116718 ceramic bezel

[reecester]

Hi Guys,

Is it just me or does this GMT 2 look a little strange?
Here are some of the pics posted.

Here is the listing on ebay.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-GMT-MASTER-II-18ct-GOLD-WATCH-116718-CERAMIC-BEZEL-BLACK-DIAL-D-SERIAL-/230699554399?pt=UK_Jewelery_Watches_Watches_MensWa tches_GL&hash=item35b6c3d65f

[kilyung]

First of all, it's the wrong clasp. Secondly, the LEC should not be so big or readily photographed. Thirdly, there are big gaps between the insert and bezel. I'd avoid this piece. Looks fake.

[esm]

Originally Posted by kilyung

First of all, it's the wrong clasp. Secondly, the LEC should not be so big or readily photographed. Thirdly, there are big gaps between the insert and bezel. I'd avoid this piece. Looks fake.

yep. def a fake.

i'd ask the seller if that POS has a green sticker on the case back


EDIT:

is that the correct warranty for a 2006 Rolex? when did Rolex introduce the "warranty card" type?

[kilyung]

Paper warranty is correct for D serial. Cards started with M.

Originally Posted by esm

yep. def a fake.

i'd ask the seller if that POS has a green sticker on the case back


EDIT:

is that the correct warranty for a 2006 Rolex? when did Rolex introduce the "warranty card" type?

[kilyung]

I should also point out that the screw pins extend beyond the endlinks which I've never seen on a real Rolex. I love the hand written service papers.

[SaddleSC]

Among other things, the second tics are too prominent and the LEC should not be that obvious to capture in photographs. It is not just a fake, but a very very bad one at that.

[kilyung]

I'm just amazed that people actually bid on crap like this. I guess they havent heard of "too good to be true" or "come prepared". A simple Google search and picture comparison would unveil this fraudulent piece.

[azguy]

while I don't doubt the vast amount of knowledge on this site, how can you guys tell from pictures like this isn't there optical illusions with taking pictures in bad lighting I mean, the paperwork, boxes, manuals and everything looks in order, it appears to be a D series and while it does appear weird that the LEC is so easily photographed in this picture when I know people struggle to capture these even when trying.

Any insight would be very educational, to me at least

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by azguy

while I don't doubt the vast amount of knowledge on this site, how can you guys tell from pictures like this isn't there optical illusions with taking pictures in bad lighting I mean, the paperwork, boxes, manuals and everything looks in order, it appears to be a D series and while it does appear weird that the LEC is so easily photographed in this picture when I know people struggle to capture these even when trying.

Any insight would be very educational, to me at least

It's near impossible to photograph the LEC without magnification. The clasp should be flip lock. The offered clasp is a recent Datejust model. The bezel has gaps around it. The screws should be flush with the end links. It's fake or a badly cobbled together frankenwatch... either possibility being a misrepresentation.

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by azguy

while I don't doubt the vast amount of knowledge on this site, how can you guys tell from pictures like this isn't there optical illusions with taking pictures in bad lighting I mean, the paperwork, boxes, manuals and everything looks in order, it appears to be a D series and while it does appear weird that the LEC is so easily photographed in this picture when I know people struggle to capture these even when trying.

Any insight would be very educational, to me at least

The key thing is to look carefully at any watch.

This is his offering :

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Compare the quality to mine, a genuine one.

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It's bad enough in the pics and I can guarantee you the thing would look and feel disgusting "in the flesh".

Report away, it's the only way these things vanish.

[FremStar]

WTF!!! Pure garbage!!! Mike has touched on all points... Atrocity!!!!

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by FremStar

WTF!!! Pure garbage!!! Mike has touched on all points... Atrocity!!!!

helps when I'm staring at the real deal to compare.

[FremStar]

Originally Posted by kilyung

helps when I'm staring at the real deal to compare.

I hear you sir, it pains my eyes to look at mine and then see this abomination on the bay!

[reecester]

Currently 4 bids at $8k . I hope no one pays for this. Not to mention the seller has 131 positive transactions.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by reecester

Currently 4 bids at $8k . I hope no one pays for this. Not to mention the seller has 131 positive transactions.

All private. So easily 131 $5 transactions to build up his rep.

[reecester]

The hour,minute and second hand appears to not be gold.

[Welshwatchman]

Just remember to click "report item" on the Ebay page.

[Welshwatchman]

.... btw, here's the recent service papers.

He's obviously looking for a real mug to buy his "gold" watch.

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[robertneville]

also, hand stack is incorrect!

[robertneville]

also, Paul, beautiful watch!

[duc848]

lol where the heck is the 24 hr hand???

[kilyung]

It's under the second hand.

[Mosco]

WOW - how nasty!

[mcjp6]

A horror...

time to end this listing.

[mcjp6]

This listing (230699554399) has been removed, or this item is not available.

[zacharylough]

Not genuine! The crown at the rehaut is way off. Maybe its just the angle of the pic.

Also that bracelet should be a fliplock oyster bracelet, not the oyster bracelet as shown. However it could be a modified piece where he changed out the bracelet.

Something else seems very off. Can't put my finger on the other things though. But wow what a piece. LOL

Would love to be proven wrong though. Maybe a receipt or a warrenty card. or a picture of you with $29,500 might clear a few things up.