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Old 22 August 2013, 02:40 PM   #1
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Rolex movements are based on ETA??

Hi guys:

i'm confused if Rolex movements are in-house made or based on ETA movements?
i've been collecting for almost 13yrs now and i've thought Rolex uses the in-house movement, but i had a conversation with Hublot assistance boutique manager and he was telling me Rolex is based on ETA not all in-house even with Daytona 4130 movement?

did i miss something here?
he also told me that he has been in watch industry for about a year and kept telling me that Rolex uses ETA and that's why Hublot started using ETA and now switching over to Unico.
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Old 22 August 2013, 02:44 PM   #2
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From what I understand, he is dead wrong.
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Old 22 August 2013, 02:44 PM   #3
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Um... No.

Apparently he hasn't learned much about watches in the last year.
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Old 22 August 2013, 04:08 PM   #4
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um... No.

Apparently he hasn't learned much about watches in the last year.
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Old 22 August 2013, 02:46 PM   #5
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agreed, i've told him TWICE rolex is in-house and was the first brand i started with and then he was saying even daytona uses ETA.
not sure how Hublot runs their boutiques with the staffs that lack of watch knowledges
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Old 22 August 2013, 09:28 PM   #6
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agreed, i've told him TWICE rolex is in-house and was the first brand i started with and then he was saying even daytona uses ETA.
not sure how Hublot runs their boutiques with the staffs that lack of watch knowledges
Go to a Rolex AD, they're not much more knowledgable in a lot of cases. Ask them about Hubolt...and see what they have to say.
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Old 22 August 2013, 02:48 PM   #7
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Maybe he was confusing Rolex with Tudor?
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Old 22 August 2013, 02:56 PM   #8
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Certainly confused he was. At one time the Daytona sported a Zenith movement - but that's changed and is now 100% in-house Rolex.

Where there is a tiny shred of truth is this: ETA and Rolex and others often use components that are from outside suppliers. Like the KIF shock system until Paraflex came out.

Also, they tend to lift each other's designs for components, too.

So the shred is this: All Swiss watch movements share a lot of the same DNA in the gene pool.
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Old 22 August 2013, 03:06 PM   #9
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Personally, you can trust the dealer guy, they are in the biz to sale watch and most of them no less then us watch freaks....
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Old 22 August 2013, 03:07 PM   #10
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personally, you can trust the dealer guy, they are in the biz to sale watch and most of them no less then us watch freaks....
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Old 22 August 2013, 03:33 PM   #11
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It's a Rolex, nuff said
Don't believe a hublot guy, hublot
It's a weird name anyways
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Old 22 August 2013, 03:37 PM   #12
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Hublot weird? They previously branded themselfs as MDM (Montre des Montres = The watches watch) - now that's weird
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Old 22 August 2013, 06:29 PM   #13
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Hublot weird? They previously branded themselfs as MDM (Montre des Montres = The watches watch) - now that's weird
...but what are they watching???
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Old 22 August 2013, 05:44 PM   #14
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No, Rolex is in house. Maybe he doesn't know what in house means.
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Old 22 August 2013, 05:54 PM   #15
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"he has been in watch industry for about a year "
Hublot has been in watch industry for about 33 years,
Rolex HAS BEEN IN WATCH INDUSTRY FOR ABOUT 108 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 23 August 2013, 01:12 AM   #16
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"he has been in watch industry for about a year "
Hublot has been in watch industry for about 33 years,
Rolex HAS BEEN IN WATCH INDUSTRY FOR ABOUT 108 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yuuup! Sure the sales guy is wrong n need to be corrected before he creates further fools of himself...n you may wanna tell him to surf Rolex website as well as THIS Rolexforums to brush up his Rolex knowledge...otherwise...continue to let him b a fool...somewhere down the line...I m sure he will know the truth one day...n b ashamed of himself...
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Old 23 August 2013, 08:38 AM   #17
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Yuuup! Sure the sales guy is wrong n need to be corrected before he creates further fools of himself...n you may wanna tell him to surf Rolex website as well as THIS Rolexforums to brush up his Rolex knowledge...otherwise...continue to let him b a fool...somewhere down the line...I m sure he will know the truth one day...n b ashamed of himself...

Acquire knowledge from the Rolex website? Now that's funny.
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Old 23 August 2013, 03:45 PM   #18
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Acquire knowledge from the Rolex website? Now that's funny.
Oops just make a fool out of myself! sharp eyes!
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Old 22 August 2013, 06:07 PM   #19
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did i miss something here?
Somebody missed something and it wasn't you.
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Old 22 August 2013, 06:14 PM   #20
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That's another "big bang" story from hublot! I guess the boutique asst manager hasn't heard of Google!
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Old 22 August 2013, 06:22 PM   #21
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Seeing that I just started to love watches a year ago and have learned ALOT thank to you guys here. Invite him to join trf to correct every misconception he has about rolex here.
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The assistance manager should be doing something else than watches...
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Old 22 August 2013, 06:31 PM   #23
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He is either trying to spook you into Hublot, or he is lacking passion on his day job.
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Old 22 August 2013, 06:38 PM   #24
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Rolex make their own movements, Tudor use modified ETA movements.
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Old 22 August 2013, 06:38 PM   #25
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What else he told you? I just bought some popcorn...
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What else he told you? I just bought some popcorn...

That made me laugh!!!!!!
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Old 22 August 2013, 08:15 PM   #28
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I have vintage Rolex with ETA movement but to answer your question no modern Rolex uses an ETA movement.
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Old 22 August 2013, 08:50 PM   #29
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I have vintage Rolex with ETA movement but to answer your question no modern Rolex uses an ETA movement.
This has probably been answered a few times but my research hasn't got me the information, would you be able to tell me when Rolex stopped using Zenith movements in the Daytona and ETA movements in their other watches?

EDIT: Peter beat me to it, thank you for the information guys!
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Hi guys:

i'm confused if Rolex movements are in-house made or based on ETA movements?
i've been collecting for almost 13yrs now and i've thought Rolex uses the in-house movement, but i had a conversation with Hublot assistance boutique manager and he was telling me Rolex is based on ETA not all in-house even with Daytona 4130 movement?

did i miss something here?
he also told me that he has been in watch industry for about a year and kept telling me that Rolex uses ETA and that's why Hublot started using ETA and now switching over to Unico.
Rolex movements are there own design except chronographs before 2000 as then Rolex had never made a chronograph movement. As they used movements from ETA Valjoux from the 1940s till around 1988/9. Then they used a ebauche movement from Zenith in the chronographs from 2000 on the cal 4130 in-house designed and made.But some of the most collectible and valuable Rolex watches don't even have a Rolex made movement in the case but ones form ETA Valjoux .
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