Why don't Rolex crowns appear upright?

[ColRam425]

Since Rolex is a perfectionist down to the last detail, why don't they ensure that every model of Rolex has the crown on the crown line straight up? I know people have models like that and are considered "very lucky" but honestly it surprises me that a company that prides itself on attention to detail can't seem to make the crown appear upright when the crown is screwed down.

[beer]

Maybe its not incapability but rather they don't think its something that shows perfection

Same as how AP line up the screws on their watch faces but Hublot do not - I'm sure they are capable of it they just don't see it as necessary

[Scholar]

Originally Posted by beer

Maybe its not incapability but rather they don't think its something that shows perfection

Same as how AP line up the screws on their watch faces but Hublot do not - I'm sure they are capable of it they just don't see it as necessary

Not sure Hublot is in the same league of quality as Rolex let alone AP, much as they try with their celebrities and AP knockoffs!

[Tseg]

Only with the SkyDweller, I believe.

[Vanmarsenille]

Originally Posted by Tseg

Only with the SkyDweller, I believe.

My DDII lines up every time, but my GMTII and DJII do not...

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by ColRam425

Since Rolex is a perfectionist down to the last detail, why don't they ensure that every model of Rolex has the crown on the crown line straight up? I know people have models like that and are considered "very lucky" but honestly it surprises me that a company that prides itself on attention to detail can't seem to make the crown appear upright when the crown is screwed down.

Who told you that?

[ColRam425]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Who told you that?

Perhaps everybody on here knows better haha but I was told before that if a Rolex has the smallest imperfection after completion then it gets tossed or corrected.

[trackntrail]

Originally Posted by ColRam425

Perhaps everybody on here knows better haha but I was told before that if a Rolex has the smallest imperfection after completion then it gets tossed or corrected.

Nope

Have you not seen any of the threads on the cyclops problem from the last couple years??

[Jemspeed]

Seems like this would be time consuming and expensive. With a crown, you have four threaded surfaces that would have to engage at exactly the same place. You have threads in the case two sets of diferently turned threads on the tube and threads in the crown you would have to have them all start at the same place with no variation in where the threads are tightened to torque. I just don't think that is practical. The screw slots on a royal oak are aesthetic and nonfunctional. They are not tightened by those screw slots. Flip a royal oak over and the screw heads that are tightenedon back do not line up.

[cht]

Originally Posted by ColRam425

Perhaps everybody on here knows better haha but I was told before that if a Rolex has the smallest imperfection after completion then it gets tossed or corrected.

WHo told you this???
Did they also tell you they have ocean front property for sale in Arizona?

And more importantly, how can you have over 200 posts and be here over a year and believe this???



Rolex makes a 1 million watches a year, with machines, machines that are pretty good, which makes QC pretty minimal, which they like since its most time consuming and expensive.


And the only thing they have perfected down to the last detail is their marketing.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by cht

Rolex makes a 1 million watches a year, with machines, machines that are pretty good, which makes QC pretty minimal, which they like since its most time consuming and expensive.


And the only thing they have perfected down to the last detail is their marketing.

This is extraordinarily inaccurate. In fact, it is completely false. You should be ashamed.

[tom2517]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

This is extraordinarily inaccurate. In fact, it is completely false. You should be ashamed.

Lol yeah, and some please explain to me, forget Rolex, does anybody in the industry line up their crown? Looks like nobody.

[blue lion]

Originally Posted by ColRam425

Perhaps everybody on here knows better haha but I was told before that if a Rolex has the smallest imperfection after completion then it gets tossed or corrected.

A crown not lining up is not an imperfection for me.

[Syed117]

Originally Posted by ColRam425

Since Rolex is a perfectionist down to the last detail

Stop yourself right there.

Spend more time on this forum and you will quickly understand how untrue that is.

Nothing is ever perfect and problems exist with every product ever made. A Rolex is no different. Even Pateks which cost 10x as much as a Rolex can leave the factory with issues.

The crown thing has been discussed many times. I would honestly like it if they engineered it to line up correctly, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. Water resistance is what really matters and they have a great track record when it comes to that.

[T. Ferguson]

First of all, it doesn't because it's not necessarily supposed to. Over time as the gaskets compress it will probably change orientation anyway, as it would when it came back from service. Why not just eliminate the logo from the crown? In any event it would still require you to torque it closed with the exact same force every time.

Secondly, what is upright? Many would argue the correct orientation would be towards the upper lug and what you're calling straight up would be sideways.

Certainly they can do it because they do it on the Sky Dweller. This feature may trickle down to other models, but probably incorporated into model changes with new reference numbers AND a new price tag.

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

First of all, it doesn't because it's not necessarily supposed to. Over time as the gaskets compress it will probably change orientation anyway, as it would when it came back from service. Why not just eliminate the logo from the crown? In any event it would still require you to torque it closed with the exact same force every time.

Secondly, what is upright? Many would argue the correct orientation would be towards the upper lug and what you're calling straight up would be sideways.

Certainly they can do it because they do it on the Sky Dweller. This feature may trickle down to other models, but probably incorporated into model changes with new reference numbers AND a new price tag.

This, even if it starts straight it will change over time as parts compress


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[Andad]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

This, even if it starts straight it will change over time as parts compress


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Stop reading my posts David.....

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Stop reading my posts David.....

Well if your right your right mate lol cheers


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[joejeweler]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

First of all, it doesn't because it's not necessarily supposed to. Over time as the gaskets compress it will probably change orientation anyway, as it would when it came back from service. Why not just eliminate the logo from the crown? In any event it would still require you to torque it closed with the exact same force every time.

Secondly, what is upright? Many would argue the correct orientation would be towards the upper lug and what you're calling straight up would be sideways.

Certainly they can do it because they do it on the Sky Dweller. This feature may trickle down to other models, but probably incorporated into model changes with new reference numbers AND a new price tag.

Then my 114060 Sub No Date is "inverse perfect", wherein the top of the Crown (ON the Crown:-) is perfectly parallel to the case center and pointing toward the 6:00 position Lugs,.....the tail of the Crown logo of course addressing the 12:00 Lugs.

.....as perfect as I care it to be.

I'll call mine the "Sleeping Crown" Position!

In the end this makes no real difference, and can be WAY over thought and even become bit anal, perhaps.

For instance , ......should Rolex sold "Down Under" (Australia & New Zealand) have their Crown's heads set to be facing the case back?.......OR maybe those sold in Asian Countries set up,.....ummmm,.....well.......on a slight "Slant"?

It's ALL good......

[SeaAndSky]

Originally Posted by Syed117

Stop yourself right there.

The crown thing has been discussed many times. I would honestly like it if they engineered it to line up correctly

The thing I don't get is why a bunch of WISes think that the crown up towards the face is the "correct" way for it to be at rest when screwed down. Personally, I think it makes more aesthetic sense for the crown to be aligned so it points toward the top of the dial. The whole idea of a "perfect" crown alignment is just weird to me. It's truly an idea that would have never moved along the pathways in my skull if not for this forum. The power of advertising and law of primacy are responsible I suppose. These recurring threads would be far more interesting if we discussed that instead of the latest member's ocd with respect to his/her watch.

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by SeaAndSky

The thing I don't get is why a bunch of WISes think that the crown up towards the face is the "correct" way for it to be at rest when screwed down...

Of those that do seem to have that impression I think the reason is pretty clear - because that's the way it always oriented in Rolex advertising and photos on their website.

[joe100]

Look at your new $8500 Rolex under a loupe and you'll probably cry

[trackntrail]

Originally Posted by joe100

Look at your new $8500 Rolex under a loupe and you'll probably cry

so true. It can't be unseen.

[Mak2013]

Originally Posted by joe100

Look at your new $8500 Rolex under a loupe and you'll probably cry

Lol


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[beshannon]

Mine lines up just fine



Just stop turning when is straight

[liuk3]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Mine lines up just fine



Just stop turning when is straight

I was going to say just keep cranking on it until is straight.

[dabbotjordan]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Mine lines up just fine



Just stop turning when is straight

Bet you got a diet coke with yours as well!

[watchwatcher]

Why would it matter?

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Why would it matter?

It doesn't.

I wonder if anyone has had someone look at his wrist and exclaim, "Your crown is upside down!"?

Creative punctuation there.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by ColRam425

Since Rolex is a perfectionist down to the last detail, why don't they ensure that every model of Rolex has the crown on the crown line straight up? I know people have models like that and are considered "very lucky" but honestly it surprises me that a company that prides itself on attention to detail can't seem to make the crown appear upright when the crown is screwed down.

If it really bothers you just screw the crown in and then back it of until the crown points to where you want it.

It will make zero difference to water resistance.

The finger tight final crown seal on a triplock would have no chance of holding back 440psi at 300 metres. That job is for the two internal stem seals.