Platinum Daytona vs Patek 5170G

[locutus49]

My final, FINAL grail is one of the two, and they both have things going for them:

Platona: beautiful dial that the wife loves, and this one we would get through a trusted seller. IMO the ultimate Daytona. But no exhibition back.

5170: I realize they are in high production, is being heavily advertised, and one needs to buy one at a very good price to maintain value. I have seen them circa 60K in WG. I'd want WG or Platinum (J, right?). A small downside is that it is manual with 72 hr reserve, but I don't mind winding. Exhibition back. I never owned a Patek before.

I have grown to love my WG meteorite dial daytona, and may or may not trade it in. Same with Hulk. Depends on various financials.

Overall, I think with the Platona bracelet you get a lot of platinum for your money. OTOH, with 5170 you get to admire the movement every day.

Welcome any thoughts. I do enjoy using the chronograph buttons to time everything from my cat playing to how late my doctor is running (sorry, Tom )

If I get it, it will be after we move to San Diego County in a few months. So I have time to study both watches. It will be my forever watch.

[travisb]

That's a very tough decision. I would almost always choose Patek but for me, the Platona wins out. Sportier, more robust, prefer bracelet over strap, automatic and can be dressed down a lot more so than a 5170.

[thewatchguy93]

For me, Platona.. I'm sure many will disagree..



Dino

[capote]

I think the 5170 is a lot nicer. As far as I know there is no 5170 in platinum, that would be a "P".

[fmc000]

If it must be the "final" watch, the one to wear every day, I would choose Daytona without a doubt. It it will be one of the many I guess it depends on the others but as you wrote that you never had a Patek before....

[samsam]

Very tough decision! The 5170 is one of my fav chronos, but the Platona is just beautiful.
Hmmmm... I think I'd go with the Platona. Aesthetically it appeals more to me.

[unknown]

I know many will not agree but imo at this price point your ONLY option is a Patek

I love Rolex but for me the only good ones are the steel models and most of all the stainless steel sportswatches

But when looking a a gold and platinum piece there are imo much better options

After all you still buy a not so fancy simple rolex movement in an expensive case or very expensive when looking a platinum

I really like the platinum Daytona but imo 60k EURO is way to much for such a simple watch and when comparing to a Patek, a terrible finished movement.

I believe, when somebody is looking for a EURO 60K watch you should get more than just an expensive material and in that case a Patek 5170 is so much more interesting than a platinum daytona

If you can afford 10 of these watches, a platinum daytona might be an option …. but only if you have already some other real high-end watches.


For me it's like buying a 250K Bentley with a Ford 1600cc, 110hp engine
It looks super but when looking at the hart of the car ( the engine) or the hart of the watch ( movement) that little ford engine is not made for such a car …. well the 4130 movement is imo not made for a euro 60K watch

[samsam]

Originally Posted by unknown

I know many will not agree but imo at this price point your ONLY option is a Patek

I love Rolex but for me the only good ones are the steel models and most of all the stainless steel sportswatches

But when looking a a gold and platinum piece there are imo much better options

After all you still buy a not so fancy simple rolex movement in an expensive case or very expensive when looking a platinum

I really like the platinum Daytona but imo 60k EURO is way to much for such a simple watch and when comparing to a Patek, a terrible finished movement.

I believe, when somebody is looking for a EURO 60K watch you should get more than just an expensive material and in that case a Patek 5170 is so much more interesting than a platinum daytona

If you can afford 10 of these watches, a platinum daytona might be an option …. but only if you have already some other real high-end watches.


For me it's like buying a 250K Bentley with a Ford 1600cc, 110hp engine
It looks super but when looking at the hart of the car ( the engine) or the hart of the watch ( movement) that little ford engine is not made for such a car …. well the 4130 movement is imo not made for a euro 60K watch

This is a very interesting way to think about it and I tend to agree. For $75k you should get a real "high-end" watch. Go Patek. Maybe look at those annual calendar chronos as well, they are my favorites. (not sure about prices though)

[BlakeC]

Another vote for the Platona. I love Patek, but the platinum edges it out for me.

[locutus49]

Thanks for all the great responses and food for thought. I would post photos but don't know how to "borrow" photos.

Originally Posted by locutus49

My final, FINAL grail is one of the two, and they both have things going for them:

Platona: beautiful dial that the wife loves, and this one we would get through a trusted seller. IMO the ultimate Daytona. But no exhibition back.

5170: I realize they are in high production, is being heavily advertised, and one needs to buy one at a very good price to maintain value. I have seen them circa 60K in WG. I'd want WG or Platinum (J, right?). A small downside is that it is manual with 72 hr reserve, but I don't mind winding. Exhibition back. I never owned a Patek before.

I have grown to love my WG meteorite dial daytona, and may or may not trade it in. Same with Hulk. Depends on various financials.

Overall, I think with the Platona bracelet you get a lot of platinum for your money. OTOH, with 5170 you get to admire the movement every day.

Welcome any thoughts. I do enjoy using the chronograph buttons to time everything from my cat playing to how late my doctor is running (sorry, Tom )

If I get it, it will be after we move to San Diego County in a few months. So I have time to study both watches. It will be my forever watch.

Originally Posted by capote

I think the 5170 is a lot nicer. As far as I know there is no 5170 in platinum, that would be a "P".

Originally Posted by fmc000

If it must be the "final" watch, the one to wear every day, I would choose Daytona without a doubt. It it will be one of the many I guess it depends on the others but as you wrote that you never had a Patek before....

Originally Posted by SamSam

Very tough decision! The 5170 is one of my fav chronos, but the Platona is just beautiful.
Hmmmm... I think I'd go with the Platona. Aesthetically it appeals more to me.

Originally Posted by unknown

I know many will not agree but imo at this price point your ONLY option is a Patek

I love Rolex but for me the only good ones are the steel models and most of all the stainless steel sportswatches

But when looking a a gold and platinum piece there are imo much better options

After all you still buy a not so fancy simple rolex movement in an expensive case or very expensive when looking a platinum

I really like the platinum Daytona but imo 60k EURO is way to much for such a simple watch and when comparing to a Patek, a terrible finished movement.

I believe, when somebody is looking for a EURO 60K watch you should get more than just an expensive material and in that case a Patek 5170 is so much more interesting than a platinum daytona

If you can afford 10 of these watches, a platinum daytona might be an option …. but only if you have already some other real high-end watches.


For me it's like buying a 250K Bentley with a Ford 1600cc, 110hp engine
It looks super but when looking at the hart of the car ( the engine) or the hart of the watch ( movement) that little ford engine is not made for such a car …. well the 4130 movement is imo not made for a euro 60K watch

Originally Posted by travisb

That's a very tough decision. I would almost always choose Patek but for me, the Platona wins out. Sportier, more robust, prefer bracelet over strap, automatic and can be dressed down a lot more so than a 5170.

Originally Posted by Dingoo93

For me, Platona.. I'm sure many will disagree..



Dino

Originally Posted by BlakeC

Another vote for the Platona. I love Patek, but the platinum edges it out for me.

[perryj]

I think you should think about how you want to wear/use the watch, it is a everyday piece? Is it a special occasion piece? Since they are two very different animals that should help.

[Racerdj]

How can you make a bad decision on these two? I have only seen the Platinum Daytona and really like it.

[Daytona4130]

I'd take the Daytona. I can feel every dollars worth in it. It's unlike any other watch I've ever handled .

[kentheevil]

Platona for me unless it's a 5980 then It'd be a REALLY tough decision bracelet wins everytime but I'd say try comparing it with other patek too since you already have a daytona i dont own a patek but i think everyone who loves watch should own one eventually which mean if you didn't this might not be your last watch

[datejusting]

A hand full of platinum and a mediocre chronograph movement without date, or a masterpiece of a PP watch; a hard decision to make?

[Le Chef]

The movement of the 5170 is so far superior that the two watches aren't really competitors. Patek by a couple of country miles. The pt Daytona still only has the same movement you find in the cheapest ss version.

[AK797]

Platona for me. I do like the Breguet numbers of the 5170 but the watch always reminds me of a library, just too old-fashioned in styling for me. The 5070P would be the only PP chrono I would take over the Platona.

[Plastique999]

The fit, finish and the movement of the Patek is hands down superior to the Platona. However, I personally wouldn't select the 5170 if I had $70k - love a calendar model like the 5940 or 5135.
That being said, I absolutely love the Platona and its limited production. I love unique watches and have my eye on the Platona.


Sent from my 16M

[jjnd08]

Platona for me. Bracelet, dial, and my love for Daytonas seal the deal. Plus I love versatility.

While the exposed case back is cool, the watch is on your wrist. You won't be able to see it anyways.

I'd get the Platona, and then flip your WG one for a similar complication in either Glashutte or ALS brands. If you want a Patek, get a 5711.

[raclaims]

For me it's platona hands down.

I love mine and wear it all the time doing everything!

The patek just doesn't wow me in person or on the wrist personally. I really really wanted to buy it...but on the wrist it just left me "blah". Wheras every time I wear the platona is makes me very happy! Wearing it now!

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by jjnd08

Platona for me. Bracelet, dial, and my love for Daytonas seal the deal. Plus I love versatility.

While the exposed case back is cool, the watch is on your wrist. You won't be able to see it anyways.

I'd get the Platona, and then flip your WG one for a similar complication in either Glashutte or ALS brands. If you want a Patek, get a 5711.

Originally Posted by raclaims

For me it's platona hands down.

I love mine and wear it all the time doing everything!

The patek just doesn't wow me in person or on the wrist personally. I really really wanted to buy it...but on the wrist it just left me "blah". Wheras every time I wear the platona is makes me very happy! Wearing it now!

These comments pretty much sum it up for me! Plus all that and no bracelet kills it for me

At this price point I think those actually BUYING One of these watches will know what is personally best for them

Both great, Daytona for me

[locutus49]

Looks like the vote is split 50/50. My wife gets the final vote.

My wife actually likes the Platona first, then my WG meteorite, then the PP. The PP does nothing for her other than the name and the cool exhibition back. She likes the meteorite dial best for pure beauty, but overall likes the look of the Platona. And it is one honking chunk of platinum.

Oh well, I have time to kill before deciding. I'd like to own a Patek before I die, just to see what the big deal is.

The nautilus did nothing for me, nor did the aquanaut, and the wife thought they looked like 70's watches (no offense meant to Patek lovers or to Mr. Genta). And I do love the function of chrono's and the look of the 5170 even if she thinks it looks plain.

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

These comments pretty much sum it up for me! Plus all that and no bracelet kills it for me

At this price point I think those actually BUYING One of these watches will know what is personally best for them

Both great, Daytona for me

[AK797]

Originally Posted by locutus49

Looks like the vote is split 50/50. My wife gets the final vote.

My wife actually likes the Platona first, then my WG meteorite, then the PP. The PP does nothing for her other than the name and the cool exhibition back. She likes the meteorite dial best for pure beauty, but overall likes the look of the Platona. And it is one honking chunk of platinum.

See? The ladies don't like old librarians...

[autohorology]

My vote is for Patek. Substance over style. More artistry. The Platona is still the same movement inside a 12k watch with 10k or so of platinum on it for 75k MSRP.

I understand the exclusivity, but I don't worry about a Patek's resale value 5-10 years from now. But a watch with a metal that is basically the same price as gold but for $40,000 more than the gold models' MSRP is tough to swallow, and may be tougher to sell later on in the secondary market when the hype wears off.

But if it's your grail watch and you don't plan to sell it, I guess it doesn't matter. My vote is still for Patek though.

[tigerpac]

This.

Originally Posted by autohorology

My vote is for Patek. Substance over style. More artistry. The Platona is still the same movement inside a 12k watch with 10k or so of platinum on it for 75k MSRP.

I understand the exclusivity, but I don't worry about a Patek's resale value 5-10 years from now. But a watch with a metal that is basically the same price as gold but for $40,000 more than the gold models' MSRP is tough to swallow, and may be tougher to sell later on in the secondary market when the hype wears off.

But if it's your grail watch and you don't plan to sell it, I guess it doesn't matter. My vote is still for Patek though.

[www777]

Daytona for me. You can wear it for any occasion vs the patek I don't think I would be roughing up playing sports etc...

[watchwatcher]

I have no idea which of these pieces would be the better buy or has the better movement, so I'll state that up front. For pure aesthetics alone, I would go with the Platona.

[Touring]

No brainer - 5170.

[Presa canary]

Originally Posted by Touring

No brainer - 5170.

This

[Suicide King]

I love the clean look of Patek,but I would choose Daytona .
For me it has more details(front side,not back :D ) ,more wrist presence,and hey, its daytona ,but in platinum!
Whatever you choose,those two are really cool pieces.