Curious, I didn't know there was such a thing

[lhanddds]

Think this is a good seller but it looks to be a modified ceramic sub.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-MENS-S...item4845b9df07

[azguy]

Yeah, it's a 116610 with a blue bezel insert and dial. Not easy to source and not inexpensive. There was adiscussion about watches like these in the last few days...

Personally, I love it

Rolex warranty claim is bogus though....

[Keeperoftime]

Originally Posted by azguy

Yeah, it's a 116610 with a blue bezel insert and dial. Not easy to source and not inexpensive. There was adiscussion about watches like these in the last few days...

Personally, I love it

Rolex warranty claim is bogus though....

+1

[kilyung]

"FULL 2 YEAR WARRANTY ROLEX WARRANTY"

I think they might want to check on the warranty claim.

[Cru Jones]

considering the cost of the bezel and dial, at least the initial bid price doesn't represent a huge mark-up.

Originally Posted by kilyung

"FULL 2 YEAR WARRANTY ROLEX WARRANTY"

I think they might want to check on the warranty claim.

[A.J.R.]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

considering the cost of the bezel and dial, at least the initial bid price doesn't represent a huge mark-up.

I thought the same thing.

[Cuts33]

Originally Posted by A.J.R.

I thought the same thing.

You're assuming those are genuine Rolex parts. There are aftermarket blue ceramic bezels and dials on Ebay as well.

I would also want the original dial and bezel included.

[tgoose1]

Grey market dealer(dark grey), in-house warranty is all they really are offering.

[lhanddds]

Originally Posted by kilyung

"FULL 2 YEAR WARRANTY ROLEX WARRANTY"

I think they might want to check on the warranty claim.

That's what I was thinking Mike

[TSW]

Originally Posted by kilyung

"FULL 2 YEAR WARRANTY ROLEX WARRANTY"

I think they might want to check on the warranty claim.

X2

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by kilyung

"FULL 2 YEAR WARRANTY ROLEX WARRANTY"

I think they might want to check on the warranty claim.

You can go to an independent watchmaker ?

A possibility ;-)

HAGOne

[SiSiSenor]

Looks almost like a "shark", with a dial swap to give the appearance of the white gold version.

[Tools]

I would say that since Rolex does not make a SS blue ceramic, it cannot possibly be "new with warranty"

I would steer well clear of this watch without proof of it's build..

[Psmith]

Dial looks wrong to me (non-maxi) ...other things too...

[ArcticMoose]

Originally Posted by Psmith

Dial looks wrong to me (non-maxi) ...other things too...

Definitely a fake dial, and the font on the bezel looks thin too.

[Earl]

Originally Posted by Tools

I would say that since Rolex does not make a SS blue ceramic, it cannot possibly be "new with warranty"

I would steer well clear of this watch without proof of it's build..

LOOKS JUST LIKE THE 18K WHITE GOLD 116619 SUBMARINER. <---- looks are deceiving ! Because it's not a 116619 there fore fake!
My opinion

[up2nogood]

I like how the seller has covered up the text. No ceramic rep has the text correct which is the main reason for not making it visible.

[mrbill2mrbill2]

Here's more:

https://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=238277

[pp763]

lets imagine it was real which I doubt it is. If you put it next to the real white gold version without feeling the weight would you be able to tell which is which? Because in photos I cannot tell a white gold watch just from the colour.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by pp763

lets imagine it was real which I doubt it is. If you put it next to the real white gold version without feeling the weight would you be able to tell which is which? Because in photos I cannot tell a white gold watch just from the colour.

The hallmarks are missing behind the lugs and there is a color difference.

Steel vs WG SubC

[Joey_V]

Originally Posted by kilyung

The hallmarks are missing behind the lugs and there is a color difference.

Steel vs WG SubC

I agree... easy to tell the difference. On kilyung's pick, the one on the right is the wg one.

[pp763]

Originally Posted by Joey_V

I agree... easy to tell the difference. On kilyung's pick, the one on the right is the wg one.

So I guess white gold is a lighter colour and less silverish than steel?

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by pp763

So I guess white gold is a lighter colour and less silverish than steel?

Correct, a slight yellow tinge to it. Heard back from the seller:

Dear kilyung,
The dial is the original dial that has been refinished to blue. The bezel insert is an aftermarket blue insert. Thank you Brad

- anaheimjewelry

[Londonboy]

The insert looks like a cheap ebay insert that has been sanded/filed on the inner edge to fit the bezel. Dial looks wrong too. Run, don't walk, away from this.

[jay1988]

6:25 ? How convenient. Isn't that the time that covers up the writing on the dial best ? Yeah seems legit to me.

[ArcticMoose]

Originally Posted by jay1988

6:25 ? How convenient. Isn't that the time that covers up the writing on the dial best ? Yeah seems legit to me.

It doesn't do much to cover up those chunky marker surrounds though.

[Vaxe]

If you look at the rehaut, it doesn't have a serial number @ 6'clock despite RolexRolexRolex.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by Vaxe

If you look at the rehaut, it doesn't have a serial number @ 6'clock despite RolexRolexRolex.

A G serial appears to have been photoshopped out. Regardless, it's a fake dial and bezel. The "2" in 20 is shaped wrong. "SWISS MADE" is too thin and spread too far apart. To add further insult, the bezel is chipped between the glass and 30. Stay away!

Seller's pic


Genuine article

[Time2time]

Dunno about this one but I have seen one or two in the flesh.
Look nice.

[Andad]

The dial marker surrounds and the dial script don't look correct to me.