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wisguy · 12 June 2012, 11:50 AM

The jeweler where I always buy my watches offered me today this 1680 Red Submariner (sorry for the crappy Blackberry pictures):

We took the newer 93150 bracelet off (which feels pretty solid) to see the serial number and it's a 3.7 million, not sure if the dial is a Mark IV or Mark V.

It looks and feels great, and the price is kinda tempting at $8,000 with a faded insert and no box or papers.

What do you think? Do you see anything wrong with it?

Please, do chip in.

Beaumont Miller II · 12 June 2012, 01:08 PM

Dial is a Mk V "semi-open" 6 dial that would be correct for the serial number. Dial appears to be in excellent condition without chips in hash marks or peeling, and lume appears to be intact. If there are no issues with the case, I would say 8k is very fair.

pdoukas · 12 June 2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaumont Miller II

Dial is a Mk V "semi-open" 6 dial that would be correct for the serial number. Dial appears to be in excellent condition without chips in hash marks or peeling, and lume appears to be intact. If there are no issues with the case, I would say 8k is very fair.

X2 however, I see a huge gash on the crystal which is no big deal for me. Also, insert is not fat font, but again price is reasonable.

SPARTAN2161 · 12 June 2012, 02:31 PM

nice piece! 8k seems fair. 7.5k sounds better though! Good luck!

bertberr · 12 June 2012, 03:21 PM

As said already, this is a 'mid font' insert, no biggie and quite a common replacement on many older Subs. At least it looks a little aged and has a nice pearl. Dial & hands look good and case looks nice with good crown guards. If it all checks out when they whip the case back off and the bracelet is useable, then I'd say 8K is very good, and I'd rip their arm off before somebody else grabs it.

Donhala · 12 June 2012, 07:26 PM

You make a good deal because you take it for a rezonable price.

RC2 · 12 June 2012, 07:49 PM

I'll take it :)

cruvon · 12 June 2012, 08:17 PM

wow, beautiful red!

Kingair · 12 June 2012, 08:28 PM

Nice one . . . but it would look better on my wrist . . . ;-)

Go ahead before it's sold . . . ,

Good luck and keep us updated

HAGT

Robbyvm · 12 June 2012, 09:35 PM

do not hesitate... it looks great !

DiamondJack · 12 June 2012, 10:00 PM

Looks like a nice Mark V. Just check the hands match the colour of the lume dots as difficult to see from the photos. Also 3.7m is a little late for a Mark V. I would probably expect it to be 3.2 - 3.5 but there is some crossover so probably nothing to worry about.

But good value at $8k even for a loose watch.

wisguy · 12 June 2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DiamondJack

Looks like a nice Mark V. Just check the hands match the colour of the lume dots as difficult to see from the photos. Also 3.7m is a little late for a Mark V. I would probably expect it to be 3.2 - 3.5 but there is some crossover so probably nothing to worry about.

But good value at $8k even for a loose watch.

It's a 3.27 mill serial, i the 2 when typing on the iPad.

DiamondJack · 12 June 2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wisguy

It's a 3.27 mill serial, i the 2 when typing on the iPad.

Even better.....

now it all ties up. Does the colour of the lume on the hands match the hour dots...... If so, you have a steal at anywhere near $8k IMO.

Puffy · 12 June 2012, 10:03 PM

looks nice, great looking FF insert too...

the 93150 shouldn't play too much of a role. you can find a new bracelet for little money..

fusionstorm · 13 June 2012, 12:13 AM

Nothing glaring jumps out. It'd be nice to see side and back views of the case and caseback. Lugs appear good, but more angles are needed to confirm.

azguy · 13 June 2012, 12:17 AM

It's more than fair for that watch

I would buy it quickly

wisguy · 13 June 2012, 06:16 AM

More crappy Blackberry pictures (sorry, I miss my iPhone!)...

I went in to look at it again and take some more pictures:

Any new insights from these pictures?

I'm leaning towards trading the Milgauss and adding some cash, never liked the PCL's... I don't wear it much and I can buy something dressier like it in the future, but I'm starting to think that it won't be easy to find another 1680 like this.

Forgot to take a picture of the faded insert, it's still has the tritium pearl on it, if I get it that's the one I will use. I'll also get a new replace the plastic crystal, it's got a nasty scratch @ 12. I believe the hands were replaced since they are a tad lighter than the plots...

Twsns · 13 June 2012, 06:24 AM

Try using Polywatch to get rid of the scratch first because a super dome crystal can cost a lot. You should definitely buy this watch for 8K that's a good deal.

springer · 13 June 2012, 06:40 AM

Looks like a nice vintage Submariner. That serial number places it close to the end of production for the red Subs. Good luck in your decision.

RLX-lvr · 13 June 2012, 07:10 AM

Looks to be very nice.

The hands look to have been replaced at some point, but you can find some tritium replacements no problem to match that lume.

Cost will be around $300-$350.

Nothing wrong with that piece, and the price is fair as well. I would trade my Milgauss and cash for sure if it was me.

If not, I'm sure a few people here will be lined up to buy it.

pdoukas · 13 June 2012, 09:38 AM

If you don't buy it let me know :) then send me your jeweler's contact info. I'd be all over that like a choir boy on a porn star!

azguy · 14 June 2012, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pdoukas

I'd be all over that like a choir boy on a porn star!

Kingair · 14 June 2012, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pdoukas

If you don't buy it let me know :) then send me your jeweler's contact info. I'd be all over that like a choir boy on a porn star!

Yipee . . . ! ! ! !

He isn't going to buy it . . he is going to buy it . . . He isn't going to buy it . .

I would be really nervous in your place . . ;-)

Good luck . . all !

HAGOne

wisguy · 13 June 2012, 10:02 AM

In the process of working out a deal to trade my Milgauss for it...

BaltimoreBrian · 14 June 2012, 03:21 AM

Way to go! Keep us updated. We always welcome another vintage to the TRF family

12 June 2012, 11:50 AM	#1
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	What do you think about this Red Submariner? The jeweler where I always buy my watches offered me today this 1680 Red Submariner (sorry for the crappy Blackberry pictures): We took the newer 93150 bracelet off (which feels pretty solid) to see the serial number and it's a 3.7 million, not sure if the dial is a Mark IV or Mark V. It looks and feels great, and the price is kinda tempting at $8,000 with a faded insert and no box or papers. What do you think? Do you see anything wrong with it? Please, do chip in. __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

12 June 2012, 01:08 PM	#2
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	Dial is a Mk V "semi-open" 6 dial that would be correct for the serial number. Dial appears to be in excellent condition without chips in hash marks or peeling, and lume appears to be intact. If there are no issues with the case, I would say 8k is very fair. __________________

12 June 2012, 07:49 PM	#7
RC2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Rich Location: NC Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 2,359	I'll take it :) __________________ Rich Member of Nylon Nation Red Sox Nation Instagram watchguy97

12 June 2012, 08:17 PM	#8
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,689	wow, beautiful red! __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

12 June 2012, 10:03 PM	#14
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	looks nice, great looking FF insert too... the 93150 shouldn't play too much of a role. you can find a new bracelet for little money.. __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

12 June 2012, 02:31 PM	#4
SPARTAN2161 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Nick H. Location: Amherst, NY Watch: me flip Posts: 1,901	nice piece! 8k seems fair. 7.5k sounds better though! Good luck!

12 June 2012, 03:21 PM	#5
bertberr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 233	As said already, this is a 'mid font' insert, no biggie and quite a common replacement on many older Subs. At least it looks a little aged and has a nice pearl. Dial & hands look good and case looks nice with good crown guards. If it all checks out when they whip the case back off and the bracelet is useable, then I'd say 8K is very good, and I'd rip their arm off before somebody else grabs it.

12 June 2012, 07:26 PM	#6
Donhala Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: Buchareat Posts: 10	You make a good deal because you take it for a rezonable price.

12 June 2012, 08:28 PM	#9
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Nice one . . . but it would look better on my wrist . . . ;-) Go ahead before it's sold . . . , Good luck and keep us updated HAGT

12 June 2012, 09:35 PM	#10
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	do not hesitate... it looks great !

12 June 2012, 10:00 PM	#11
DiamondJack "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London Watch: Quite a few Posts: 4,315	Looks like a nice Mark V. Just check the hands match the colour of the lume dots as difficult to see from the photos. Also 3.7m is a little late for a Mark V. I would probably expect it to be 3.2 - 3.5 but there is some crossover so probably nothing to worry about. But good value at $8k even for a loose watch.

13 June 2012, 12:13 AM	#15
fusionstorm "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Piedmont, CA Watch: various vintage Posts: 2,272	Nothing glaring jumps out. It'd be nice to see side and back views of the case and caseback. Lugs appear good, but more angles are needed to confirm. __________________ 1680 MK II 2.2M (my daily); 1655 MK IV 8.1M (my 1st vintage); 16660 x 4 - 8.0M spider & matte 7.4M, 8.0M, 8.0M; 16610LV F MK I/MK I; 116528 Z; 14060 M COSC; Tudor 75090 Gone.....never forgotten: 14000 F, 14060 V COSC, PAM 048, 16623 F, 1680 MK V 3.1M, 16800 matte 8.3M & 1655 MK IV 7.4M

13 June 2012, 12:17 AM	#16
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	It's more than fair for that watch I would buy it quickly

13 June 2012, 06:16 AM	#17
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	More crappy Blackberry pictures (sorry, I miss my iPhone!)... I went in to look at it again and take some more pictures: Any new insights from these pictures? I'm leaning towards trading the Milgauss and adding some cash, never liked the PCL's... I don't wear it much and I can buy something dressier like it in the future, but I'm starting to think that it won't be easy to find another 1680 like this. Forgot to take a picture of the faded insert, it's still has the tritium pearl on it, if I get it that's the one I will use. I'll also get a new replace the plastic crystal, it's got a nasty scratch @ 12. I believe the hands were replaced since they are a tad lighter than the plots... __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

13 June 2012, 06:24 AM	#18
Twsns Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Tom Location: New York Watch: 5513 Posts: 72	Try using Polywatch to get rid of the scratch first because a super dome crystal can cost a lot. You should definitely buy this watch for 8K that's a good deal.

13 June 2012, 06:40 AM	#19
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,307	Looks like a nice vintage Submariner. That serial number places it close to the end of production for the red Subs. Good luck in your decision. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

13 June 2012, 07:10 AM	#20
RLX-lvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Toronto Posts: 1,947	Looks to be very nice. The hands look to have been replaced at some point, but you can find some tritium replacements no problem to match that lume. Cost will be around $300-$350. Nothing wrong with that piece, and the price is fair as well. I would trade my Milgauss and cash for sure if it was me. If not, I'm sure a few people here will be lined up to buy it.

13 June 2012, 09:38 AM	#21
pdoukas "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Pete Location: Arizona Watch: ing Duke bball Posts: 1,488	If you don't buy it let me know :) then send me your jeweler's contact info. I'd be all over that like a choir boy on a porn star!

13 June 2012, 10:02 AM	#24
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	In the process of working out a deal to trade my Milgauss for it... __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

14 June 2012, 03:21 AM	#25
BaltimoreBrian "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Brian Location: Towson, MD Watch: iZ Posts: 2,224	Way to go! Keep us updated. We always welcome another vintage to the TRF family

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