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jleonid · 22 September 2013, 09:29 PM

Hello

I'm new to this forum, and I was hoping someone could assist me in determining whether or not my fathers Rolex is authentic. He acquired the watch over ten years ago, and I believe it to be from 1986 or thereabouts. Now we don't know much about it as it was a gift, and it was damaged when he was hit by a car whilst riding his motorcycle. The watch is missing a lug, and has some scratching on the crystal. The watch was neglected for a while, and me, being me, thought i would pull it apart.

Whilst researching the Rolex brand, i was concerned with a few inconsistencies. Firstly, I was under the impression that the SM should click 120 times with a full bezel rotation. Before losing the clicking mechanism (after removing bezel), i counted 60 clicks. The next thing is that the clicking mechanism is different to what I have seen most commonly. Rather than use a pin, there is a hole on the flat surface which houses some sort of spring loaded ball bearing. The under side of the bezel does not look like an inverted gear. Rather, it looks like a bit more like a hole saw (without teeth, obviously). Apart from that, the bracelet numbers seem to indicate it is of 80's vintage, however, there are no serials on the watch body. Now i don't think they have been rubbed off intentionally. There is a lot of perfectly straight vertical scratching, which indicates that the lugs have perhaps rubbed against the body for some time. Now it is missing the cyclops, but it could have been removed at some point.

So this is basically everything I have looked at, short of the movement as I cannot remove the backing. Ill leave some photos for consideration, I hope someone can help out. I'm more than happy to help in any way. Also, the photo's could be better, perhaps they would be clearer during the day.

(Hopefully this is the right section)

Thanks
Jacob

bondtoys · 23 September 2013, 12:37 AM

Horrible fake!
Terrible pics btw

Lgear080 · 23 September 2013, 12:53 AM

Cake cake cake...
i meant - Fake fake fake

Cc1966 · 23 September 2013, 01:18 AM

Sorry for the bad news...Fakero

robertneville · 23 September 2013, 10:06 AM

nope, no good. sorry.

Goiguidoc · 23 September 2013, 03:30 PM

All fake, sorry.

crowncollection · 23 September 2013, 06:15 PM

Fake sorry:thumbdown:

bayerische · 23 September 2013, 06:48 PM

It is very fake.

RolexWatcher · 23 September 2013, 08:02 PM

Fake but more importantly I think you need install some lightbulbs in your house.

Bangel · 23 September 2013, 08:25 PM

I concur with everyone who has responded to this thread so far. It's fake.

jleonid · 23 September 2013, 11:14 PM

But, but... I quite like living in darkness. Besides, my cave does not have electricity installed. No, but in all honesty it was night time, and for some reason my iPhone has been taking blurry shots since upgrading to ios7.

Anyway, thank you for the very definitive answers. I did suspect as much. Can anyone elaborate on the clicking mechanism and whether or not it is 100% wrong? Is there any chance it has original movement/dial and is housed by second rate replacement parts?

Cheers

Lol-x · 23 September 2013, 11:37 PM

It is 100% fake, sorry.
This thread is now closed.

22 September 2013, 09:29 PM	#1
jleonid "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Aus Posts: 2	Submariner authentication help Hello I'm new to this forum, and I was hoping someone could assist me in determining whether or not my fathers Rolex is authentic. He acquired the watch over ten years ago, and I believe it to be from 1986 or thereabouts. Now we don't know much about it as it was a gift, and it was damaged when he was hit by a car whilst riding his motorcycle. The watch is missing a lug, and has some scratching on the crystal. The watch was neglected for a while, and me, being me, thought i would pull it apart. Whilst researching the Rolex brand, i was concerned with a few inconsistencies. Firstly, I was under the impression that the SM should click 120 times with a full bezel rotation. Before losing the clicking mechanism (after removing bezel), i counted 60 clicks. The next thing is that the clicking mechanism is different to what I have seen most commonly. Rather than use a pin, there is a hole on the flat surface which houses some sort of spring loaded ball bearing. The under side of the bezel does not look like an inverted gear. Rather, it looks like a bit more like a hole saw (without teeth, obviously). Apart from that, the bracelet numbers seem to indicate it is of 80's vintage, however, there are no serials on the watch body. Now i don't think they have been rubbed off intentionally. There is a lot of perfectly straight vertical scratching, which indicates that the lugs have perhaps rubbed against the body for some time. Now it is missing the cyclops, but it could have been removed at some point. So this is basically everything I have looked at, short of the movement as I cannot remove the backing. Ill leave some photos for consideration, I hope someone can help out. I'm more than happy to help in any way. Also, the photo's could be better, perhaps they would be clearer during the day. (Hopefully this is the right section) Thanks Jacob

23 September 2013, 01:18 AM	#4
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Sorry for the bad news...Fakero __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

23 September 2013, 10:06 AM	#5
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	nope, no good. sorry. __________________ Motocross is life!

23 September 2013, 06:15 PM	#7
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	Fake sorry:thumbdown: __________________ watches many

23 September 2013, 06:48 PM	#8
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	It is very fake. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

23 September 2013, 12:37 AM	#2
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,733	Horrible fake! Terrible pics btw

23 September 2013, 12:53 AM	#3
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Cake cake cake... i meant - Fake fake fake

23 September 2013, 03:30 PM	#6
Goiguidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: Europe Watch: Rolex vintage Posts: 1,062	All fake, sorry.

23 September 2013, 08:02 PM	#9
RolexWatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Vincent Location: LON HKG SYD Posts: 1,236	Fake but more importantly I think you need install some lightbulbs in your house.

23 September 2013, 08:25 PM	#10
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	I concur with everyone who has responded to this thread so far. It's fake.

23 September 2013, 11:14 PM	#11
jleonid "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Aus Posts: 2	But, but... I quite like living in darkness. Besides, my cave does not have electricity installed. No, but in all honesty it was night time, and for some reason my iPhone has been taking blurry shots since upgrading to ios7. Anyway, thank you for the very definitive answers. I did suspect as much. Can anyone elaborate on the clicking mechanism and whether or not it is 100% wrong? Is there any chance it has original movement/dial and is housed by second rate replacement parts? Cheers

23 September 2013, 11:37 PM	#12
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,563	It is 100% fake, sorry. This thread is now closed. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

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