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bobbystevenson · 25 January 2013, 09:13 AM

That is part of Howard's report over on timezone.

I asked directly and he confirmed.

Is this the new consensus?

Hanz079 · 25 January 2013, 11:53 AM

I'd be happy if it's still in production.
But if it does get discontinued, the ceramic version is not too bad too.
Love the ceramic crowns...

bobbystevenson · 25 January 2013, 01:38 PM

I love the ceramic but prefer the yellow. Anybody know anything more about this?

kilyung · 25 January 2013, 02:29 PM

I'm getting mixed messages. I had also confirmed with Howard that the FC Diver was discontinued. Maybe he meant after 2013? Either way, I've definitely heard that the intent is to eventually phase out the FC models in favor of ceramic.

I wonder if that means a new all ceramic Bee??

iLLGT2 · 25 January 2013, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

I'm getting mixed messages. I had also confirmed with Howard that the FC Diver was discontinued. Maybe he meant after 2013? Either way, I've definitely heard that the intent is to eventually phase out the FC models in favor of ceramic.

I wonder if that means a new all ceramic Bee??

Nnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooo

v5cog · 17 February 2013, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

I wonder if that means a new all ceramic Bee??

Hmm not so sure

i think it will loose a lot of its character

dsk28 · 18 February 2013, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by v5cog

Hmm not so sure

i think it will loose a lot of its character

Gotta see it with my own eyes before making any comments on this one though, have anyone here seen the real deal?

boa2 · 17 February 2013, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

I'm getting mixed messages. I had also confirmed with Howard that the FC Diver was discontinued. Maybe he meant after 2013? Either way, I've definitely heard that the intent is to eventually phase out the FC models in favor of ceramic.

I wonder if that means a new all ceramic Bee??

Sorry if our conversation was confusing, Mike. They are not discontinued.

kilyung · 17 February 2013, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa2

Sorry if our conversation was confusing, Mike. They are not discontinued.

It's all good my friend.

orangedial · 17 February 2013, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa2

Sorry if our conversation was confusing, Mike. They are not discontinued.

The FC won't be discontinued? That's a good news!

kilyung · 18 February 2013, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangedial

The FC won't be discontinued? That's a good news!

For 2013. They go bye bye

in 2014.

orangedial · 18 February 2013, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

For 2013. They go bye bye

in 2014.

bobbystevenson · 25 January 2013, 03:15 PM

Interesting. I admit it seemed odd that they would only discontinue one of the forged carbon models. However, it also seemed like it was 100% clear that the diver was to be discontinued as I think many of us asked for confirmation.

If anyone gets anything more on this please let us know. Thanks...

boursachi · 25 January 2013, 07:10 PM

so wait let us recap
besides the limiteds: alinghi, grand prix, jarno trulli
add the bumblebee as lp

the only "standard" roos that had fc were
the two 44 chronos
and the yellow diver?

AshAP · 25 January 2013, 08:29 PM

My dealer has just returned from SIHH and has said that the forged carbon models remain in the ROO lineup. The ceramic versions are additional models not replacement models.

Soly20 · 25 January 2013, 08:38 PM

Maybe they will be releasing ceramic Bee?

Well I am not buying anything before at least may this year, thats when I go back to the US.

The dust should have settled by then, hopefully.

Bulliondesk · 26 January 2013, 12:49 AM

FC pieces will remain through 2013. After that discontinued.

psv · 26 January 2013, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulliondesk

FC pieces will remain through 2013. After that discontinued.

That is my understanding as well.

JizJizJiz · 28 January 2013, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulliondesk

FC pieces will remain through 2013. After that discontinued.

Yup, what I heard as well.

craniotes · 26 January 2013, 01:11 AM

Yup, that seems to be the general consensus -- one more year of forged carbon, and then nada.

While I'm still going full-tilt towards an FC Diver, this does give folks a bit more breathing room, though not much -- remember, these watches were never made in large amounts, and with the writing on the wall, I have every reason to believe that they will be in even shorter supply than before. This goes for ALL forged carbon-cased APs, btw, not just the Diver.

Bottom line: If you want FC, get crackin'.

Regards,
Adam

kilyung · 26 January 2013, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craniotes

Yup, that seems to be the general consensus -- one more year of forged carbon, and then nada.

While I'm still going full-tilt towards an FC Diver, this does give folks a bit more breathing room, though not much -- remember, these watches were never made in large amounts, and with the writing on the wall, I have every reason to believe that they will be in even shorter supply than before. This goes for ALL forged carbon-cased APs, btw, not just the Diver.

Bottom line: If you want FC, get crackin'.

Regards,
Adam

Adam,
Do you think even the Bee is on the block even without a ceramic replacement announced?

craniotes · 26 January 2013, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Adam,
Do you think even the Bee is on the block even without a ceramic replacement announced?

Sure seems that way. From what I've heard, forged carbon in general is being phased out. Does this mean that we'll see a ceramic Bumble Bee? Maybe, maybe not.

Regards,
Adam

Joey_V · 26 January 2013, 05:39 AM

If the FC is discontinued after this year, what about replacement middle casings should the watch require it in the future? How long does AP stock replacement FC cases?

kilyung · 26 January 2013, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey_V

If the FC is discontinued after this year, what about replacement middle casings should the watch require it in the future? How long does AP stock replacement FC cases?

I'm sure they'll still use FC for LE/SEs. AP still has all the castings and tools to produce more parts as necessary.

TSW · 26 January 2013, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

I'm sure they'll still use FC for LE/SEs. AP still has all the castings and tools to produce more parts as necessary.

Absolutely

TSW · 26 January 2013, 06:32 AM

AP will still have thru 2013, After that it will be discontinued.
And the focus will be on Ceramic watches.

mspeed76 · 26 January 2013, 07:34 AM

They will support replacement FC parts forever..

Ive noticed the improvements made to FC over the years, from molding to finish.. in its current state with H serials it is perfect IMO. Compared to G series it seems harder and more matte whereas previous ones seemed more porous and grew more shiny over use.

Its a shame if it isn't used in newer models as it has all the properties desirable for a case

boursachi · 26 January 2013, 08:04 AM

ceramic bee? really hope they do not mess with perfection
also isnt the bee a limited production anyway so what better time to stop producing them

re my previous post i forgot to add the Ginza as well

scuba77 · 26 January 2013, 08:36 AM

thats what I was thinking too , maybe the ceramic bee replacement will be orange like the diver is ...in which case the bb really does cease with FC model.....maybe the new bb will be aka the ceramic volcano...off course its all guessing
:-)

iLLGT2 · 26 January 2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mspeed76

They will support replacement FC parts forever..

Ive noticed the improvements made to FC over the years, from molding to finish.. in its current state with H serials it is perfect IMO. Compared to G series it seems harder and more matte whereas previous ones seemed more porous and grew more shiny over use.

Its a shame if it isn't used in newer models as it has all the properties desirable for a case

That's good to know/hear !!! Mine is under warranty for like 5 more years anyway lol, could care less..

My G serial however looks matte and like new and I wear it a lot ! So don't know the comparison well

Quote:

Originally Posted by boursachi

ceramic bee? really hope they do not mess with perfection
also isnt the bee a limited production anyway so what better time to stop producing them

re my previous post i forgot to add the Ginza as well

AGREED BRO.... They better just leave it be and let it discontinue, not make another version of it with a similar name (ceramic BEE) NO WAY !

And yes they say the Bumblebee is limited production..

Quote:

Originally Posted by scuba77

thats what I was thinking too , maybe the ceramic bee replacement will be orange like the diver is ...in which case the bb really does cease with FC model.....maybe the new bb will be aka the ceramic volcano...off course its all guessing
:-)

Anyway, in Orange would be pretty cool, would be too similar to the Lava piece though.

25 January 2013, 09:13 AM	#1
bobbystevenson "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 246	Forged Carbon Diver NOT Discontinued? That is part of Howard's report over on timezone. I asked directly and he confirmed. Is this the new consensus?

26 January 2013, 05:39 AM	#23
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	If the FC is discontinued after this year, what about replacement middle casings should the watch require it in the future? How long does AP stock replacement FC cases? __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

26 January 2013, 06:32 AM	#26
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	AP will still have thru 2013, After that it will be discontinued. And the focus will be on Ceramic watches. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

25 January 2013, 11:53 AM	#2
Hanz079 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Malaysia Posts: 195	I'd be happy if it's still in production. But if it does get discontinued, the ceramic version is not too bad too. Love the ceramic crowns...

25 January 2013, 01:38 PM	#3
bobbystevenson "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 246	I love the ceramic but prefer the yellow. Anybody know anything more about this?

25 January 2013, 02:29 PM	#4
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,946	I'm getting mixed messages. I had also confirmed with Howard that the FC Diver was discontinued. Maybe he meant after 2013? Either way, I've definitely heard that the intent is to eventually phase out the FC models in favor of ceramic. I wonder if that means a new all ceramic Bee??

25 January 2013, 03:15 PM	#13
bobbystevenson "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 246	Interesting. I admit it seemed odd that they would only discontinue one of the forged carbon models. However, it also seemed like it was 100% clear that the diver was to be discontinued as I think many of us asked for confirmation. If anyone gets anything more on this please let us know. Thanks...

25 January 2013, 07:10 PM	#14
boursachi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ME Posts: 321	so wait let us recap besides the limiteds: alinghi, grand prix, jarno trulli add the bumblebee as lp the only "standard" roos that had fc were the two 44 chronos and the yellow diver?

25 January 2013, 08:29 PM	#15
AshAP "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ash Location: UK Watch: AP Royal Oak Posts: 4,544	My dealer has just returned from SIHH and has said that the forged carbon models remain in the ROO lineup. The ceramic versions are additional models not replacement models.

25 January 2013, 08:38 PM	#16
Soly20 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Soly Location: UK/US Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 3,089	Maybe they will be releasing ceramic Bee? Well I am not buying anything before at least may this year, thats when I go back to the US. The dust should have settled by then, hopefully.

26 January 2013, 12:49 AM	#17
Bulliondesk Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: Howard100/101 Posts: 656	FC pieces will remain through 2013. After that discontinued.

26 January 2013, 01:11 AM	#20
craniotes Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Ad Rock Location: Manhattan Posts: 621	Yup, that seems to be the general consensus -- one more year of forged carbon, and then nada. While I'm still going full-tilt towards an FC Diver, this does give folks a bit more breathing room, though not much -- remember, these watches were never made in large amounts, and with the writing on the wall, I have every reason to believe that they will be in even shorter supply than before. This goes for ALL forged carbon-cased APs, btw, not just the Diver. Bottom line: If you want FC, get crackin'. Regards, Adam

26 January 2013, 07:34 AM	#27
mspeed76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: United States Watch: AP, RM Posts: 613	They will support replacement FC parts forever.. Ive noticed the improvements made to FC over the years, from molding to finish.. in its current state with H serials it is perfect IMO. Compared to G series it seems harder and more matte whereas previous ones seemed more porous and grew more shiny over use. Its a shame if it isn't used in newer models as it has all the properties desirable for a case

26 January 2013, 08:04 AM	#28
boursachi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ME Posts: 321	ceramic bee? really hope they do not mess with perfection also isnt the bee a limited production anyway so what better time to stop producing them re my previous post i forgot to add the Ginza as well

26 January 2013, 08:36 AM	#29
scuba77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 334	thats what I was thinking too , maybe the ceramic bee replacement will be orange like the diver is ...in which case the bb really does cease with FC model.....maybe the new bb will be aka the ceramic volcano...off course its all guessing :-)

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