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Old 16 May 2014, 02:08 PM   #1
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Old 16 May 2014, 02:12 PM   #2
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Old 16 May 2014, 02:14 PM   #3
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That's quite a mark-up from the MSRP...
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Old 16 May 2014, 02:21 PM   #4
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What about the SeaKing?
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Old 16 May 2014, 02:31 PM   #5
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What about the SeaKing?
Please... not again.
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Old 16 May 2014, 04:07 PM   #6
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What about the SeaKing?
It's like a nightmare we are having to live again. SMH.
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Old 16 May 2014, 02:23 PM   #7
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Old 16 May 2014, 02:49 PM   #8
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That's sad. Would have rather him set up a fund me acct and I would have been glad to donate to help him out. He deserves to keep the watch he earned it.
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Old 16 May 2014, 03:10 PM   #9
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That's sad. Would have rather him set up a fund me acct and I would have been glad to donate to help him out. He deserves to keep the watch he earned it.
Tom, I'd do the exact same. Would donate to help him out so he can keep watch forever.
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Old 16 May 2014, 03:43 PM   #10
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"What color is the boathouse and Hereford"?

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Old 16 May 2014, 03:47 PM   #11
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"What color is the boathouse and Hereford"?

"how the fk should i know"

nice one.
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Old 16 May 2014, 04:09 PM   #12
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"how the * should i know"

nice one.
"You want to tell me about an ambush! I just ambushed you with a cup of coffee."

It's interesting that they would engrave the side of the case.
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Old 16 May 2014, 10:25 PM   #13
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"What color is the boathouse and Hereford"?


You know the answer he should have given?

"It's pronounced Heh-reh-ford, not 'Heerford', you dolt."

Always bugs me that no one corrected DeNiro.
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Old 17 May 2014, 01:50 AM   #14
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You know the answer he should have given?

"It's pronounced Heh-reh-ford, not 'Heerford', you dolt."

Always bugs me that no one corrected DeNiro.
nobody corrects deniro... that's a director's career ending move.
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Old 22 May 2014, 01:58 AM   #15
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Awesome movie...no Rolex spotting though . Two of my favorite cars in that movie however, the BMW E34 M5 and the Audi D2 S8. I sold my M5 but still have my S8 (and yes, that movie made me want both!).
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Old 22 May 2014, 02:22 AM   #16
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Awesome movie...no Rolex spotting though . Two of my favorite cars in that movie however, the BMW E34 M5 and the Audi D2 S8. I sold my M5 but still have my S8 (and yes, that movie made me want both!).
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Old 16 May 2014, 03:03 PM   #17
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But it has no provenance other than being owned by an ex. SAS Soldier and not likely in theatre given its condition. The engraved caseback is cool but the etching on the side kills it IMHO.

Before I joined TRF I helped an active ODA 18D buddy of mine move a beat to hell 16570 for a for a 14060M that had been worn on numerous deployments with his SFG and who achieved many accolades for his service ... Never made any mention of that in the sale because anonymity is important to him, but mainly because he's really just another dude. It obviously wasn't an issued watch but can say he's a known stud in the SOF world today and has saved many lives. That said, unless Rolex did the engraving all I'm seeing is an overpriced watch.
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Old 16 May 2014, 03:12 PM   #18
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That would be really cool to own for someone who actually was SAS.

Other than than that it is an engraved Rolex Explorer II. It would be like as if someone were to take a stock "Rolex GMT Master 11" and put a case back on it with an engraving of say a Sea King helicopter and then post it for sale with a 300% markup.....
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meh.

i think one of the best attributes of milspec or militaria grade watches are the stories they can tell. this one doesn't do much on that end.

shame about the owner needing to sell but there's others who sacrificed all who'll never get to buy a timex, let alone a rolex.

just my 2.
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Old 16 May 2014, 04:32 PM   #20
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That would be really cool to own for someone who actually was SAS.

Other than than that it is an engraved Rolex Explorer II. It would be like as if someone were to take a stock "Rolex GMT Master 11" and put a case back on it with an engraving of say a Sea King helicopter and then post it for sale with a 300% markup.....
Or a class ring or whatever... For this reason I dislike the JLC Navy SEALs line. I realize they're a catalog item for JLC and that most SEALs have likely never seen one let alone bother owning one, but I could never feel comfortable having never rated as one.

I could see someone scooping this up as an impulse buy just to own but if I saw "who dares wins" engraved on some guys watch better believe I'm going to inquire about it.
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Old 18 May 2014, 12:36 PM   #21
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Or a class ring or whatever... For this reason I dislike the JLC Navy SEALs line. I realize they're a catalog item for JLC and that most SEALs have likely never seen one let alone bother owning one, but I could never feel comfortable having never rated as one.

I could see someone scooping this up as an impulse buy just to own but if I saw "who dares wins" engraved on some guys watch better believe I'm going to inquire about it.
I wasn't aware of the JLC SEAL line. Luminox is famous for that, too. I don't know how many SEAls wear them. NFW has introduced the Walt Shumate line of dive watches. A member of this forum who is an active duty SF officer had some input on the design. They are actually good quality watches and are fairly popular with guys on SCUBA teams. And a lot of retired SF guys. Some have the SF crest on the face. There was a 7th SFG(A) edition for a while.

I am not surprised that some of these SAS editions are going to be up for sale. A lot of people out there will gladly pay the inflated price to own one. Same with the Special Reconnaissance Regiment Exp II. I won't speculate on why, as long as they don't make wild claims. While the SAS is justifiably world renowned, the troopers aren't paid much. The chance to make a 300% profit is attractive. I know several MACV SOG guys who have sold their famous SOG issue items just because they are getting up there and can use the bucks. Sad, but true.

From what I understand from the SRR edition, Rolex does the engraving. This edition was reported on this forum to be awarded for achievement, not for sale. IDK if that's correct. What baffles me is the "Who Dares Wins" on the side. The SAS truly have been traditionally very secretive and low key, like CAG (Delta.) Unlike SEALs. And if you dispute this, go to Amazon. New memoir every day. BTW, like your screen name! I used to go by 11B4SierraWhiskey7. Then it got changed to that 18 thing.
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Old 20 May 2014, 07:46 AM   #22
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I wasn't aware of the JLC SEAL line. Luminox is famous for that, too. I don't know how many SEAls wear them. NFW has introduced the Walt Shumate line of dive watches. A member of this forum who is an active duty SF officer had some input on the design.

When I read this post it rang a bell. I have an 1803 DD that I believe belonged to Walt Shumate. I got it back in 1990 from a retired SF guy who I worked with back in Washington, DC and who apparently got it from Walt.

It was only after reading this thread that I thought back trying to remember the name of the guy I got it from. I know he died some time ago so I looked up Walt on Google hoping to find out. I didn't realize all the stuff he did that made him kind of famous. The SF dive school in Key West is named after Walt.

So I decided to look at the only paperwork I got with the watch, an appraisal by a Jeweler in Fayetteville, NC done for Walt. The watch dates from the early 60's but I don't know if Walt was the original owner and I doubt it. But this sure is a case of 'if this watch could talk'!






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Old 20 May 2014, 04:56 PM   #23
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From what I understand from the SRR edition, Rolex does the engraving. This edition was reported on this forum to be awarded for achievement, not for sale. IDK if that's correct. What baffles me is the "Who Dares Wins" on the side. The SAS truly have been traditionally very secretive and low key, like CAG (Delta.) Unlike SEALs. And if you dispute this, go to Amazon. New memoir every day. BTW, like your screen name! I used to go by 11B4SierraWhiskey7. Then it got changed to that 18 thing.
Yeah my ASIs weren't nearly as cool nor impressive as yours. 11 'sierra' was long gone once I enlisted (in my 30s now). Little time in Batt, 82nd, LRSD, and finished my enlistment scooping up students at Mackall LvlC.

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You have a real treasure there! Guard it closely. Whatever you do, protect that documentation. And if you ever feel charitable, donate it to the JFK SWC Museum. I know that they'd love to have it! Thanks for posting!
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Old 16 May 2014, 03:46 PM   #24
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Considering it's unworn it probably wouldn't have much to say
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Old 17 May 2014, 03:01 AM   #26
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If that watch could talk...
I'd be boring ; The watch sat in it's box from day one .
Who can buy such a watch ? You can't buy the honor of having deserved what the watches represents .

I might as well put "12V Ferrari "on the back of my Fiat .
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If that watch could talk...
It would say wear me.....said it was in mint condition....obvious it was never worn.
Beautiful engravings on the case back. People go crazy for rare things... If Rolex did the engravings...someone would pay more then £20,000 at an auction.
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it would say wear me.....said it was in mint condition....obvious it was never worn.
Beautiful engravings on the case back. People go crazy for rare things... If rolex did the engravings...someone would pay more then £20,000 at an auction.
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It's called the free market.

I think the shameful aspect is that it might fall into the hands of some fraud who likes to tell "war stories" at his local watering hole.

Maybe one of the unit members who got left out might see it and snatch it up.

The general public might not have much interest, but among a select legitimate few, it might be worth the premium.

It seems obvious, though, that the seller doesn't care one way or the other.
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