Help me pick! - 2 different Datejusts - (pics) DJ 1601

[rap12395]

Hey all - I've been looking for a vintage DJ for a bit now to wear on a leather strap. I decided I wanted a TT DJ with a classic gold/champagne dial and I like the 1601 over the more modern 16013 (i love the pie-pan dial on the 1601). I'm debating between the two DJs in the pic below.

They are basically the same price and are both TT DJs from the mid 60's, Ref 1601, good working order and all parts original (other than band). One is the linen dial (a 1507 cal) and the other is the other more traditional sunburst gold dial (1506 cal). Any thoughts/input appreciated!

BTW, anyone know why the linen dial has "T Swiss T" and the other has "T Swiss Made T"

[Old Expat Beast]

I might be wrong but the one on the right looks to have a service dial and hands and possibly an overpolished case (top left lug looks off). Left one would be my choice.

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I might be wrong but the one on the right looks to have a service dial and hands and possibly an overpolished case (top left lug looks off). Left one would be my choice.

I agree. I have been keeping an eye out for the right DJ to do that with. The linen dial is not my favorite and unless it is the camera angle that top left lug is quite narrow compared to the right one.

Unless they are cheap, pass. There are likely better examples.


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[rap12395]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I might be wrong but the one on the right looks to have a service dial and hands and possibly an overpolished case (top left lug looks off). Left one would be my choice.

Thanks for the input - can you tell me what you mean by a service dial?

Anyone else - thoughts generally on the linen dial look?

[joe100]

Hmmm the one on the right has too man issues but the one on the left, that dial printing looks a little fuzzy, even for a linen dial. Could be the angle.

[crowncollection]

I think the left. Right looks like it's had a bad polish

[rap12395]

Also - what is a "bad polish" generally speaking? An older watch that has been over-polished? Thanks guys.

[HERITAGE82]

Originally Posted by rap12395

Also - what is a "bad polish" generally speaking? An older watch that has been over-polished? Thanks guys.

A bad polish is when the lugs and crown gaurds are not evenly polished.

An overpolished case would be a bad polish, but you could have a bad polish on a very fat case which would means the the lugs and crown gaurds weren't even as stated above.

All this is why watches and vintage specifically need to be polished as little as possible.