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SS Oyster · 16 February 2012, 09:12 AM

Now after a few weeks of being blessed with owning two of the finest (IMO) modern Rolex watches on the market today, I thought I'd share some observations on the differences between the two watches as well as the challenges with sharing wrist time.

My two: G serial Sub LVc and Random Black ExpII 42

The 42EXPII wears very similar in size to the SubC. The bracelet is a bit looser than I have my LVc set (obviously fewer settings), but overall it feels about the same (don't notice a difference). I haven't weighed them, but I'd bet they are within 5-10g of each other. Both clasps are amazing, but I prefer the look of the longer Sub clasp (just personal pref), but the EXPII clasp is superb. All in all, the ExpII is a great alternative to the LVc, but definitely seems much more on the DL in terms of wrist presence. The LVc has just so much more pop, shine, intangible appeal. If I had to part with one, it would be the 216570, but both get nearly the same wrist time.

When I shift back and forth between watches, since both have a power reserve less than 48 hrs, I would have to shift every other day to prevent having to wind them or reset the date/time. Things you may not know:
- Sub is much easier to reset since you set the time with the crown in the fully out (3rd pull position - hacked) and date on the second pull position independent from the hour hand.
- ExpII is far more painful because yes you can still set the time the same way (full out 3rd pull position - hacked). This not only sets the hour, but also the 24 hr hand (second timezone). The painful part (when shifting to a unwound watch in the same timezone) is when you want to set the date, you have to do it by the 2nd pull position (hour quickset). That's ok, although a longer process than the sub where you set the date directly, but more problematic is the fact that resetting the date using the hour hand only does NOT move the BIG ORANGE 24 hr hand (second timezone). Therefore, once you are all set, the 24hr hand is all wrong from the timezone you had it set last time it was worn. This is a necessary evil as the purpose of this watch is to be able to set the local time with the hour hand without changing the 24hr hand, which is likely set to back home or GMT or wherever you have it set while you travel. Once you get to this stage, you then have to back up the real time (position 2) and hack the hour (position 3) to move both the hour and 24hr hands forward to the correct position ... all while trying to keep the date right. Just a bit more hassle than I expected.

Maybe I should only have 1 Rolex or get one without a date for my second watch.

Honestly, these minor issues are small when compared to the great joy and use I get from these workhorses. I love the fact that when I travel, my ExpII will keep track of time back home for me. I also love the Sub LVc for it's rugged looks, tank-like durability, and function.

I am very happy ... (for now)

nauticajoe · 16 February 2012, 09:14 AM

That's a great combo!

Congrats!

SS Oyster · 16 February 2012, 09:19 AM

Some of the pics fell off, so here are more...

WhatTheDeuce · 16 February 2012, 09:21 AM

schweet!

GradyPhilpott · 16 February 2012, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

Getting used to the luxury of having two Rolex watches ... sharing wrist time

It is an exquisite agony!

jim251 · 16 February 2012, 09:41 AM

Helluva post! Good luck with both of those beauties!

HL65 · 16 February 2012, 09:44 AM

Great combo and great shots too!

thewatchguy93 · 16 February 2012, 10:08 AM

GREAT pics!!! I miss my LVc...

AJMarcus · 16 February 2012, 10:16 AM

Great choices. You may wanna consider investing in a quality watch winder like a Wolf Designs. That will solve your date problem as you switch between those two beauties. Enjoy!

FremStar · 16 February 2012, 10:25 AM

Very cool! I hope you keep the 216570 in your collection... Thanks for sharing

karmatp · 16 February 2012, 10:33 AM

I just saw the Explorer II for the first time a few days ago, I love it. Congrats on a great combo.

Lion · 16 February 2012, 10:36 AM

Both are great watches and I'm sure it's fun to change up every so many days.....enjoy!!!

A.J.R. · 16 February 2012, 11:09 AM

Great pics!

z32turbo · 16 February 2012, 11:09 AM

Wow very nice!! Love the LVC!!

77T · 16 February 2012, 11:40 AM

Great shots of great pieces.
Maybe time for a winder, Mark, if the hassle factor is getting to you. Or mod your AM routine to wind the stay-at-home piece that day.

With more experience, the Expl.II set protocol will become easier.

Len S · 16 February 2012, 12:27 PM

You have 2 very excellent timepieces. Thanks for the comparison, I wondered if setting the GMT would be more difficult or more of a hassle with the extra hand. BTW, great pics.

dalip · 16 February 2012, 01:05 PM

Excellent pics of 2 stunning watches

Thanks for the comparison -They both suit you very well....

bluemartinifan · 16 February 2012, 11:52 AM

Mark great post - and you are right - we are blessed to own 1,2 or more Rolexes

Bangel · 16 February 2012, 12:20 PM

Thanks for sharing your pics and real world appraisal of the multiple watch scenario. You have a great duo.

Ebruner · 16 February 2012, 12:23 PM

A great pair to own, and neat pics as well.

-Eddie

masterserg · 16 February 2012, 01:09 PM

Great write up. I have an LV C and a black 16570. I've been thinking of trading that one for a polar 216570 at some point so I appreciate your comments and pictures.

opaline460 · 16 February 2012, 01:56 PM

Ball so hard.

chicagofan · 16 February 2012, 02:09 PM

Very nice pics of two great watches.

FeelingTheBlues · 16 February 2012, 02:12 PM

Great watches indeed, glad to know you enjoy such a rotation!

snowinvt · 16 February 2012, 02:17 PM

Absolutely positively jealous. Enjoy your Rolex'es.'

Fernandohk · 16 February 2012, 02:35 PM

My 216570 blk just arrived so great to read your comparison with the sub c which I have enjoyed wearing. Thanks.

SS Oyster · 16 February 2012, 04:18 PM

Thanks guys!

omegabenz · 16 February 2012, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

get one without a date for my second watch.
I am very happy ... (for now)

Yeah! That is a great idea, father-daughter Milgausses! What is nice without a date, is that you can pick it up, set the time and you are done. Also, the date on a Milgauss is not an option, so you don't have to feel like you are holding back.

Jede89 · 16 February 2012, 05:35 PM

Beautiful LVc! With that available I would struggle to have time to put anything else on my wrist!

Rolex77 · 16 February 2012, 05:40 PM

great watches, great car, and great life hopefully...

16 February 2012, 09:12 AM	#1
SS Oyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,445	Getting used to the luxury of having two Rolex watches ... sharing wrist time Now after a few weeks of being blessed with owning two of the finest (IMO) modern Rolex watches on the market today, I thought I'd share some observations on the differences between the two watches as well as the challenges with sharing wrist time. My two: G serial Sub LVc and Random Black ExpII 42 The 42EXPII wears very similar in size to the SubC. The bracelet is a bit looser than I have my LVc set (obviously fewer settings), but overall it feels about the same (don't notice a difference). I haven't weighed them, but I'd bet they are within 5-10g of each other. Both clasps are amazing, but I prefer the look of the longer Sub clasp (just personal pref), but the EXPII clasp is superb. All in all, the ExpII is a great alternative to the LVc, but definitely seems much more on the DL in terms of wrist presence. The LVc has just so much more pop, shine, intangible appeal. If I had to part with one, it would be the 216570, but both get nearly the same wrist time. When I shift back and forth between watches, since both have a power reserve less than 48 hrs, I would have to shift every other day to prevent having to wind them or reset the date/time. Things you may not know: - Sub is much easier to reset since you set the time with the crown in the fully out (3rd pull position - hacked) and date on the second pull position independent from the hour hand. - ExpII is far more painful because yes you can still set the time the same way (full out 3rd pull position - hacked). This not only sets the hour, but also the 24 hr hand (second timezone). The painful part (when shifting to a unwound watch in the same timezone) is when you want to set the date, you have to do it by the 2nd pull position (hour quickset). That's ok, although a longer process than the sub where you set the date directly, but more problematic is the fact that resetting the date using the hour hand only does NOT move the BIG ORANGE 24 hr hand (second timezone). Therefore, once you are all set, the 24hr hand is all wrong from the timezone you had it set last time it was worn. This is a necessary evil as the purpose of this watch is to be able to set the local time with the hour hand without changing the 24hr hand, which is likely set to back home or GMT or wherever you have it set while you travel. Once you get to this stage, you then have to back up the real time (position 2) and hack the hour (position 3) to move both the hour and 24hr hands forward to the correct position ... all while trying to keep the date right. Just a bit more hassle than I expected. Maybe I should only have 1 Rolex or get one without a date for my second watch. Honestly, these minor issues are small when compared to the great joy and use I get from these workhorses. I love the fact that when I travel, my ExpII will keep track of time back home for me. I also love the Sub LVc for it's rugged looks, tank-like durability, and function. I am very happy ... (for now) Attached Images

16 February 2012, 09:19 AM	#3
SS Oyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,445	Some of the pics fell off, so here are more... Attached Images

16 February 2012, 09:44 AM	#7
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,286	Great combo and great shots too! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

16 February 2012, 10:08 AM	#8
thewatchguy93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: thewatchguy Location: UK Watch: me buy gold.. Posts: 7,441	GREAT pics!!! I miss my LVc... __________________ Instagram.. @thewatchguy www.thewatchguyofficial.co.uk Got a GREEN Submariner 116610LV.. Visit the official thread here! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=179580 Don't forget to visit the Rolex & Attire thread too! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=215077

16 February 2012, 10:25 AM	#10
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	Very cool! I hope you keep the 216570 in your collection... Thanks for sharing __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

16 February 2012, 09:14 AM	#2
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	That's a great combo! Congrats!

16 February 2012, 09:21 AM	#4
WhatTheDeuce "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Kyung Location: Anywhere? Watch: cha want... Posts: 4,488	schweet!

16 February 2012, 09:41 AM	#6
jim251 Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: VA Posts: 591	Helluva post! Good luck with both of those beauties!

16 February 2012, 10:16 AM	#9
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,253	Great choices. You may wanna consider investing in a quality watch winder like a Wolf Designs. That will solve your date problem as you switch between those two beauties. Enjoy!

16 February 2012, 10:33 AM	#11
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	I just saw the Explorer II for the first time a few days ago, I love it. Congrats on a great combo. __________________ My grails:

16 February 2012, 10:36 AM	#12
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Both are great watches and I'm sure it's fun to change up every so many days.....enjoy!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

16 February 2012, 11:09 AM	#13
A.J.R. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: AJ Location: Oregon Watch: SUBC, DJII Posts: 1,827	Great pics! __________________

16 February 2012, 11:09 AM	#14
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	Wow very nice!! Love the LVC!! __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

16 February 2012, 11:40 AM	#15
77T 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,572	Great shots of great pieces. Maybe time for a winder, Mark, if the hassle factor is getting to you. Or mod your AM routine to wind the stay-at-home piece that day. With more experience, the Expl.II set protocol will become easier. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

16 February 2012, 12:27 PM	#16
Len S "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Len Location: SoCal Watch: 116610LN Posts: 987	You have 2 very excellent timepieces. Thanks for the comparison, I wondered if setting the GMT would be more difficult or more of a hassle with the extra hand. BTW, great pics.

16 February 2012, 01:05 PM	#17
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	Excellent pics of 2 stunning watches Thanks for the comparison -They both suit you very well.... __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

16 February 2012, 11:52 AM	#18
bluemartinifan 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Russ Location: Dallas Texas Watch: 5513 Posts: 2,124	Mark great post - and you are right - we are blessed to own 1,2 or more Rolexes

16 February 2012, 12:20 PM	#19
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	Thanks for sharing your pics and real world appraisal of the multiple watch scenario. You have a great duo.

16 February 2012, 12:23 PM	#20
Ebruner "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Eddie Location: Kentucky Watch: 118208 Posts: 2,510	A great pair to own, and neat pics as well. -Eddie __________________

16 February 2012, 01:09 PM	#21
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Great write up. I have an LV C and a black 16570. I've been thinking of trading that one for a polar 216570 at some point so I appreciate your comments and pictures. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

16 February 2012, 01:56 PM	#22
opaline460 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,386	Ball so hard.

16 February 2012, 02:09 PM	#23
chicagofan "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Howard Location: Chicago Posts: 3,591	Very nice pics of two great watches.

16 February 2012, 02:12 PM	#24
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	Great watches indeed, glad to know you enjoy such a rotation! __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

16 February 2012, 02:17 PM	#25
snowinvt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vermont Posts: 13	Absolutely positively jealous. Enjoy your Rolex'es.'

16 February 2012, 02:35 PM	#26
Fernandohk "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 316	My 216570 blk just arrived so great to read your comparison with the sub c which I have enjoyed wearing. Thanks.

16 February 2012, 04:18 PM	#27
SS Oyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,445	Thanks guys!

16 February 2012, 05:35 PM	#29
Jede89 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Black Bay Posts: 221	Beautiful LVc! With that available I would struggle to have time to put anything else on my wrist!

16 February 2012, 05:40 PM	#30
Rolex77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Indra Location: Jakarta Watch: ROLEXes, OMEGAs Posts: 154	great watches, great car, and great life hopefully...

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