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bwood74 · 8 March 2014, 12:09 PM

Does the hands look off?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-Vintage...item3a8cb68e8b

CrownMe · 8 March 2014, 12:44 PM

case is def not over polished. the crown guards look odd to me though

GGGMT · 8 March 2014, 12:55 PM

Crown guards look ground down somewhat

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SubKing · 8 March 2014, 01:01 PM

Great refinish job on the lugs who ever did it.. very nice and crisp chamfers.

Kevin, I see exactly what you're talking about buddy.

At first glance, the crown guards looked off to me as well, pointed almost..

looking at them from the side in the other pictures, they look ok, not amazing, but ok.

I think the shine is causing a little of an optical illusion making the guards look pointed a little.. normally the flat beveled area of the guards is brushed finish and it seems they polished that area too much taking off the bevel. in the end, guards are over polished but I have seen much much worse. Love the watch tho. a bit high for what it is IMO.

CrownMe · 8 March 2014, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SubKing

Great refinish job on the lugs who ever did it.. very nice and crisp chamfers.

Kevin, I see exactly what you're talking about buddy.

At first glance, the crown guards looked off to me as well, pointed almost..

looking at them from the side in the other pictures, they look ok, not amazing, but ok.

I think the shine is causing a little of an optical illusion making the guards look pointed a little.. normally the flat beveled area of the guards is brushed finish and it seems they polished that area too much taking off the bevel. in the end, guards are over polished but I have seen much much worse. Love the watch tho. a bit high for what it is IMO.

You are right the crown guards look just fine in the other pictures. Nice watch but a bit pricey

nsumner · 8 March 2014, 01:23 PM

I bet ABC did the work. They have a relationship with the seller.

SubKing · 8 March 2014, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nsumner

I bet ABC did the work. They have a relationship with the seller.

x2

ABC are the only ones I know who can refinish their lugs with chamfers like that.. They use a big expensive lapping polish machine that cuts perfect chamfers and makes a perfect starburst brush grain on the lugs. that is the only way someone can do a polish job like that. the watch case is placed is a holder and it is adjusted by a couple knobs, then it slides on a rail to the spinning disk plates for that factory finish. as far as I know, these machines are capable of three finishes, starburst, straight grain and high polish

god I wish I had one... what I could do....

CrownMe · 8 March 2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SubKing

x2

ABC are the only ones I know who can refinish their lugs with chamfers like that.. They use a big expensive lapping polish machine that cuts perfect chamfers and makes a perfect starburst brush grain on the lugs. that is the only way someone can do a polish job like that. the watch case is placed is a holder and it is adjusted by a couple knobs, then it slides on a rail to the spinning disk plates for that factory finish. as far as I know, these machines are capable of three finishes, starburst, straight grain and high polish

god I wish I had one... what I could do....

I would love to see this machine in action. Would be cool to watch your own case be refinished

SubKing · 9 March 2014, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownMe

I would love to see this machine in action. Would be cool to watch your own case be refinished

Kevin,
It would either be very cool or very scary

I prefer to watch someone else's go under the knife first

CrownMe · 9 March 2014, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SubKing

Kevin,
It would either be very cool or very scary

I prefer to watch someone else's go under the knife first

Only scary if it chews the case to pieces

southtexas · 8 March 2014, 02:19 PM

Hands look good to me. Watch is a little pricey but could just be the market these days?

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adam78 · 11 March 2014, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by southtexas

Hands look good to me. Watch is a little pricey but could just be the market these days?

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The accepted best offer was actually $9,999, not the 12,995 it listed for. I know a trick to find that out, now that eBay doesn't directly list it. Looks like a very nice example.

Ben39 · 8 March 2014, 03:33 PM

Very nice overall condition red!

crowncollection · 8 March 2014, 03:46 PM

Professionally done that is for sure looks great

Vincent65 · 8 March 2014, 07:02 PM

To me, appealing dial patination and insert and overall appearance. Having said that, the hour plots at 8, 9 and 10 are a little 'grubby' but not bad. It's been serviced half a dozen or so times, and that accounts for the 'eroded' case/crown-guards, unfortunately. Clean and well refinished though. I think 13 grand is a lot.

Cc1966 · 9 March 2014, 12:00 AM

Great looking piece. Does not seem pricey to me. That is the market value currently for that RED in that condition IMHO (emphasis on "humble). Good luck on your decision.

JerimiahLee · 9 March 2014, 01:51 PM

Definitely refinished case with those chamfers. As mentioned most likely ABC, I've seen one they did recently and it looks very similar.

Smartyjones18 · 10 March 2014, 07:22 PM

I just happened to buy this watch on ebay. At least it's got some mixed opinions here.

cruvon · 10 March 2014, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smartyjones18

I just happened to buy this watch on ebay. At least it's got some mixed opinions here.

Congrats, do post pics when you get it, stunning patina!

Smartyjones18 · 11 March 2014, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cruvon

Congrats, do post pics when you get it, stunning patina!

I only noticed this thread after the seller has accepted my offer. Hope to receive it soon and will post pictures for more experts' advice.

Many thanks
George

Gaijin · 15 March 2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Smartyjones18

I only noticed this thread after the seller has accepted my offer. Hope to receive it soon and will post pictures for more experts' advice.

Many thanks
George

Nice job George! Congratulations!

Cc1966 · 11 March 2014, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Smartyjones18

I just happened to buy this watch on ebay. At least it's got some mixed opinions here.

George, as I stated above, I really like this piece...and if you got it for less, all the better mate!

sdwtchlvr · 11 March 2014, 02:11 AM

Nice looking piece. And I would love to see one of those lapping machines in action too.

applebook · 11 March 2014, 03:04 AM

Curious, how much does ABC charge for lug refinishing? What is their turnaround like?

What most hacks do to Rolex cases should be illegal.

Smartyjones18 · 11 March 2014, 05:23 AM

Yup, it's $9999. But the seller has not responded to me even I'd paid, strange.

nycpassat · 11 March 2014, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Smartyjones18

Yup, it's $9999. But the seller has not responded to me even I'd paid, strange.

Not to worry, Hillstreetwatches is a part of ABC watchwerks

Smartyjones18 · 15 March 2014, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nycpassat

Not to worry, Hillstreetwatches is a part of ABC watchwerks

Great, they responded and actually watch is already here in Singapore pending custom clearance, will get it Monday. Thanks

dysondiver · 11 March 2014, 05:32 AM

looking good

wantonebad · 11 March 2014, 06:19 AM

must... get... chamfers... machine!!!!

southtexas · 15 March 2014, 03:15 PM

Awesome! Can't wait to see some pics.

Congrats...now, are you gonna make some endlinks for it? I personally would be very curious to see them...

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8 March 2014, 12:09 PM	#1
bwood74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: virginia Posts: 58	Overpolished or nice Red example? Does the hands look off? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-Vintage...item3a8cb68e8b

8 March 2014, 02:19 PM	#11
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,761	Hands look good to me. Watch is a little pricey but could just be the market these days? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

8 March 2014, 03:46 PM	#14
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	Professionally done that is for sure looks great __________________ watches many

9 March 2014, 12:00 AM	#16
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Great looking piece. Does not seem pricey to me. That is the market value currently for that RED in that condition IMHO (emphasis on "humble). Good luck on your decision. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

11 March 2014, 03:04 AM	#24
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	Curious, how much does ABC charge for lug refinishing? What is their turnaround like? What most hacks do to Rolex cases should be illegal. __________________

8 March 2014, 12:44 PM	#2
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	case is def not over polished. the crown guards look odd to me though

8 March 2014, 12:55 PM	#3
GGGMT 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,336	Crown guards look ground down somewhat Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 March 2014, 01:01 PM	#4
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	Great refinish job on the lugs who ever did it.. very nice and crisp chamfers. Kevin, I see exactly what you're talking about buddy. At first glance, the crown guards looked off to me as well, pointed almost.. looking at them from the side in the other pictures, they look ok, not amazing, but ok. I think the shine is causing a little of an optical illusion making the guards look pointed a little.. normally the flat beveled area of the guards is brushed finish and it seems they polished that area too much taking off the bevel. in the end, guards are over polished but I have seen much much worse. Love the watch tho. a bit high for what it is IMO.

8 March 2014, 01:23 PM	#6
nsumner "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Nathaniel Location: Wisconsin Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,991	I bet ABC did the work. They have a relationship with the seller.

8 March 2014, 03:33 PM	#13
Ben39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Ben Location: Asia Watch: Gilt sub Posts: 1,669	Very nice overall condition red!

8 March 2014, 07:02 PM	#15
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	To me, appealing dial patination and insert and overall appearance. Having said that, the hour plots at 8, 9 and 10 are a little 'grubby' but not bad. It's been serviced half a dozen or so times, and that accounts for the 'eroded' case/crown-guards, unfortunately. Clean and well refinished though. I think 13 grand is a lot.

9 March 2014, 01:51 PM	#17
JerimiahLee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Jerimiah Location: NYC Watch: 5513 Meters 1st Posts: 669	Definitely refinished case with those chamfers. As mentioned most likely ABC, I've seen one they did recently and it looks very similar.

10 March 2014, 07:22 PM	#18
Smartyjones18 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Singapore Posts: 769	I just happened to buy this watch on ebay. At least it's got some mixed opinions here.

11 March 2014, 02:11 AM	#23
sdwtchlvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,308	Nice looking piece. And I would love to see one of those lapping machines in action too.

11 March 2014, 05:23 AM	#25
Smartyjones18 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Singapore Posts: 769	Yup, it's $9999. But the seller has not responded to me even I'd paid, strange.

11 March 2014, 05:32 AM	#28
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	looking good

11 March 2014, 06:19 AM	#29
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	must... get... chamfers... machine!!!! __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

15 March 2014, 03:15 PM	#30
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,761	Awesome! Can't wait to see some pics. Congrats...now, are you gonna make some endlinks for it? I personally would be very curious to see them... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

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