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harrjaso · 30 May 2014, 06:58 PM

Saw this in post about 16600. Is below true? The "Swiss" Luminova dial was only produced for 18 months?

Dial / Lume.... 1998 is the accepted cut off date for Tritium and the tritium dial will read '' Swiss-T<25". Super Luminova was then introduced, dials marked "Swiss" appeared for 18 mos then, to the end of production, "Swiss Made"

harrjaso · 30 May 2014, 07:00 PM

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SPACE-DWELLER · 30 May 2014, 08:22 PM

Yeah, that's true enough... 1998 LumiNova, then Super-LumiNova from year 2000.

There is no difference in the lume despite one being called "Super"... the name was changed due to company changes:

http://wornandwound.com/2013/08/23/s...ce-in-watches/

So only small difference is the "SWISS" (previously designating the use of the highly radio-active Radium) instead of "SWISS MADE"...

alanc · 30 May 2014, 08:28 PM

Thanks for the information. Coincidentally, I have been stalking 16600's in the last few days and was wondering myself about the "Swiss" designation, having seen it on two circa - 2000 SD's for sale.

Old Expat Beast · 30 May 2014, 08:38 PM

It can also mean service dial. I had a Swiss dial fitted to my 1989 Sub 5513 last year.

Clay · 30 May 2014, 11:26 PM

You will find the "SWISS" only dial on the "A" series 16600...

MortgageGuy · 31 May 2014, 12:01 AM

Very good info thank you

subtona · 31 May 2014, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

It can also mean service dial. I had a Swiss dial fitted to my 1989 Sub 5513 last year.

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Originally Posted by Clay

You will find the "SWISS" only dial on the "A" series 16600...

A serial & i have read a few may be found in the U & P serials as well.

Also A serial Swiss dials are not unique to SD, they are seen on others such as subs & explorers etc...

Clay · 31 May 2014, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

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A serial & i have read a few may be found in the U & P serials as well.

True…!!!

psv · 31 May 2014, 12:17 AM

The "SWISS" only dial has no affect on the price what-so-ever, only us WIS-nerds even notice ;-)

R.W.T. · 31 May 2014, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

The "SWISS" only dial has no affect on the price what-so-ever, only us WIS-nerds even notice ;-)

Not yet....

psv · 31 May 2014, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by R.W.T.

Not yet....

Don't kid yourself, it has been out there on the Subs, SD's etc since 98-00, they were produced in the many thousands and if it hasn't affected the price yet, it won't. It is a nice little oddity but it will never effect the price.

subtona · 31 May 2014, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

Don't kid yourself, it has been out there on the Subs, SD's etc since 98-00, they were produced in the many thousands and if it hasn't affected the price yet, it won't. It is a nice little oddity but it will never effect the price.

if there were two side by side for sale "swiss made" or "swiss" , all the rest being equal.

and there was a $1 difference, would you consider the dollar or consider which dial you prefer?

if you would choose the dial you prefer, is this not a affecting the price?

Tools · 31 May 2014, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrjaso

Saw this in post about 16600. Is below true? The "Swiss" Luminova dial was only produced for 18 months?

Dial / Lume.... 1998 is the accepted cut off date for Tritium and the tritium dial will read '' Swiss-T<25". Super Luminova was then introduced, dials marked "Swiss" appeared for 18 mos then, to the end of production, "Swiss Made"

No, it is not true.. Nobody, and I mean nobody, can know that any Rolex was produced for exactly 18 months. It is generally accepted that when Luminova dials were introduced in ~98, they continued into ~99 using "Swiss" throughout the line, then settled on "Swiss Made" for whatever reason, but there is always carryover at both ends.. The 16600 didn't get special treatment here.

As Spacey mentioned, they are all the same patented product, LuminNova/SuperLumiNova. Nemoto & Co. simply changed the name when they built the factory to specifically cater to the Swiss Watch Industry.

anothernewphone · 31 May 2014, 02:42 AM

My "Swiss" dial is a service dial on my GMT.

harrjaso · 31 May 2014, 07:50 AM

In my limited experience with Rolex I've learned that, over time, even the most minute details gain significance. Only time will tell.

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30 May 2014, 06:58 PM	#1
harrjaso Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Jason Location: Hawaii, US Watch: Daytona 6263 Posts: 537	Sea Dweller version only produced for 18 months Saw this in post about 16600. Is below true? The "Swiss" Luminova dial was only produced for 18 months? Dial / Lume.... 1998 is the accepted cut off date for Tritium and the tritium dial will read '' Swiss-T<25". Super Luminova was then introduced, dials marked "Swiss" appeared for 18 mos then, to the end of production, "Swiss Made"

30 May 2014, 08:22 PM	#3
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Yeah, that's true enough... 1998 LumiNova, then Super-LumiNova from year 2000. There is no difference in the lume despite one being called "Super"... the name was changed due to company changes: http://wornandwound.com/2013/08/23/s...ce-in-watches/ So only small difference is the "SWISS" (previously designating the use of the highly radio-active Radium) instead of "SWISS MADE"... __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

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31 May 2014, 07:50 AM	#16
harrjaso Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Jason Location: Hawaii, US Watch: Daytona 6263 Posts: 537	Sea Dweller version only produced for 18 months In my limited experience with Rolex I've learned that, over time, even the most minute details gain significance. Only time will tell. Sent from an iPhone on a secluded island

30 May 2014, 07:00 PM	#2
harrjaso Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Jason Location: Hawaii, US Watch: Daytona 6263 Posts: 537	Sent from an iPhone on a secluded island

30 May 2014, 08:28 PM	#4
alanc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Alan Location: Connecticut Watch: 114270 16710B Posts: 1,062	Thanks for the information. Coincidentally, I have been stalking 16600's in the last few days and was wondering myself about the "Swiss" designation, having seen it on two circa - 2000 SD's for sale.

30 May 2014, 08:38 PM	#5
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,797	It can also mean service dial. I had a Swiss dial fitted to my 1989 Sub 5513 last year.

30 May 2014, 11:26 PM	#6
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	You will find the "SWISS" only dial on the "A" series 16600...

31 May 2014, 12:17 AM	#10
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	The "SWISS" only dial has no affect on the price what-so-ever, only us WIS-nerds even notice ;-)

31 May 2014, 02:42 AM	#15
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	My "Swiss" dial is a service dial on my GMT.

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