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Max72 · 31 January 2014, 02:35 AM

I'm having problem with the seller, he doesn't want to refund me the money and eBay wants further proof that the crystal and the packaging are fake.
The problem is that I returned the crystal to the seller because he said he was going to refund me the money. Now, he of course, changed his tune. He even accused me of switching crystals to keep a "rare original"
eBay is going to side with him if I can't provide documentation like an affidavit or something that states that the item is FAKE.
In the end I'll lose the money and end up without crystal.

I provided ebay with several pictures of authentic Rolex glassine bags and compared them with the one he sent me, compared the fonts used and the lack of the SWISS MADE print etc. I don't know what else to do.

here is the original thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...64#post4698864

springer · 31 January 2014, 02:59 AM

How about a link to the item as listed on ebay.

Max72 · 31 January 2014, 03:17 AM

here you go.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171096753929...84.m1439.l2648

Also on the VRF these packaging type has been deemed FAKE and strangely enough coming out of California, same state where the eBay seller is based.
what I think is that he's selling aftermarket stuff repacked to bump the price higher.

Lgear080 · 31 January 2014, 03:46 AM

Have you called eBay directly?

Paypal?

Sunny Arizona · 31 January 2014, 03:56 AM

I would submit a paypal complaint and with your CC. If you used AMEX they will freeze the funds immediately

Tools · 31 January 2014, 04:32 AM

Closed..

There is no point on posting multiple threads of the same subject..

RNS510 · 31 January 2014, 04:31 AM

[QUOTE=Max72;4698867] He even accused me of switching crystals to keep a "rare original"

That makes it sound as though the seller and the buyer agree that what was returned to the Seller was a fake. That being the case, what Ebay is asking you to prove is that you returned what you received.

31 January 2014, 02:35 AM	#1
Max72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Chicago Watch: Explorer II 1655 Posts: 220	Help with eBay scam: eBay is siding with seller I'm having problem with the seller, he doesn't want to refund me the money and eBay wants further proof that the crystal and the packaging are fake. The problem is that I returned the crystal to the seller because he said he was going to refund me the money. Now, he of course, changed his tune. He even accused me of switching crystals to keep a "rare original" eBay is going to side with him if I can't provide documentation like an affidavit or something that states that the item is FAKE. In the end I'll lose the money and end up without crystal. I provided ebay with several pictures of authentic Rolex glassine bags and compared them with the one he sent me, compared the fonts used and the lack of the SWISS MADE print etc. I don't know what else to do. here is the original thread: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...64#post4698864

31 January 2014, 02:59 AM	#2
springer 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,473	How about a link to the item as listed on ebay. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

31 January 2014, 04:32 AM	#6
Tools TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,681	Closed.. There is no point on posting multiple threads of the same subject.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

31 January 2014, 03:17 AM	#3
Max72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Chicago Watch: Explorer II 1655 Posts: 220	here you go. http://www.ebay.com/itm/171096753929...84.m1439.l2648 Also on the VRF these packaging type has been deemed FAKE and strangely enough coming out of California, same state where the eBay seller is based. what I think is that he's selling aftermarket stuff repacked to bump the price higher.

31 January 2014, 03:46 AM	#4
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,505	Have you called eBay directly? Paypal?

31 January 2014, 03:56 AM	#5
Sunny Arizona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Brad Location: Colorado Watch: 222470 Posts: 1,267	I would submit a paypal complaint and with your CC. If you used AMEX they will freeze the funds immediately

31 January 2014, 04:31 AM	#7
RNS510 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Rick S. Location: Morristown, TN Watch: Explorer 1; Bluesy Posts: 74	[QUOTE=Max72;4698867] He even accused me of switching crystals to keep a "rare original" That makes it sound as though the seller and the buyer agree that what was returned to the Seller was a fake. That being the case, what Ebay is asking you to prove is that you returned what you received.

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