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Old 25 June 2014, 10:55 PM   #1
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Pictures of Milgauss with Big Magnets

Haven't seen any photos of Milgauss being used in high magnetic fields so thought I'd kick this off. Here is mine with a 300mhz NMR. Post some pics of your Milgauss being used around magnets. Any other Milgauss owners working in Chemistry, Physics or Radiology?

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Old 25 June 2014, 11:06 PM   #2
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Very nice ! Great pic
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Old 25 June 2014, 11:08 PM   #3
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Old 26 June 2014, 01:23 AM   #4
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Old 26 June 2014, 10:05 AM   #5
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That's awesome!! Great pic. Nice NMR.
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Old 26 June 2014, 10:25 AM   #6
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Whoops, my photo turned out too big.... sorry that was my first post.
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Old 26 June 2014, 05:37 AM   #7
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Thanks! Someone other than me has to be using this "tool watch" in or close to it's intended enviroment.
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Old 26 June 2014, 05:42 AM   #8
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Thanks! Someone other than me has to be using this "tool watch" in or close to it's intended enviroment.
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Old 26 June 2014, 05:42 AM   #9
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Talk about real-world testing! Congrats!
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Old 26 June 2014, 05:48 AM   #10
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cool pic!! Im around MRI all the time but no Milguass!!
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Old 26 June 2014, 06:05 AM   #11
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Doesn't the Omega Aqua Terra -gauss- have more magnetic resistance than the Milgauss?
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Old 26 June 2014, 07:11 AM   #12
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Doesn't the Omega Aqua Terra -gauss- have more magnetic resistance than the Milgauss?
yep but different methods of resistance...my understanding is the aqua terra's components aren't susceptible to magnetic fields, whereas the milgauss uses a Faraday cage
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Old 28 June 2014, 12:01 PM   #13
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yep but different methods of resistance...my understanding is the aqua terra's components aren't susceptible to magnetic fields, whereas the milgauss uses a Faraday cage
The original Milgauss from the 1950s relied solely on a shield.

The current Milgauss (released in 2007) continues to use the shield, but also uses anti-magnetic components (i.e. balance spring, balance wheel, pallet fork).

The current resistance is likely higher than the decades old name suggests.
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Has anyone or rolex ever conducted a resistance test on the new milgauss?
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Old 29 June 2014, 09:04 AM   #15
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Has anyone or rolex ever conducted a resistance test on the new milgauss?
It would be interesing to see just how resistant its become.
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Old 26 June 2014, 07:19 AM   #16
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cool pic!! Im around MRI all the time but no Milguass!!
Sounds like an excellent reason to get one.


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Doesn't the Omega Aqua Terra -gauss- have more magnetic resistance than the Milgauss?
I'm not familiar with the Omega, but a quick trip to Omega's web site shows it capable of operating in a 15000 gauss magnetic field which is impressive.

I suspect the current Milgauss is overengineered and capable of operating in more than the 1000 gauss field it is rated/named for. At some point it's like a DSSD you know you'll never go that deep but it's a pretty cool feature to have.
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Old 29 June 2014, 11:03 AM   #17
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Doesn't the Omega Aqua Terra -gauss- have more magnetic resistance than the Milgauss?
Yes. Omega does it by using materials in the movement that are amagnetic rather than "shielding" like the Milgauss. So it is really an apples to oranges comparison.
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Old 26 June 2014, 07:14 AM   #18
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Great picture, thanks for sharing.
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Old 26 June 2014, 07:24 AM   #19
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Fantastic photo! :)
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Old 26 June 2014, 08:17 AM   #20
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Haven't seen any photos of Milgauss being used in high magnetic fields so thought I'd kick this off. Here is mine with a 300mhz NMR.
Wait, hold on. You've got to explain that to us a little ... :)
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Old 26 June 2014, 12:53 PM   #21
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Wait, hold on. You've got to explain that to us a little ... :)
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The instrument in the picture is a 300mhz NMR - Nuclear Magnetic Resonance. It is used for the identification and characterization of molecules both chemical and biological. The 300mhz is the size of the magnet which equates to about 7 Tesla or 70000 Gauss. Way beyond the limits of these watches and the magnets get bigger. Now that full magnetic field is only really around the sample which in this case is a spinning narrow tube. The yellow line on the floor is a 5 gauss line - that's the strength of the field there - as you get closer it increases. If the instrument weren't an "ultra-shield" the 5 gauss line would be further back - 20 years ago it would have been in the next room and there would have been a magnetic field of a few hundred gauss where I'm standing - messing up my mechanical watch. These moden instruments use a second magnet to cancel out the field of the first.

MRI uses a similar concept to characterize anatomy. In this case the magnet spins as the sample er... patient cannot. These are in the 6-15 tesla range which I'm thinking is what the patient would be exposed to. Again 60000 - 150000 gauss is way beyond the capability of the watch so not appropriate for a patient to wear and really dangerous. A radiologist working around an MRI would potentially benefit from the shielding of a Milgauss. Anyone working with MRIs please chime in. Hospitals also go to great lengths to shield the magnetic fields MRI emit as they can interfere with instruments and devices such as ventilators and pacemakers.

These magnets are powerful and expensive starting in the 6 figure range and going up to several million. I've heard stories of keys and tools getting stuck to these magnets, and once stuck it's there for a long while as the cost to quench and restore a cryo-superconducting magnet is more than a Rolex. I have also read stories of hospital gurneys flying across the room into the MRI.

All that said I'm not really an expert on this as I'm more of an X-ray crystallographer, so you real experts please feel free to elaborate.
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Old 26 June 2014, 08:51 PM   #22
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The instrument in the picture is a 300mhz NMR - Nuclear Magnetic Resonance. It is used for the identification and characterization of molecules both chemical and biological. The 300mhz is the size of the magnet which equates to about 7 Tesla or 70000 Gauss. Way beyond the limits of these watches and the magnets get bigger. Now that full magnetic field is only really around the sample which in this case is a spinning narrow tube. The yellow line on the floor is a 5 gauss line - that's the strength of the field there - as you get closer it increases. If the instrument weren't an "ultra-shield" the 5 gauss line would be further back - 20 years ago it would have been in the next room and there would have been a magnetic field of a few hundred gauss where I'm standing - messing up my mechanical watch. These moden instruments use a second magnet to cancel out the field of the first.

MRI uses a similar concept to characterize anatomy. In this case the magnet spins as the sample er... patient cannot. These are in the 6-15 tesla range which I'm thinking is what the patient would be exposed to. Again 60000 - 150000 gauss is way beyond the capability of the watch so not appropriate for a patient to wear and really dangerous. A radiologist working around an MRI would potentially benefit from the shielding of a Milgauss. Anyone working with MRIs please chime in. Hospitals also go to great lengths to shield the magnetic fields MRI emit as they can interfere with instruments and devices such as ventilators and pacemakers.

These magnets are powerful and expensive starting in the 6 figure range and going up to several million. I've heard stories of keys and tools getting stuck to these magnets, and once stuck it's there for a long while as the cost to quench and restore a cryo-superconducting magnet is more than a Rolex. I have also read stories of hospital gurneys flying across the room into the MRI.

All that said I'm not really an expert on this as I'm more of an X-ray crystallographer, so you real experts please feel free to elaborate.
Great explanation.

Are you working in a university or private research institute?
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The instrument in the picture is a 300mhz NMR - Nuclear Magnetic Resonance. It is used for the identification and characterization of molecules both chemical and biological. The 300mhz is the size of the magnet which equates to about 7 Tesla or 70000 Gauss. Way beyond the limits of these watches and the magnets get bigger. Now that full magnetic field is only really around the sample which in this case is a spinning narrow tube. The yellow line on the floor is a 5 gauss line - that's the strength of the field there - as you get closer it increases. If the instrument weren't an "ultra-shield" the 5 gauss line would be further back - 20 years ago it would have been in the next room and there would have been a magnetic field of a few hundred gauss where I'm standing - messing up my mechanical watch. These moden instruments use a second magnet to cancel out the field of the first.

MRI uses a similar concept to characterize anatomy. In this case the magnet spins as the sample er... patient cannot. These are in the 6-15 tesla range which I'm thinking is what the patient would be exposed to. Again 60000 - 150000 gauss is way beyond the capability of the watch so not appropriate for a patient to wear and really dangerous. A radiologist working around an MRI would potentially benefit from the shielding of a Milgauss. Anyone working with MRIs please chime in. Hospitals also go to great lengths to shield the magnetic fields MRI emit as they can interfere with instruments and devices such as ventilators and pacemakers.

These magnets are powerful and expensive starting in the 6 figure range and going up to several million. I've heard stories of keys and tools getting stuck to these magnets, and once stuck it's there for a long while as the cost to quench and restore a cryo-superconducting magnet is more than a Rolex. I have also read stories of hospital gurneys flying across the room into the MRI.

All that said I'm not really an expert on this as I'm more of an X-ray crystallographer, so you real experts please feel free to elaborate.


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The instrument in the picture is a 300mhz NMR - Nuclear Magnetic Resonance. It is used for the identification and characterization of molecules both chemical and biological. The 300mhz is the size of the magnet which equates to about 7 Tesla or 70000 Gauss. Way beyond the limits of these watches and the magnets get bigger. Now that full magnetic field is only really around the sample which in this case is a spinning narrow tube. The yellow line on the floor is a 5 gauss line - that's the strength of the field there - as you get closer it increases. If the instrument weren't an "ultra-shield" the 5 gauss line would be further back - 20 years ago it would have been in the next room and there would have been a magnetic field of a few hundred gauss where I'm standing - messing up my mechanical watch. These moden instruments use a second magnet to cancel out the field of the first.

MRI uses a similar concept to characterize anatomy. In this case the magnet spins as the sample er... patient cannot. These are in the 6-15 tesla range which I'm thinking is what the patient would be exposed to. Again 60000 - 150000 gauss is way beyond the capability of the watch so not appropriate for a patient to wear and really dangerous. A radiologist working around an MRI would potentially benefit from the shielding of a Milgauss. Anyone working with MRIs please chime in. Hospitals also go to great lengths to shield the magnetic fields MRI emit as they can interfere with instruments and devices such as ventilators and pacemakers.

These magnets are powerful and expensive starting in the 6 figure range and going up to several million. I've heard stories of keys and tools getting stuck to these magnets, and once stuck it's there for a long while as the cost to quench and restore a cryo-superconducting magnet is more than a Rolex. I have also read stories of hospital gurneys flying across the room into the MRI.

All that said I'm not really an expert on this as I'm more of an X-ray crystallographer, so you real experts please feel free to elaborate.
I am a neurologist and we use a 3.0T magnetom, you can get small things off the magnet with considerable effort.

Large things like a metal ER gurney rolled in or more commonly the night janitor waxing the floors who got too close with his polisher will require the magnet to be quenched.

I take off my watch before I head to the MRI suite, even if I had a milgauss, since it (1,000 gauss) comes up pretty short of a 30,000 gaussian field.


PS, nice pic and great to see a one in the "field" Pun INTENDED. :p
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Old 26 June 2014, 08:53 AM   #25
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When I had an MRI I told them if I had a certain Rolex I would be alright but they didn't believe me.
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Old 26 June 2014, 09:43 AM   #26
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Old 26 June 2014, 09:53 AM   #27
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OMG... My GMT Master saw that picture and ran for cover.

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Old 26 June 2014, 10:06 AM   #28
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My son had an MRI yesterday and I was so stressed out I missed the opportunity to strap on my Milgauss for the occasion.

It's also family legend that my uncle worked on the development of MRI. I must find out more about that sometime. It's one of the reasons I was inspired to go for the gv.
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Old 26 June 2014, 11:55 AM   #29
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I am pretty sure an MRI is way over a thousand gauss and would indeed destroy your watch.
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Old 26 June 2014, 12:18 PM   #30
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Yes the MRI would totally destroy the milgauss. Even the aqua terra for that matter.
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