The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Vintage Rolex Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 16 December 2013, 01:35 AM   #1
Rwatts
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 34
Pepsi ... "Right Now"

Incoming ... 1972 Rolex GMT 1675

I've been searching for a vintage pepsi in excellent condition for some time now and recently came across this one at a local jeweler that specializes in vintage and estate watches. It has a red stripe service sticker on the caseback but appears to be all original. Any feedback you can provide would be greatly appreciated.



Rwatts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 01:45 AM   #2
Lucky777
"TRF" Member
 
Lucky777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Real Name: Steve
Location: NJ
Watch: Rolex 16610
Posts: 2,160
Looks absolutely gorgeous


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Lucky777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 01:46 AM   #3
Floorguy
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
Floorguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Real Name: Rob
Location: Parrish fl.
Watch: Tt datejust 16233
Posts: 20,952
Love it!
__________________
Rolex
Omega
Tag Heuer
Floorguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 01:48 AM   #4
apollo11
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: CO
Watch: BLNR Hotness
Posts: 153
That's a real beauty, congrats!
apollo11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 02:22 AM   #5
Oryx
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: London
Posts: 1,894
I think that swing tag looks a bit faded - best that you pass

Btw please send me the contact details for your local jeweller

On a serious note - it looks awesome
Oryx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 02:27 AM   #6
strafer_kid
"TRF" Member
 
strafer_kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Real Name: Kenny
Location: northern ireland
Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs
Posts: 5,136
Looks very nice indeed!
strafer_kid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 03:00 AM   #7
madgoncalves
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: NYC
Watch: '85 1680, AP RO
Posts: 148
Sweet!
madgoncalves is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 03:15 AM   #8
FTX I
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Real Name: Flavio
Location: N/A
Posts: 14,654
Awesome!
FTX I is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 04:27 AM   #9
travisb
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
travisb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Real Name: Travis
Location: FL / NYC
Watch: Yes..
Posts: 33,430
They look better with age. Really nice!
travisb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 04:34 AM   #10
Chainring
"TRF" Member
 
Chainring's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Real Name: Steve
Location: Grand Junction CO
Watch: A few, not enough.
Posts: 1,725
Great looking 1675. I'd be surprised if that insert is original but who cares. The hands and dial seem to match and look great. Congrats on a great find.
Chainring is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 05:31 AM   #11
bayerische
"TRF" Member
 
bayerische's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Andreas
Location: Margaritaville
Watch: Smurf
Posts: 19,879
Nice one.
__________________
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
bayerische is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 05:35 AM   #12
up2nogood
"TRF" Member
 
up2nogood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Alex
Location: Sydney, Australia
Watch: Idiot Savant
Posts: 1,944
Bottom lugs look to be different lengths. Bezel a bit worn.
But that's a pretty bad pic, hard to tell for sure.
Bracelet looks to be stretched.
up2nogood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 05:58 AM   #13
nick c
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 26,846
Very nice
nick c is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 07:50 AM   #14
Ector495
"TRF" Member
 
Ector495's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: North Carolina
Watch: 16622
Posts: 1,097
Great example for the ref. Can't go wrong with a Pepsi!
Ector495 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 09:35 AM   #15
Rwatts
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 34
Thanks for all the feedback ... I love this forum! Here is a wrist shot. You can see the lugs are equal length and are flush with the end links. When held out, there's little to no bow in the bracelet and the clasp is very tight when snapping it on. The watch appears to be hardly worn which is why I'm hoping the bezel appears to be too fresh. I hope it will fade to a cool ice blue color with wear. The only signs of age I can see are the patina on the hands and markers and the dial has a very slight brown/tropical tinge to it. Can anyone confirm the dial variation ... MK2?

Thanks again!

Rwatts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 09:47 AM   #16
Old Expat Beast
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
 
Old Expat Beast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Adam
Location: Far East
Watch: Golden Tuna
Posts: 28,797
Stunning.
__________________
_______________________
Old Expat Beast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 10:27 AM   #17
GeoGio Greece
"TRF" Member
 
GeoGio Greece's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Real Name: George
Location: Athens, Greece
Watch: es --> A lot !
Posts: 2,327
Hands and bezel look very "shiny". Maybe they are replacements.

If you buy and pay for a vintage, have them checked.

If you buy just a nice GMT, then you got a bargain, but for the good order sake, have a look inside as well.
__________________
Rolex owner since 1971. 5513 and 16700 the loved ones.

DJ WG Jubilee 16170 for wife - U series

Oyster Perpetual WG 177234 for daughter V-series
GeoGio Greece is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 10:21 AM   #18
Rwatts
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 34
Dial Variation ... MK2?
Rwatts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 10:24 AM   #19
CaveDiver
"TRF" Member
 
CaveDiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,075
Do the minute, hour and second hands glow? Nothing wrong with replaced lumina hands, but it bothers some folks.
CaveDiver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 10:40 AM   #20
Rwatts
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 34
Great advice guys! I can't believe I didn't check. It guess it's so easy to get caught up in the moment.
Rwatts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 11:16 AM   #21
anilzat
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Real Name: John Williams
Location: Alaska outback
Watch: GMT
Posts: 1,051
Looks new old stock. Great ticker no matter what it costs.
anilzat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 11:32 AM   #22
Rickster
"TRF" Member
 
Rickster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Real Name: Rick
Location: London, Ont.
Posts: 666
Big congrats looks like a beauty.
Rickster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 11:44 AM   #23
MitchSteel
"TRF" Member
 
MitchSteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Real Name: MDangerSteel
Location: Canada
Watch: Vintage Rolex
Posts: 2,301
Not to raise any concerns, but that second hand looks a bit off to me.The luminous circle should just touch the tip of the hour hand.
Is this fron Darlor by chance?
__________________
Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

Probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival---Capt. Rage

Don't believe anything in aviation, 'till V1---Mitch Danger Steel
MitchSteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 11:57 AM   #24
springer
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
springer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: jP
Location: Texas
Watch: GMT-MASTER
Posts: 17,308
The seconds hand is genuine and the correct length. The 16750 GMT seconds hand was shorter. (The aftermarket seconds hands do not taper from the tritium circle to the tip like on a genuine hand.) Additionally, when the tritium circle from the seconds hand crosses over the hour hand, it should cross over the middle of the tip of the hour hand like on this watch. All the hands appear to be genuine Rolex.

The dial is a Mark II circa 1971. The bezel insert is a Rolex replacement but so are most bezel inserts on 40-year-old watches.

The green hang tag does not belong to the watch and if the red tag has a hologram, it does not belong either.

Enjoy your watch, it appears to be in great condition for the age.
__________________
Member of NAWCC since 1990.

INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP
Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.
springer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 12:07 PM   #25
Rwatts
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by springer View Post
The seconds hand is genuine. Some are longer than others. The aftermarket seconds hands do not taper from the tritium circle to the tip like on a genuine hand. The dial is a Mark II circa 1971. The bezel insert is a Rolex replacement but so are most bezel inserts on 40-year-old watches.

The green hang tag does not belong to the watch and if the red tag has a hologram, it does not belong either.

Enjoy your watch, it appears to be in great condition for the age.

Cool! Good to know. In that case, assuming MitchSteel is right about the luminous ball on the second hand just touching the tip of the hour hand, could the hour hand be a replacement? Do you know if they vary from the original?
Rwatts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 12:14 PM   #26
MitchSteel
"TRF" Member
 
MitchSteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Real Name: MDangerSteel
Location: Canada
Watch: Vintage Rolex
Posts: 2,301
Im not claiming to be an expert on vintage Rolex by any means, but what I wrote earlier was a polite way of saying, the hands were replacement.I may be wrong, and YES, the hands can be replaced of course.Now, look, if it is a good deal, I would NOT turn it down, just because the hands are off.The rest of the watch looks good, maybe you've got a swinging deal on that unit, if that's the case, good on ya mate
Just my thoughts
__________________
Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

Probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival---Capt. Rage

Don't believe anything in aviation, 'till V1---Mitch Danger Steel
MitchSteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 12:15 PM   #27
MitchSteel
"TRF" Member
 
MitchSteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Real Name: MDangerSteel
Location: Canada
Watch: Vintage Rolex
Posts: 2,301
Is this from Darlor?
__________________
Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

Probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival---Capt. Rage

Don't believe anything in aviation, 'till V1---Mitch Danger Steel
MitchSteel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 12:26 PM   #28
Rwatts
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by MitchSteel View Post
Is this from Darlor?

Thanks! I appreciate all input. I now suspect that the minute and hour hands may be replacements or as one member put it, "new old stock" ... love it!

Having said that, it seems strange that they would need replacing when everything else appears to be original and in good shape, no? Do you know if this is not uncommon?
Rwatts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 December 2013, 12:39 PM   #29
springer
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
springer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: jP
Location: Texas
Watch: GMT-MASTER
Posts: 17,308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rwatts View Post
Cool! Good to know. In that case, assuming MitchSteel is right about the luminous ball on the second hand just touching the tip of the hour hand, could the hour hand be a replacement? Do you know if they vary from the original?
There is nothing in the photos you posted indicating they are replacement hands unless they glow substantially in the dark. There is nothing in your photos that I see indicating they are aftermarket hands and additionally, I have never seen an aftermarket seconds hand that looks like a genuine Rolex one. Below is a "rough draft" diagram for all the GMT police!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg GMT hands.sm.jpg (107.5 KB, 62 views)
__________________
Member of NAWCC since 1990.

INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP
Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.
springer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 December 2013, 02:46 AM   #30
Cc1966
"TRF" Member
 
Cc1966's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Real Name: Christopher
Location: Georgia, USA
Watch: ing the Sea...
Posts: 6,713
Quote:
Originally Posted by springer View Post
There is nothing in the photos you posted indicating they are replacement hands unless they glow substantially in the dark. There is nothing in your photos that I see indicating they are aftermarket hands and additionally, I have never seen an aftermarket seconds hand that looks like a genuine Rolex one. Below is a "rough draft" diagram for all the GMT police!
Super!!! Thx John.
__________________

"I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way."
Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778
"Curmudgeons " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc
Cc1966 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

Asset Appeal

Wrist Aficionado

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.