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Carlos · 20 January 2014, 11:31 AM

I am looking for a 1973 (born year) 1680 red sub. I foud this one on e-bay. I would appreciate your comments.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-VINTAG...item1e85a03c78

Best,

Jason71 · 20 January 2014, 11:42 AM

Lugs are thin and over polished. Price is high for that watch. I would definitely pass

springer · 20 January 2014, 11:44 AM

Looks like a Mark IV dial with a 384XXXX serial number which is close to the end of the line for red Subs. Information available on red Sub dials indicates that the mark IV, V and VI are within the range for serial number 384XXXX.

The watch seems to be described fairly well by the seller. It looks like a typical 40-year-old watch. The lugs are not depicted well in the photos and appear uneven in width. The bracelet has been replaced along with the bezel insert - neither of which seem to be a stumbling block for red Subs. The end links were used on the 93150 bracelet and reference material lists the 593 end links for a GMT 16760.

The seller is reputable and the price is something that you and the seller have to be comfortable with in the end.

Beaumont Miller II · 20 January 2014, 11:45 AM

There are nicer ones out there. Dial has lots of chips in the hash marks, case is pretty soft with loss of chamfers on lugs, pitting between lugs, and a purist would prefer 580 endlinks on the bracelet. There are other issues as well. Price is pretty high for a loose watch.

Carlos · 20 January 2014, 11:49 AM

Thank you for your thoughts!

CrownMe · 20 January 2014, 12:26 PM

Not a bad watch if it was at 10k for that price it would have to have a original insert, nicer bracelet and a much better case. keep looking my friend. Enjoy the hunt

GGGMT · 20 January 2014, 02:03 PM

Here's one from ermitage, for a lot less money and apparently in better shape, though it's hard to tell comparatively:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-US

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sunnyd · 21 January 2014, 08:57 AM

Don't mean to piggyback off your thread but what do you guys think of this Red? Price seems high but it's a complete set:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370943210323...84.m1423.l2649

20 January 2014, 11:31 AM	#1
Carlos "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Quito - Ecuador Watch: Rolex GMT II-C Posts: 75	What do you think about this watch? I am looking for a 1973 (born year) 1680 red sub. I foud this one on e-bay. I would appreciate your comments. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-VINTAG...item1e85a03c78 Best, __________________ Carlos Rolex GMT II-C 116710 LN Omega Seamaster 210.90.42.20.01.001

20 January 2014, 11:42 AM	#2
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Lugs are thin and over polished. Price is high for that watch. I would definitely pass __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

20 January 2014, 11:44 AM	#3
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,308	Looks like a Mark IV dial with a 384XXXX serial number which is close to the end of the line for red Subs. Information available on red Sub dials indicates that the mark IV, V and VI are within the range for serial number 384XXXX. The watch seems to be described fairly well by the seller. It looks like a typical 40-year-old watch. The lugs are not depicted well in the photos and appear uneven in width. The bracelet has been replaced along with the bezel insert - neither of which seem to be a stumbling block for red Subs. The end links were used on the 93150 bracelet and reference material lists the 593 end links for a GMT 16760. The seller is reputable and the price is something that you and the seller have to be comfortable with in the end. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

20 January 2014, 11:45 AM	#4
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	There are nicer ones out there. Dial has lots of chips in the hash marks, case is pretty soft with loss of chamfers on lugs, pitting between lugs, and a purist would prefer 580 endlinks on the bracelet. There are other issues as well. Price is pretty high for a loose watch. __________________

20 January 2014, 11:49 AM	#5
Carlos "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Quito - Ecuador Watch: Rolex GMT II-C Posts: 75	Thank you for your thoughts! __________________ Carlos Rolex GMT II-C 116710 LN Omega Seamaster 210.90.42.20.01.001

20 January 2014, 12:26 PM	#6
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	Not a bad watch if it was at 10k for that price it would have to have a original insert, nicer bracelet and a much better case. keep looking my friend. Enjoy the hunt

20 January 2014, 02:03 PM	#7
GGGMT 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,336	Here's one from ermitage, for a lot less money and apparently in better shape, though it's hard to tell comparatively: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-US Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21 January 2014, 08:57 AM	#8
sunnyd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: CA Watch: me watch you Posts: 461	Don't mean to piggyback off your thread but what do you guys think of this Red? Price seems high but it's a complete set: http://www.ebay.com/itm/370943210323...84.m1423.l2649

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