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sirish19 · 15 August 2015, 11:07 AM

Hi All,

I posted a similar question on the PP forum and most recommend the Nautilus for my collection but thought I would throw it out here on the AP forum as well to get a different perspective.

My current collection is below. I am considering flipping the PAM and adding another watch to the collection. After getting my Patrimony and PP Annual Calendar, the PAM is just too big and bulky. I have decided to add another SS watch on a bracelet to give me another alternative to the GMT II during the hot summer months and something that can go casual or with a suit. I also think a blue dial would fit well with my collection so am considering either the Nautilus or Royal Oak.

Given my current collection, which do you guys think would be a better fit, Nautilus or RO? Factors I am considering are also availability, price, resale value, service cost, etc.

For those recommending the RO, can you tell me why you would recommend one over the other? Thanks for your input.

zama · 15 August 2015, 11:08 AM

15202 would be a nice change to your current set

perpetualman88 · 15 August 2015, 11:09 AM

5712 :)

theflywrist · 15 August 2015, 11:15 AM

I picked this.
Just love it so much. The simplicity and versatility are incredible.

Beautiful collection man.
Is that a 5146? - Would love to see some more of it :)

sirish19 · 15 August 2015, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by crazypilot

I picked this.
Just love it so much. The simplicity and versatility are incredible.

Beautiful collection man.
Is that a 5146? - Would love to see some more of it :)

Yep, that is a 5146g indeed, and I love it.

theflywrist · 15 August 2015, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sirish19

Yep, that is a 5146g indeed, and I love it.

Wow I love this one!
Thanks for the pics. Do you dress down with it as well? - Shorts and a t shirt?
It definitely works IMO.
Wear all in good health.

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Originally Posted by yjfang

I current have the 15202 and it's a keeper for me. While its slim in profile, the sharper angles of the lugs and bezel allows the watch to have a good presence on my 7.5" wrist.

I've had 5712 before but felt way too small and thin for my taste (5711 would have the same issue.) I also had the 15400 and felt it was too big for a dress watch. 15300 probably would have been pretty decent but then I was sold on the historical connection of the 15202 with the original RO.

Agreed the 15202 has more presence, especiallly for bigger wrists.
I have 6.25" wrists and I find that the 5711 is a perfect fit.
The 15202 was too large for my taste.
I guess with these two it really goes down to which wears better on your wrist, as there is no going wrong.

sirish19 · 15 August 2015, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazypilot

Wow I love this one!
Thanks for the pics. Do you dress down with it as well? - Shorts and a t shirt?
It definitely works IMO.
Wear all in good health.

I haven't worn the 5146 with a t-shirt but have worn it with shorts and an oxford or long-sleeved linen shirt (with sleeves rolled up). I use the t-shirt as an opportunity to give the GMT II some wrist time.

Agreed the 15202 has more presence, especiallly for bigger wrists.
I have 6.25" wrists and I find that the 5711 is a perfect fit.
The 15202 was too large for my taste.
I guess with these two it really goes down to which wears better on your wrist, as there is no going wrong.

I have tried the 5712 on and felt it wore really well on my wrist, have yet to try on AP though so definitely need to see how it feels. I have about 6.70" wrist so on the small side, I believe. I would expect the 15400 might be a little large.

The other thing that attracts me to the AP is that that would give me the holy trinity along with the PP Annual Calendar and the VC Patrimony...

yjfang · 15 August 2015, 11:35 AM

I current have the 15202 and it's a keeper for me. While its slim in profile, the sharper angles of the lugs and bezel allows the watch to have a good presence on my 7.5" wrist.

I've had 5712 before but it felt too small and thin for my taste (5711 would have the same issue.) I also had the 15400 and felt it was too big for a dress watch. 15300 probably would have been pretty decent but then I was sold on the historical connection of the 15202 with the original RO.

SpunkyQ8 · 15 August 2015, 11:45 AM

15202 judging by ur collection. U r missing that hexagonal design!

lapince · 15 August 2015, 11:50 AM

5712

texex91 · 15 August 2015, 12:11 PM

5711 or 15202.

GB-man · 15 August 2015, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

5711 or 15202.

Can't lose.

I like the 15202 for the unrivaled finishing on the case and bracelet. I like the 5711 for its WR...crown guards etc

Both are nearly without fault

Hairdude1 · 15 August 2015, 12:53 PM

Go 15202

el1125 · 15 August 2015, 02:09 PM

15202 as I see you don't own any APs nor any watches with blue dials. Second I'd recommend 5711 blue.

gummy · 15 August 2015, 11:15 PM

As much as I would love to say get the 5711...You already have that sweet 5146 in the stable...

So in an effort to change it up a bit brand wise - I would go 15202 then add 5711 later.

If you want something a little bigger do the 15400 take the savings (vs 15202) and you're that much closer to the PP 5711

subtona · 15 August 2015, 11:29 PM

15202 or 5711 (had the 202 and still have the 5711)

Prefer the 5711 because of WR and quickset date.

As far as which RO, putting them each on the wrist, instantly made my choice simple.

manilenyo · 15 August 2015, 11:40 PM

15202 or 15300, if your collection parameter is one watch per brand. Good luck!

jjnd08 · 15 August 2015, 11:59 PM

If just picking one of the ones you listed, the 15400 is my favorite.

But, you said you want a blue dial and are looking for something slimmer, so the 15202 for me. It gives you your blue dial, and gives you more brand diversity.

I prefer the ROs over the Nautilus line.

Beautiful collection you have!

DECR · 16 August 2015, 12:24 AM

Jumbo pic to complement the thread.

sirish19 · 16 August 2015, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DECR

Jumbo pic to complement the thread.

Beautiful watch. It was all of the wonderful pics in the 15202 appreciation thread that made me reconsider what I thought was an obvious choice with the 5711.

I think my hunt for the 15202 is about to begin...

DECR · 16 August 2015, 12:21 AM

RO Jumbo for me. Love it. Perfect fit for my 6.75 wrist. Case design, bracelet, movement, dial, screws, polished angles, history....What is not to love.

aleeboy · 16 August 2015, 02:16 AM

5712 would be a solid addition to your collection

rebel_1 · 16 August 2015, 02:30 AM

Jumbo without question.

TheMethod · 16 August 2015, 04:07 AM

15202 and then a 5711 after.

AK797 · 16 August 2015, 04:47 AM

I would sell 5146 and buy 5712 and 15202.

yjfang · 16 August 2015, 04:55 AM

Hands down this one.

Manofsteelpt · 17 August 2015, 05:00 AM

15202 or 5712

blcblc · 18 August 2015, 11:13 PM

5711

RUpanerai · 18 August 2015, 11:30 PM

5711, 15202, 15300 and 5712 in that order...

Jeeze in what list would a 5712 ever fall in last place!

sirish19 · 19 August 2015, 01:01 AM

Well, I had a chance to try on both the 15400 and 15300 and they both actually felt wore pretty well. Not sure which size I prefer. The RO is quite a bit heavier than the Nautilus though, not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. I found the blue in the 15400 and not sure I like the color as well as the 15202 although I actually haven't seen the Jumbo in the flesh yet.

I'd really like to try the 5711 and 15202 at the same time for an accurate comparison but as hard to find as those two pieces are, I think I'd have better luck hitting a hole in one...

15 August 2015, 11:07 AM	#1
sirish19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Stephen Location: Tokyo Watch: PP-VC-AP Posts: 1,003	Nautilus 5711, 5712 or AP 15202 ST, 15400ST, or 15300 ST Hi All, I posted a similar question on the PP forum and most recommend the Nautilus for my collection but thought I would throw it out here on the AP forum as well to get a different perspective. My current collection is below. I am considering flipping the PAM and adding another watch to the collection. After getting my Patrimony and PP Annual Calendar, the PAM is just too big and bulky. I have decided to add another SS watch on a bracelet to give me another alternative to the GMT II during the hot summer months and something that can go casual or with a suit. I also think a blue dial would fit well with my collection so am considering either the Nautilus or Royal Oak. Given my current collection, which do you guys think would be a better fit, Nautilus or RO? Factors I am considering are also availability, price, resale value, service cost, etc. For those recommending the RO, can you tell me why you would recommend one over the other? Thanks for your input. Attached Images __________________

15 August 2015, 11:08 AM	#2
zama "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Craig Location: Sydney Watch: 4 Broken glass Posts: 5,809	15202 would be a nice change to your current set __________________ Day Date 118206, Daytona 116509 & 116505, AP 25859ST Gone but not forgotten and genuinely missed..... Root Beer GMT, Sub, TT Daytona, YG DD Bark, Datejust(2 his & hers), AP RO, PP Aquanaut, Lange 1, Heuer Monza, Piaget Altiplano, GP Chrono, Seamaster, Tudor Sub, Tudor Chrono, Tudor Black Bay Bronze

15 August 2015, 11:15 AM	#4
theflywrist "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 1,993	I picked this. Just love it so much. The simplicity and versatility are incredible. Beautiful collection man. Is that a 5146? - Would love to see some more of it :) Attached Images

15 August 2015, 12:53 PM	#13
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Go 15202 __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

15 August 2015, 11:29 PM	#16
subtona 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,743	15202 or 5711 (had the 202 and still have the 5711) Prefer the 5711 because of WR and quickset date. As far as which RO, putting them each on the wrist, instantly made my choice simple. __________________

15 August 2015, 11:09 AM	#3
perpetualman88 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,256	5712 :)

15 August 2015, 11:35 AM	#8
yjfang "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: JF Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 Posts: 1,426	I current have the 15202 and it's a keeper for me. While its slim in profile, the sharper angles of the lugs and bezel allows the watch to have a good presence on my 7.5" wrist. I've had 5712 before but it felt too small and thin for my taste (5711 would have the same issue.) I also had the 15400 and felt it was too big for a dress watch. 15300 probably would have been pretty decent but then I was sold on the historical connection of the 15202 with the original RO.

15 August 2015, 11:45 AM	#9
SpunkyQ8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Aj Location: Kuwait Watch: RM,AP,PP,RLX,PAM Posts: 1,056	15202 judging by ur collection. U r missing that hexagonal design!

15 August 2015, 11:50 AM	#10
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	5712

15 August 2015, 12:11 PM	#11
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	5711 or 15202.

15 August 2015, 02:09 PM	#14
el1125 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA Posts: 3,578	15202 as I see you don't own any APs nor any watches with blue dials. Second I'd recommend 5711 blue.

15 August 2015, 11:15 PM	#15
gummy 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,354	As much as I would love to say get the 5711...You already have that sweet 5146 in the stable... So in an effort to change it up a bit brand wise - I would go 15202 then add 5711 later. If you want something a little bigger do the 15400 take the savings (vs 15202) and you're that much closer to the PP 5711

15 August 2015, 11:40 PM	#17
manilenyo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: manila Posts: 2,541	15202 or 15300, if your collection parameter is one watch per brand. Good luck!

15 August 2015, 11:59 PM	#18
jjnd08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 8,615	If just picking one of the ones you listed, the 15400 is my favorite. But, you said you want a blue dial and are looking for something slimmer, so the 15202 for me. It gives you your blue dial, and gives you more brand diversity. I prefer the ROs over the Nautilus line. Beautiful collection you have! __________________ ---------------------- Instagram: watchesandchickensandwiches

16 August 2015, 12:24 AM	#19
DECR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Diego Location: Mexico Watch: PP,AL&S,AP,Rolex Posts: 825	Jumbo pic to complement the thread. Attached Images

16 August 2015, 12:21 AM	#21
DECR "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Diego Location: Mexico Watch: PP,AL&S,AP,Rolex Posts: 825	RO Jumbo for me. Love it. Perfect fit for my 6.75 wrist. Case design, bracelet, movement, dial, screws, polished angles, history....What is not to love.

16 August 2015, 02:16 AM	#22
aleeboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Russel Location: N/A Watch: N/A Posts: 755	5712 would be a solid addition to your collection

16 August 2015, 02:30 AM	#23
rebel_1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 2,131	Jumbo without question.

16 August 2015, 04:07 AM	#24
TheMethod "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Rolex, AP, GS, JLC Posts: 790	15202 and then a 5711 after.

16 August 2015, 04:47 AM	#25
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I would sell 5146 and buy 5712 and 15202.

16 August 2015, 04:55 AM	#26
yjfang "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: JF Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 Posts: 1,426	Hands down this one.

17 August 2015, 05:00 AM	#27
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	15202 or 5712

18 August 2015, 11:13 PM	#28
blcblc "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,306	5711

18 August 2015, 11:30 PM	#29
RUpanerai "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: NJ Watch: Pam Patek Rolex AP Posts: 794	5711, 15202, 15300 and 5712 in that order... Jeeze in what list would a 5712 ever fall in last place!

19 August 2015, 01:01 AM	#30
sirish19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Stephen Location: Tokyo Watch: PP-VC-AP Posts: 1,003	Well, I had a chance to try on both the 15400 and 15300 and they both actually felt wore pretty well. Not sure which size I prefer. The RO is quite a bit heavier than the Nautilus though, not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. I found the blue in the 15400 and not sure I like the color as well as the 15202 although I actually haven't seen the Jumbo in the flesh yet. I'd really like to try the 5711 and 15202 at the same time for an accurate comparison but as hard to find as those two pieces are, I think I'd have better luck hitting a hole in one... __________________

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