No Interest in Panerai on TRF

[Survivor]

Seems like interest in Panerai has virtually fallen off the cliff on TRF........has Panerai lost its luster????????

[ELITEVIDEOGAMES]

It still has more people in the subforum than Patek, AP, Breitling ect.. so i dont think so.

[KBM]

What makes you say that? Granted, on a brand dedicated forum like TRF, the majority of flux is going to be directed at the object brand, but there are plenty of PAM admirers/owners/collectors here too.

[psv]

Originally Posted by Survivor

Seems like interest in Panerai has virtually fallen off the cliff on TRF........has Panerai lost its luster????????

Yes, I talked to three different ADs during the last week as I'm hunting my next piece, and they all say that Panerai sales is slowing down. But also that Panerai owners are dedicated and normally only look at Panerai models.

[DONGinsler]

Originally Posted by psv

Yes, I talked to three different ADs during the last week as I'm hunting my next piece, and they all say that Panerai sales is slowing down.

Maybe it's only appears as if it's slowing down as there's more AD's now and a larger number of watches available from Panerai, so they don't sell out as quickly.

Used to be that the max. number was 1000 - 1500 pieces and a handful of watches, but now 2500+ for some models and quite a variety

DON

[psv]

Originally Posted by DONGinsler

Maybe it's only appears as if it's slowing down as there's more AD's now and a larger number of watches available from Panerai, so they don't sell out as quickly.

Used to be that the max. number was 1000 - 1500 pieces and a handful of watches, but now 2500+ for some models and quite a variety

DON

Nope, the only measurement is how many watches you of a specific brand you sell per week and month.

[antbkny]

im actually interested in adding one to my collection

[Cru Jones]

Nope.

[CWIN]

I'm still pretty smitten with Panerai personally. I plan on adding one some time this year.

[thsiao]

I think so... speaking of person experience. Somehow I feel that they have lost me with their now boring and repetitive designs, bad reputation when it comes to servicing watches, and the way they handle the distribution of limited edition pieces.

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by thsiao

I think so... speaking of person experience. Somehow I feel that they have lost me with their now boring and repetitive designs, bad reputation when it comes to servicing watches, and the way they handle the distribution of limited edition pieces.

I felt this way also as a big collector of Panerai, not to mention the fact how hard it was to get SE's and the hoopla involved (and I know the NA CEO) and my friend owns PANERAI boutiques... no I don't expect priority but kinda? Was just too much BS over nothing lol

But guess what, so I went crazy with AP, Patek, etc... all have become repetitive feeling after owning 3-6 of each... all were underwhelming in terms of reliability, service, etc...

So don't think it's just with Panerai !

Anyway i'm back with Panerai and have been enjoying them, as well as my others, and don't have ill feelings anymore towards PAM considering the BS involved with the other brands too... such is life

All of these brands are overvalued, overhyped, and not worth the money they ask ! I'm slowing down overall as watches are becoming a bit boring and as I had mentioned, underwhelming. My Patek 5712 broke, 5960p in 2 weeks and my 5167 not keeping great time.............. oh and my AP panda having issues, Grand Prix had issues , Legacy had issues.......

[watchguru007]

Originally Posted by thsiao

i think so... Speaking of person experience. Somehow i feel that they have lost me with their now boring and repetitive designs, bad reputation when it comes to servicing watches, and the way they handle the distribution of limited edition pieces.

spot on!

[nick c]

There are still my favorite my 000 505 332

[jhcam8]

Originally Posted by nick c

There are still my favorite my 000 505 332

Nice on the arm, Nick.

[nick c]

Thx Jim

[psv]

Limited edition pieces are only fun if you do them once in a blue moon, the way e.g. Panerai and Audemers Piguet keep doing LE's just drives me bonkers.

[thsiao]

Originally Posted by psv

Limited edition pieces are only fun if you do them once in a blue moon, the way e.g. Panerai and Audemers Piguet keep doing LE's just drives me bonkers.

And what do you think of Hublot's LEs? ... EVERY watch is a LE!

[Travelller]

In terms of interest, it's quality vs. quantity.

Take the subset of Rolex owners that are into vintage pieces and the history behind the brand, compared to the set of all Rolex owners; Do the same with Panerai and the ratio is quite different:

Rolex: 1\1000? Panerai 1\5?

We don't need the extra traffic - just good quality conversations

Originally Posted by thsiao

...the way they handle the distribution of limited edition pieces...

Originally Posted by psv

Limited edition pieces are only fun if you do them once in a blue moon, the way e.g. Panerai and Audemers Piguet keep doing LE's...

See, that's my problem with the now-old complaint of too many LEs... in Vienna we have three very prominent ADs and yet I've only seen a handful of SE/LEs... . So I don't buy the too many LE/SE complaint because in the real world, getting one is a whole other story... :-/

Brian, can you recommend a brand that has a more reasonable policy for the distribution of SE/LEs?

[nick c]

Panerai never goes out of style

[Andad]

Originally Posted by nick c

Panerai never goes out of style

x2.

[nick c]

Originally Posted by directioneng

x2.

Love it

[thsiao]

Originally Posted by Travelller

Brian, can you recommend a brand that has a more reasonable policy for the distribution of SE/LEs?

Let me clarify my issue with them... I'm not saying that they have too many LEs (though they kinda do), what I'm complaining about is how they decide who to sell it to. It seems like the same people (people with connections to boutique managers) keep getting the hard to get LEs just do they can then flip them for an absurd price. How many people with the first bronzo have you seen that also owns (or have bought) the second bronzo as well? Too many... And that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[lig]

Not for me. Still a regular in the rotation. I'm just annoyed that I can't get a 382 or 507 at MSRP.

[Time Collector]

Originally Posted by Survivor

Seems like interest in Panerai has virtually fallen off the cliff on TRF........has Panerai lost its luster????????

I still love my Panerai watches and I don't think that they have lost their luster because of low activity on the Panerai forum of TRF. I can only speak for myself, but I also have Rolex watches in my stable, so when I log on to TRF, I make a bee line for the Rolex general discussion Forum. That doesn't mean that I lost interest in the Panerai. On the flip side of the coin, if I want to really have a discussion about Pam's, I usually go to the Panerist.com .
So I guess if you ask this same question over there, you will probably get a more in depth response.

[raclaims]

I never liked them in the first place...but yes I personally think the bloom is off the rose for the general populous but the dedicated fans are still loyal from what I've seen.

[psv]

I'd rather go without a watch than wear any Hublot. Ever.

[kilyung]

Happy with what I have so not much to share... at least until the next SIHH.

[subtona]

Sometimes i love em & sometimes not so much but their originality & uniqueness clearly set them apart from the competition, of this there can be no denying.

They somehow seem to stir my passion from dormancy with such little effort it surprises me every time. I find that the things i thought were originally desirable in the brand are now completely opposite and i have done this several times, yet each time i am certain i have nailed them down.

Imho there will always be a place for panerai, their style is undeniable, those dials are like no other and strap changing is just darn enjoyable!

I wont say they are my favorite, but sometimes, they are!

[Starbucksboss]

Originally Posted by Survivor

Seems like interest in Panerai has virtually fallen off the cliff on TRF........has Panerai lost its luster????????

Well it has for me...I bought a titanium Pam and simply have to say it was the worst watch I ever had. Uncomfortable , vibrated , hands corroded after 2 years & went back to Panerai SFO and they sent back twice to their SC to resolve . Then went back again because reserve was non existent for service , still reserve was crap , OEM leather straps overpriced and not very good , ruined all my shirt cuffs. Apart from all this it was great. Never again.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by Starbucksboss

Well it has for me...I bought a titanium Pam and simply have to say it was the worst watch I ever had. Uncomfortable , vibrated , hands corroded after 2 years & went back to Panerai SFO and they sent back twice to their SC to resolve . Then went back again because reserve was non existent for service , still reserve was crap , OEM leather straps overpriced and not very good , ruined all my shirt cuffs. Apart from all this it was great. Never again.

Too bad for your experience, which you've repeated a few times here. Just to say, the "vibration" is actually a characteristic of that classic movement (the wobble) that you probably had based on your description, which either one likes or one doesn't, and your corrosion was probably due to you letting water get into the watch. And for every 100 acceptable service experiences, there's always one that slips through the cracks for any brand, and it's that one that inevitably gets talked about on the Internet.

Anyway, Panerai isn't for everyone. Good thing there are lots of great choices.