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Farris · 24 September 2013, 07:19 AM

Well Guys,

I have narrowed my next watch down to two options and I have shopped around from the best prices I can get.

I would like to really thank some of you who shared your contacts. It really is much appreciated and shows how great this forum is!

With the Patek, the best price I could get is 15% off Swiss list price, compared to 28% off the AP.

So this is how it works out:
£43,500 at a 15% discount for the Nautilus Chrono
VS
£24,600 with a 28% discount for the AP

Which would you go for considering:

Looks
Value - there is a substantial difference in price
Quality
Repair and Service Times
Resale
Status

Presa canary · 24 September 2013, 07:24 AM

1-6 nautilus.

singe89 · 24 September 2013, 07:36 AM

just my opinion

Looks - AP - I like royal oak shape and the layout of the sub dials more
Value - AP
Quality - Case, bracelet and dial are about even with edge to Patek for the inhouse movement
Repair and Service Times - AP
Resale - Patek - But its a newer release so if larger discounts can be had in the future it could lower resale value.
Status - Patek

For the price difference I would go with the RG ROC and get a SS Nautilus.

steveclocks · 24 September 2013, 07:43 AM

the Patek looks really small on your wrist man!
I like both the AP and the Patek

AK797 · 25 September 2013, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by singe89

just my opinion

Looks - AP - I like royal oak shape and the layout of the sub dials more
Value - AP
Quality - Case, bracelet and dial are about even with edge to Patek for the inhouse movement
Repair and Service Times - AP
Resale - Patek - But its a newer release so if larger discounts can be had in the future it could lower resale value.
Status - Patek

For the price difference I would go with the RG ROC and get a SS Nautilus.

Just what I wrote on the Patek forum

ROs in gold and Nautilus' in steel for me.

ec00421 · 24 September 2013, 07:31 AM

It really depends on your collection imo... I personally prefer roc out of those two. The only nautilus i like is the 5712

h999r · 24 September 2013, 08:02 AM

Patek for me, but as Geert said, on your wrist looks better AP , bigger watch.

OzgurTurk · 24 September 2013, 08:03 AM

1-6 Patek

B. Doggy · 24 September 2013, 08:42 AM

AP. You still enjoy much more bang for your buck with the brand. At least for now. Status might have to go to PP, but only by a tight margin IMO.

Demonoid · 24 September 2013, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b. Doggy

ap. You still enjoy much more bang for your buck with the brand. At least for now. Status might have to go to pp, but only by a tight margin imo.

x 100

FeelingTheBlues · 24 September 2013, 08:46 AM

Again, I'll have to go with the AP but I'm not into status symbols so I cannot fully put myself in your shoes. I'd prefer to go with the looks and the quality/history of the brand and though both have great reputations regarding the last two points I happen to prefer the ROC.

cdnyc · 24 September 2013, 09:05 AM

Patek looks too small on your wrist.

HL65 · 24 September 2013, 09:12 AM

Personally like the Patek but either way you won't go wrong!

Lamkyle · 24 September 2013, 09:31 AM

Patek patek patek in this case

Demonoid · 24 September 2013, 09:34 AM

With the money you spend on the Patek you can have 2 Ap's.

Both brands are amazing and are my top two brands. You really can go wrong either way. Good luck.

benlee · 24 September 2013, 10:05 AM

I will give it a go, though I don't own either I have seen both close up.

Looks - depend where your taste swing, but I prefer the ROC more shiny bracelet

Value - No contest here isn't it? AP wins hands down

Quality - The PP is marginally better build and finish IMHO.

Repair and Service Times - there is a thread in PP forum talking about PP's extra long service time. So this is obvious.

Resale - PP is well know to hold value better. However, as with all gold pieces, you take a bigger initial hit when reselling. This is also a new PP model so not sure of the reception yet as it is barely in 2nd hand market

Status - PP

So overall, the law of diminishing returns as I don't think the Nautilus is twice the watch of the AP ROC. I will go for the AP ROC unless money is no object. Will actually prefer the black dial over white as I think it matches and contrast with the RG case better.

Just my 2 cents.

kilyung · 24 September 2013, 12:22 PM

Looks - PP
Value - AP
Quality - PP
Repair and Service Times - AP
Resale - PP
Status - PP

By the thinnest margin, I'd pick the PP but then it's on my "must have someday" list.

DreambreaX · 24 September 2013, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Looks - PP
Value - AP
Quality - PP
Repair and Service Times - AP
Resale - PP
Status - PP

By the thinnest margin, I'd pick the PP but then it's on my "must have someday" list.

for me:

looks = ap
value = ap

these 2, looks and value have the most important point than the others.

so ap ftw!

el1125 · 14 January 2014, 10:01 AM

PP by miles

Randy · 14 January 2014, 10:34 AM

AP looks better on your wrist

QueueCumber · 24 September 2013, 01:02 PM

Lol... Same people, different sub-forum...

PP for all of the above............

In 5+ years you can buy another piece to wear while the 5980 is being serviced...

Sam Philip · 24 September 2013, 01:02 PM

I would get the Patek

Hairdude1 · 24 September 2013, 01:05 PM

Patek

SigloII · 24 September 2013, 01:47 PM

I personally don't see them as comparable due to the massive price difference.
AP ROC is an AP ROC, it 'might' compare to a steel Nautilus 5980.

Like others, I prefer the Nautilus by a thin margin - but only due to trying it on and inspecting it in person. The quality is clearly a hair above AP, not to mention the resale value and rarity.

run100z · 24 September 2013, 02:19 PM

AP. The PP looks like a button on your wrist.

Audemars Piguet · 24 September 2013, 02:32 PM

Ap

Soly20 · 24 September 2013, 02:59 PM

Patek for me if I had to buy one of these 2.

DreambreaX · 24 September 2013, 03:40 PM

the nautilus has very ugly design. the movement is jewel, but the case design is cheap 90 dollars watch,

take a look at AP chrono pusher, is way more solid elegant feel. the crown is also looks more elegant. the bracelet looks nicer. and the 8 screws on the bezel gives the character!

patek is very small compare to your big wrist.

overall the AP is way more classy. AP FTW!

QueueCumber · 24 September 2013, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreambreaX

the nautilus has very ugly design. the movement is jewel, but the case design is cheap 90 dollars watch,

take a look at AP chrono pusher, is way more solid elegant feel. the crown is also looks more elegant. the bracelet looks nicer. and the 8 screws on the bezel gives the character!

patek is very small compare to your big wrist.

overall the AP is way more classy. AP FTW!

Funny, the cases of both of these watches was designed by the same person: Gerald Genta.

In any case, this pic shows a more scaled comparison of the sizes:

diver2012 · 24 September 2013, 05:26 PM

I'd get the AP - but with a black face.

The AP looks much better on you than the PP.

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24 September 2013, 07:19 AM	#1
Farris "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: London and Kuwait Posts: 112	AP Royal Oak Chrono Vs Patek Nautilus Chrono Well Guys, I have narrowed my next watch down to two options and I have shopped around from the best prices I can get. I would like to really thank some of you who shared your contacts. It really is much appreciated and shows how great this forum is! With the Patek, the best price I could get is 15% off Swiss list price, compared to 28% off the AP. So this is how it works out: £43,500 at a 15% discount for the Nautilus Chrono VS £24,600 with a 28% discount for the AP Which would you go for considering: Looks Value - there is a substantial difference in price Quality Repair and Service Times Resale Status Attached Images

24 September 2013, 08:42 AM	#9
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	AP. You still enjoy much more bang for your buck with the brand. At least for now. Status might have to go to PP, but only by a tight margin IMO. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

24 September 2013, 08:46 AM	#11
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	Again, I'll have to go with the AP but I'm not into status symbols so I cannot fully put myself in your shoes. I'd prefer to go with the looks and the quality/history of the brand and though both have great reputations regarding the last two points I happen to prefer the ROC. __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

24 September 2013, 09:12 AM	#13
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,222	Personally like the Patek but either way you won't go wrong! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

24 September 2013, 07:24 AM	#2
Presa canary "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Justin Location: Pa Watch: Explorer ii Posts: 3,155	1-6 nautilus.

24 September 2013, 07:36 AM	#3
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,752	just my opinion Looks - AP - I like royal oak shape and the layout of the sub dials more Value - AP Quality - Case, bracelet and dial are about even with edge to Patek for the inhouse movement Repair and Service Times - AP Resale - Patek - But its a newer release so if larger discounts can be had in the future it could lower resale value. Status - Patek For the price difference I would go with the RG ROC and get a SS Nautilus.

24 September 2013, 07:43 AM	#4
steveclocks "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Geert Location: Belgium Watch: rolex/JLC/panerai Posts: 5,612	the Patek looks really small on your wrist man! I like both the AP and the Patek

24 September 2013, 07:31 AM	#6
ec00421 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NY Posts: 513	It really depends on your collection imo... I personally prefer roc out of those two. The only nautilus i like is the 5712

24 September 2013, 08:02 AM	#7
h999r Banned Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: HR Location: Planet Earth Watch: -ing Barts. Posts: 4,244	Patek for me, but as Geert said, on your wrist looks better AP , bigger watch.

24 September 2013, 08:03 AM	#8
OzgurTurk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Ozgur Location: Istanbul Posts: 42	1-6 Patek

24 September 2013, 09:05 AM	#12
cdnyc "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Cory Location: NY Posts: 681	Patek looks too small on your wrist.

24 September 2013, 09:31 AM	#14
Lamkyle "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Kyle Location: HK Watch: Those from my wife Posts: 669	Patek patek patek in this case

24 September 2013, 09:34 AM	#15
Demonoid 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Logan Location: USA Posts: 2,516	With the money you spend on the Patek you can have 2 Ap's. Both brands are amazing and are my top two brands. You really can go wrong either way. Good luck.

24 September 2013, 10:05 AM	#16
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,874	I will give it a go, though I don't own either I have seen both close up. Looks - depend where your taste swing, but I prefer the ROC more shiny bracelet Value - No contest here isn't it? AP wins hands down Quality - The PP is marginally better build and finish IMHO. Repair and Service Times - there is a thread in PP forum talking about PP's extra long service time. So this is obvious. Resale - PP is well know to hold value better. However, as with all gold pieces, you take a bigger initial hit when reselling. This is also a new PP model so not sure of the reception yet as it is barely in 2nd hand market Status - PP So overall, the law of diminishing returns as I don't think the Nautilus is twice the watch of the AP ROC. I will go for the AP ROC unless money is no object. Will actually prefer the black dial over white as I think it matches and contrast with the RG case better. Just my 2 cents.

24 September 2013, 12:22 PM	#17
kilyung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,950	Looks - PP Value - AP Quality - PP Repair and Service Times - AP Resale - PP Status - PP By the thinnest margin, I'd pick the PP but then it's on my "must have someday" list.

14 January 2014, 10:01 AM	#19
el1125 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA Posts: 3,578	PP by miles

14 January 2014, 10:34 AM	#20
Randy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Ohio Watch: AP, Rolex, Panerai Posts: 1,241	AP looks better on your wrist

24 September 2013, 01:02 PM	#21
QueueCumber "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Q Location: The Q Continuum Watch: ST:TNG Posts: 8,466	Lol... Same people, different sub-forum... PP for all of the above............ In 5+ years you can buy another piece to wear while the 5980 is being serviced...

24 September 2013, 01:02 PM	#22
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	I would get the Patek

24 September 2013, 01:05 PM	#23
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Patek

24 September 2013, 01:47 PM	#24
SigloII "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Toronto Posts: 83	I personally don't see them as comparable due to the massive price difference. AP ROC is an AP ROC, it 'might' compare to a steel Nautilus 5980. Like others, I prefer the Nautilus by a thin margin - but only due to trying it on and inspecting it in person. The quality is clearly a hair above AP, not to mention the resale value and rarity.

24 September 2013, 02:19 PM	#25
run100z "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Watch: AP, Breguet, Rolex Posts: 44	AP. The PP looks like a button on your wrist.

24 September 2013, 02:32 PM	#26
Audemars Piguet "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Alex Location: Europe Watch: AP Posts: 5,252	Ap

24 September 2013, 02:59 PM	#27
Soly20 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Soly Location: UK/US Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 3,089	Patek for me if I had to buy one of these 2.

24 September 2013, 03:40 PM	#28
DreambreaX Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Rolex Estate Posts: 1,304	the nautilus has very ugly design. the movement is jewel, but the case design is cheap 90 dollars watch, take a look at AP chrono pusher, is way more solid elegant feel. the crown is also looks more elegant. the bracelet looks nicer. and the 8 screws on the bezel gives the character! patek is very small compare to your big wrist. overall the AP is way more classy. AP FTW!

24 September 2013, 05:26 PM	#30
diver2012 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 1,374	I'd get the AP - but with a black face. The AP looks much better on you than the PP.

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