polarexplorer · 5 October 2011, 03:16 PM

Hello Rolex Forum Members,
I already have a lovely Rolex Explorer II with polar dial.

I am looking for a special watch for myself -something that is special to me and something I can be content with. Will this watch collecting sickness ever end?

I have decided on either a Pre-Owned Patek Philippe or a Rolex Day Date President.

Thinking of a Patek Calatrava in hopefully white gold (but yellow is fine) or a Yellow Gold President - probably 18238 with no diamonds.

I saw a beautiful Calatrava 5127 a short time ago.... hopefully something like that.

Should I walk on the Patek side?

I know this is a Rolex forum however I do believe members here are truthful.

The only concern is the cost of Patek Philippe servicing.

Gary1407 · 5 October 2011, 03:31 PM

if its a 6000R or G then I would go for the patek if not , get the DD

zeuloa · 5 October 2011, 03:33 PM

I think I would go for the 5127 in white or rose gold.

perpetualman88 · 5 October 2011, 03:39 PM

I am currently wrestling with the same problem except I am looking at a patek 5127j or a DDII YG. I cant decide between the two so maybe this thread will help us decide

beaglehusky · 5 October 2011, 04:06 PM

Patek.

And no, the collecting sickness is never going away. You'll likely end up getting both.

TSW · 5 October 2011, 04:12 PM

DD for me!

kilyung · 5 October 2011, 04:13 PM

I'd recommend getting a 5296 or 5127. Service costs on non-complicated (not counting second and date functions) watches aren't so bad.

Longhorn · 5 October 2011, 04:17 PM

Patek definitely. If you're collecting, you can get away with not having a day date if you have the Calatrava, but if you have the day date, you know you'll eventually go for it. Why wait if you can swing it now?

Grumpy Badger · 5 October 2011, 05:52 PM

Without a seconds hesitation I'd go for a Calatrava.

To me the DD has a bit of an identity crisis... It's considered a "dress" watch but, IMO, they cyclops, full size second hand, day/date complication and the chunkiness of the oyster case mean it is FAR from a dress watch.

I want a Calatrava as my dress watch to compliment my everyday/sports Rolex. Personal preference is for the yellow Gold since it will match my signet ring, cufflinks and shirt studs and is, IMO, a bit more classic. I'm not a fan of yellow gold watches in general but with a white dial, black strap there is very little on show and, to me, the white gold is kind of lost against the White face.

BeekerMuppet · 5 October 2011, 07:24 PM

Go with the Calatrava 5127. It's an awesome timepiece.

Java · 5 October 2011, 07:31 PM

DD

I am personally not a lover of PP , or any other watch that thinks it is cool to beat at under 28800.

Chris in Melbourne · 5 October 2011, 07:55 PM

Ebruner · 5 October 2011, 08:16 PM

DD all day, IMHO the Patek is a girly man's watch.

-Eddie

Darlinboy · 5 October 2011, 08:37 PM

Both nice, good luck picking.

SWIMPRUF · 5 October 2011, 08:41 PM

Day-Date.

dddrees · 5 October 2011, 08:44 PM

Either way you can't go wrong.

capote · 5 October 2011, 09:07 PM

Quite different all together. In a way you pay more for the gold when chosing a DD, with a Patek you pay more for the movement and finish IMO (and of course you pay the most for the name on the dial). For a dress watch I prefer the Calatrava, the DD is kind of casual with the oystercase - if you can call a solid gold watch casual. 5127 also has a crown guard which is odd but gives it a more contemporary look.

You should also check out Vacheron Constantin's patrimony line, some stunning watches too.

newrolexman · 5 October 2011, 09:30 PM

Put them side by side, compare the astectics hands down winner DD

vette boy 52 · 5 October 2011, 09:33 PM

OK for me the DDII platimum with diamond dial. Calatrava is too small for my wrist. Having said that I am looking for a simple thin dress watch and have been looking at the automatic Piaget Altiplano as it is 42 mm. It currently holds the worlds records for the thinest automatic movement and watch.

chazha · 5 October 2011, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebruner

DD all day, IMHO the Patek is a girly man's watch.

-Eddie

Roflmao!!!!!"

I just dont feel that I get anything for the money I put down for a PP when comparing a chunk of gold Day Date. :) maybe Im too cheap but I vote for Rolex!!!

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Dickson Lim · 5 October 2011, 09:53 PM

Slight winner for Patek. But I am sure you won't be wrong with the DD.

tomchicago · 5 October 2011, 10:54 PM

How about a 118239 or 118209 (white gold) DD ? White gold DD very special watch that you don't have to fuss with manual winding nor be terrified that bashing it into a door jamb (which will inevitably happen eventually) will completely ruin the watch. The trusted sellers right here on the forum can source these for you nicely.

slcbbrown · 5 October 2011, 11:02 PM

Both great choices but completely different watches. You can do anything but dive with a DD, while the Caltrava is strictly an office/dress watch. I like both watches and don't own either.

daunwaun · 5 October 2011, 11:28 PM

DD for me!

p_mcgee · 5 October 2011, 11:29 PM

Tough choice, but Patek

I own a 5196R...not the least bit blingy or noticeable, but I'd sell all my other watches before parting with that one.

Keeperoftime · 6 October 2011, 12:11 AM

I have found, as a whole, cooler people wear Rolex. I like both brands...just saying. The Day-Date is beautiful. But Patek is more "Stealth-Wealth"

ktmd · 6 October 2011, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeperoftime

I have found, as a whole, cooler people wear Rolex. I like both brands...just saying. The Day-Date is beautiful. But Patek is more "Stealth-Wealth"

Stealth wealth is much cooler IMO than deliberately dressing to impress. To each his own, I guess.

capote · 6 October 2011, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktmd

Stealth wealth is much cooler IMO than deliberately dressing to impress. To each his own, I guess.

x11

rossi46 · 6 October 2011, 12:59 AM

An odd comparison, this. Do you want a dress watch? Or just a "special" watch?

If dress, then clearly the PP. Something special you can keep forever and wear with anything, go DD.

bigrustypig · 6 October 2011, 01:20 AM

Depends on your lifestyle. All things equal, I'd go Patek.

5 October 2011, 03:16 PM	#1
Polarexplorer Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Milton Posts: 39	Patek Calatrava or Day Date? Hello Rolex Forum Members, I already have a lovely Rolex Explorer II with polar dial. I am looking for a special watch for myself -something that is special to me and something I can be content with. Will this watch collecting sickness ever end? I have decided on either a Pre-Owned Patek Philippe or a Rolex Day Date President. Thinking of a Patek Calatrava in hopefully white gold (but yellow is fine) or a Yellow Gold President - probably 18238 with no diamonds. I saw a beautiful Calatrava 5127 a short time ago.... hopefully something like that. Should I walk on the Patek side? I know this is a Rolex forum however I do believe members here are truthful. The only concern is the cost of Patek Philippe servicing.

5 October 2011, 03:31 PM	#2
Gary1407 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Gary Location: Moscow Russia Watch: RRR,PP,VC etc Posts: 110	if its a 6000R or G then I would go for the patek if not , get the DD __________________ RRR,PP,VC,Zenith

5 October 2011, 03:39 PM	#4
perpetualman88 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,266	I am currently wrestling with the same problem except I am looking at a patek 5127j or a DDII YG. I cant decide between the two so maybe this thread will help us decide __________________ Instagram: @SwissWatchTime

5 October 2011, 04:12 PM	#6
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	DD for me! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

5 October 2011, 05:52 PM	#9
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	Without a seconds hesitation I'd go for a Calatrava. To me the DD has a bit of an identity crisis... It's considered a "dress" watch but, IMO, they cyclops, full size second hand, day/date complication and the chunkiness of the oyster case mean it is FAR from a dress watch. I want a Calatrava as my dress watch to compliment my everyday/sports Rolex. Personal preference is for the yellow Gold since it will match my signet ring, cufflinks and shirt studs and is, IMO, a bit more classic. I'm not a fan of yellow gold watches in general but with a white dial, black strap there is very little on show and, to me, the white gold is kind of lost against the White face. __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

5 October 2011, 03:33 PM	#3
zeuloa "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jose Location: Here Watch: SEA-DWELLER Posts: 2,232	I think I would go for the 5127 in white or rose gold.

5 October 2011, 04:06 PM	#5
beaglehusky "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Adrian Location: Tanzania Posts: 1,554	Patek. And no, the collecting sickness is never going away. You'll likely end up getting both.

5 October 2011, 04:13 PM	#7
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,950	I'd recommend getting a 5296 or 5127. Service costs on non-complicated (not counting second and date functions) watches aren't so bad.

5 October 2011, 04:17 PM	#8
Longhorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Austin, Texas Watch: HULK SMASH Posts: 584	Patek definitely. If you're collecting, you can get away with not having a day date if you have the Calatrava, but if you have the day date, you know you'll eventually go for it. Why wait if you can swing it now?

5 October 2011, 07:24 PM	#10
BeekerMuppet "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Yuri Location: NL Watch: 14000M, 16570 Posts: 574	Go with the Calatrava 5127. It's an awesome timepiece. __________________ (Wearing) First Luxury Watch: Seiko Kinetic Arctura 5M42-0E39 & First Rolex: Air King 14000M Black dial (K) & Second Rolex: Explorer II 16570 White dial (V) (Saving for) Grand Seiko SBGH015J1

5 October 2011, 07:31 PM	#11
Java "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Tim Location: Bangkok Watch: Lots Posts: 521	DD I am personally not a lover of PP , or any other watch that thinks it is cool to beat at under 28800. __________________ You don't buy a great watch to tell the time, any more than you would buy a fast car because you're in a hurry.

5 October 2011, 07:55 PM	#12
Chris in Melbourne "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 213	Easy, DD

5 October 2011, 08:16 PM	#13
Ebruner "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Eddie Location: Kentucky Watch: 118208 Posts: 2,510	DD all day, IMHO the Patek is a girly man's watch. -Eddie __________________

5 October 2011, 08:37 PM	#14
Darlinboy 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: DB Location: :noitacoL Watch: :hctaW Posts: 6,703	Both nice, good luck picking. __________________ Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.

5 October 2011, 08:41 PM	#15
SWIMPRUF "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: * Posts: 2,323	Day-Date. __________________ Member# 52,675 Est. 3/2011

5 October 2011, 08:44 PM	#16
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,258	Either way you can't go wrong. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

5 October 2011, 09:07 PM	#17
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	Quite different all together. In a way you pay more for the gold when chosing a DD, with a Patek you pay more for the movement and finish IMO (and of course you pay the most for the name on the dial). For a dress watch I prefer the Calatrava, the DD is kind of casual with the oystercase - if you can call a solid gold watch casual. 5127 also has a crown guard which is odd but gives it a more contemporary look. You should also check out Vacheron Constantin's patrimony line, some stunning watches too.

5 October 2011, 09:30 PM	#18
newrolexman Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CA Posts: 1,083	Put them side by side, compare the astectics hands down winner DD

5 October 2011, 09:33 PM	#19
vette boy 52 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Katy, TX Watch: GMT II-c TT Posts: 773	OK for me the DDII platimum with diamond dial. Calatrava is too small for my wrist. Having said that I am looking for a simple thin dress watch and have been looking at the automatic Piaget Altiplano as it is 42 mm. It currently holds the worlds records for the thinest automatic movement and watch.

5 October 2011, 09:53 PM	#21
Dickson Lim "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: planet Posts: 1,517	Slight winner for Patek. But I am sure you won't be wrong with the DD.

5 October 2011, 10:54 PM	#22
tomchicago Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16710BLRO, 214270. Posts: 2,717	How about a 118239 or 118209 (white gold) DD ? White gold DD very special watch that you don't have to fuss with manual winding nor be terrified that bashing it into a door jamb (which will inevitably happen eventually) will completely ruin the watch. The trusted sellers right here on the forum can source these for you nicely.

5 October 2011, 11:02 PM	#23
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	Both great choices but completely different watches. You can do anything but dive with a DD, while the Caltrava is strictly an office/dress watch. I like both watches and don't own either.

5 October 2011, 11:28 PM	#24
daunwaun "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Ken Location: toronto Watch: 18K YG Day Date Posts: 2,985	DD for me! __________________ DAUNWAUN

5 October 2011, 11:29 PM	#25
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	Tough choice, but Patek I own a 5196R...not the least bit blingy or noticeable, but I'd sell all my other watches before parting with that one.

6 October 2011, 12:11 AM	#26
Keeperoftime "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Louisiana Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,732	I have found, as a whole, cooler people wear Rolex. I like both brands...just saying. The Day-Date is beautiful. But Patek is more "Stealth-Wealth" __________________ As a man is, so he sees. As the eye is formed, such are its powers. William Blake

6 October 2011, 12:59 AM	#29
rossi46 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: CT, by a lake Watch: 16570 Posts: 1,555	An odd comparison, this. Do you want a dress watch? Or just a "special" watch? If dress, then clearly the PP. Something special you can keep forever and wear with anything, go DD. __________________ A watch is about the entire package, not just its appearance. Any large watch company not making its own movement is not making a watch at all; they’re just playing dress-up. --The Watch Snob

6 October 2011, 01:20 AM	#30
bigrustypig "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jeff Location: New Zealand Watch: Rolex DSSD Posts: 1,426	Depends on your lifestyle. All things equal, I'd go Patek.

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