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Old 21 November 2007, 08:21 AM   #1
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New to me SD is running +15

My new to me D Series SD arrived last week, it's in "as new" condition without a mark on it. It looks like it's never been worn, it must have been purchased as an "investment" before I bought it for 65% of its original price.



I finally got around to checking the accuracy, and unfortunately it is running +15 seconds per day; I am going to send it in to Rolex for regulation.

I am a bit irritated because I bought the SD as a backup Rolex so that I can send my (also new to me) 12 year old Sub in for service without being without (BTW, the Sub is keeping +3)

Anyway, I am just venting -- thanks for listening (assuming someone is).

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Old 21 November 2007, 08:26 AM   #2
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Congrats on the deal! Sorry to hear you have to send both in for service. Maybe you can send the new one in first? Beautiful Sub!
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Old 21 November 2007, 08:28 AM   #3
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Great looking SD, and since you would expect this one to be run in even though it seems not to have been worn much, you're doing the right thing to have it regulated.

Keep us updated us the results!

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Old 21 November 2007, 08:33 AM   #4
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I'm not sure what you mean by "send it in".

You say you live in the Chicago area and there must be a thousand good watchmakers that can regulate that SD in a half hour...

Drop it off at an AD with an in-house watchmaker.....go get a double latte, come back and wait for it....



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Old 21 November 2007, 08:42 AM   #5
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I'm not sure what you mean by "send it in".

You say you live in the Chicago area and there must be a thousand good watchmakers that can regulate that SD in a half hour...

Drop it off at an AD with an in-house watchmaker.....go get a double latte, come back and wait for it....
As stupid as this is going to sound, it never occurred to me to take it anywhere but the Rolex Service Center. I think you have a point, I can probably save about $450 by having it regulated locally.

Thanks.

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Old 21 November 2007, 08:43 AM   #6
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Is it me

Does 12 seconds - really make that much difference to peoples lives


I know I am only a young 'WIS' in training and no doubt some - will seek for perfection in their timepeices .....
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Old 21 November 2007, 08:57 AM   #7
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12 seconds per day really makes little difference to me one way or the other, however I paid the price for this watch partially because it is capable of meeting and exceeding COSC specs.

I sort of think of it the same way as I think of my cars. It doesn't really matter if I drive around with underinflated tires (tyres) and I don't really ever need to drive 155 mph but the car was designed to do it so I want it to be able to just in case.

I don't know, we all paid a fair amount of money for our watches and I would prefer if mine perform as they are supposed to. At this point I have $250 automatic watches with Japanese movements that keep better time, and that's just plain embarrassing.

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Old 21 November 2007, 10:02 AM   #8
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If you're in Chicago go to the Independent authorized service center there and see if they can do it for you.

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Old 21 November 2007, 10:05 AM   #9
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If you're in Chicago go to the Independent authorized service center there and see if they can do it for you.

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Old 21 November 2007, 10:54 PM   #10
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If you're in Chicago go to the Independent authorized service center there and see if they can do it for you.

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Chicago Ill 60602 312-782-7768
Thanks for the info Mike, I'll take it over there next week and report back. I work in Chicago but live 50 miles West so I am here weekdays.

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Old 21 November 2007, 08:21 PM   #11
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12 seconds per day really makes little difference to me one way or the other, however I paid the price for this watch partially because it is capable of meeting and exceeding COSC specs.

I sort of think of it the same way as I think of my cars. It doesn't really matter if I drive around with underinflated tires (tyres) and I don't really ever need to drive 155 mph but the car was designed to do it so I want it to be able to just in case.

I don't know, we all paid a fair amount of money for our watches and I would prefer if mine perform as they are supposed to. At this point I have $250 automatic watches with Japanese movements that keep better time, and that's just plain embarrassing.

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Well just because a Japanese made watch keeps better or very similar time should not be embarrassing.Truth be known that most any modern day mechanical movement could with careful
regulation pass the Swiss COSC test.But regulation to a trained
watchmaker is a very easy task indeed.But agree your watch is
a chronometer and should perform to chronometer Swiss standards of -4 to +6 over 24 hours.Now the Japanese and the
European Din standard are higher for Chronometer mechanical watches -2 to + 4 seconds a day.
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Old 21 November 2007, 10:38 AM   #12
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12 or 15 seconds is annoying. It's capable of better, plus I hate to have to unscrew the crown every week. Eventually that will damage the threads.
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Old 21 November 2007, 12:17 PM   #13
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have you tried the butt-regulator...?

by placing either the crown up or down over night? my SD was running a little slow, so i left it face up overnight and it gained approx 3-4 secs. nice!

i actually learned this from Bo!

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Old 21 November 2007, 10:58 PM   #14
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have you tried the butt-regulator...?

by placing either the crown up or down over night? my SD was running a little slow, so i left it face up overnight and it gained approx 3-4 secs. nice!

i actually learned this from Bo!

I have not tried this, I'll give it a go though. I usually wear my watches at night too. I have two winders so I have 7 watches on the winders, one on my wrist and the rest of them in a watch storage box. The SD has been on my wrist pretty much continuously since it arrived, except for one day on the winder.
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12 or 15 seconds is annoying. It's capable of better
Exactly! So I'd have it corrected for the peace of mind.

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Old 21 November 2007, 11:01 PM   #16
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Thanks for all of the support guys, this has to be one of the nicest forums I have participated in.

Many regards

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Old 21 November 2007, 11:30 PM   #17
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For your own piece of mind have it regulated and then you can monitor it and keep us informed.
My AD did my Exp II 3 months ago and it is currently gaining 1 second a day. Very satisfying.

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Old 22 November 2007, 03:27 AM   #18
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In my humble opinion, 15 seconds is insignificant in a bigger scheme of things.

It matters with WIS's, though, who desire for absolute perfection, if necessary.
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Old 17 December 2007, 10:09 AM   #19
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As a follow up to this thread, I picked my watch up from RSC last week and am happy to report it is running +3 secs per day. I asked them to adjust it to the + side as it makes it easier to synchronize (just pull out the crown and let time catch up with the watch).

Thanks for the recommendation for Sutters (Rolex Service Center Chicago), they are working on a full overhaul of my Sub also which I should be picking up this coming week.
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Old 17 December 2007, 10:20 AM   #20
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65% of it's original price...

That's Day-um good!
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Old 17 December 2007, 12:15 PM   #21
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Hey congrats on the purchase. If it makes you feel even better, my BNIB SD was running about 25 sec/day fast. I was told by a few ADs around here that I had to send it to the RSC for regulation since it was under warranty and they didn't want to void it. That was probably overly conservative on their part, as Bo noted (thanks!) and maybe just plain didn't want to the after-sales service. BUT, now it's running about +1/day.

I have to say, you have a COSC watch and it's definitely fair of you, and us, to expect it to perform that way. It's frustrating when it doesn't work out that way. But a bit of fine-tuning will have it running perfectly, and you'll be much happier that you did it.

I think the other folks are right ... get it to a regular place for regulation rather than sending it in to the RSC if you can.
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Old 17 December 2007, 02:03 PM   #22
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Wow, a 3135 cal. movement running +25 sec./day is astounding! My most inaccurate watch so far is the Omega SMP, which runs about+15 sec./day.
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