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dogpawss · 12 October 2015, 09:21 AM

Since July first this year, when you purchase a new Rolex from ADs in Japan, along with the nice green box, green tag and manual you will also receive this message from Rolex Japan telling that if Rolex finds out you are a flipper or "tenbai" in Japanese term, your name will be blacklisted and Rolex Japan will not sell watches to that individual.

Is this happening in other countries as well? The ADs also size your new Rolex as they take off the protection films to avoid being sold to grey dealers.

tkerrmd · 12 October 2015, 09:28 AM

If you buy a watch legit from an AD, then later decide to get something different and sell it or whatever why would they care? You bought it why cant you do what ya want with it?

Mine still let me take the plastic off if and when I want?

Racerdj · 12 October 2015, 08:03 PM

Same thoughts and situation here.

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

If you buy a watch legit from an AD, then later decide to get something different and sell it or whatever why would they care? You bought it why cant you do what ya want with it?

Mine still let me take the plastic off if and when I want?

Lordofrolex · 12 October 2015, 09:32 AM

They mean if you keep all the original packaging and plastic and try to sell it as new. I'm guessing. Like to watch brokers and stuff.

tkerrmd · 12 October 2015, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

They mean if you keep all the original packaging and plastic and try to sell it as new. I'm guessing. Like to watch brokers and stuff.

But if you bought it at an AD it is your watch to do want you wish? You paid retail do they think you will flip it and make money on it?
Maybe like mark up a new Daytona and sell on eBay?

dogpawss · 12 October 2015, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

But if you bought it at an AD it is your watch to do want you wish? You paid retail do they think you will flip it and make money on it?

Maybe like mark up a new Daytona and sell on eBay?

Tom,

You can easily sell SS Daytonas, GMT BLNR, Submariner LV with a bit of premium to grey dealers or porn shops in Japan and I was told by my AD there are group of people (not sure if they are local) doing this for business and this is the reason behind.

I always buy Rolex from my AD so would like to know if people here have similar experience in other countries too.

Sal_UKSheffield · 12 October 2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dogpawss

Tom,

You can easily sell SS Daytonas, GMT BLNR, Submariner LV with a bit of premium to grey dealers or porn shops in Japan and I was told by my AD there are group of people (not sure if they are local) doing this for business and this is the reason behind.

I always buy Rolex from my AD so would like to know if people here have similar experience in other countries too.

Pawn lol

TK-710 · 12 October 2015, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sal_UKSheffield

Pawn lol

I was wondering if anyone else caught that!

Old Expat Beast · 12 October 2015, 09:32 AM

Interesting. What else does it say on that note?

sutats · 12 October 2015, 09:40 AM

Interesting, and it is quite a radical measure and I suspect currency exchange rates has a part to play much like the global price adjustments by Patek in the first half of the year.

Watchgeek5000 · 12 October 2015, 09:42 AM

If that's true let's all pledge our undying loyalty to another brand.

kunlun · 12 October 2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Watchgeek5000

If that's true let's all pledge our undying loyalty to another brand.

I don't know if TheHublotForum really has the same ring to it.

Watchgeek5000 · 12 October 2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kunlun

I don't know if TheHublotForum really has the same ring to it.

"FranckMullerforum" has a nice ring! Lol

sctp39 · 12 October 2015, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kunlun

I don't know if TheHublotForum really has the same ring to it.

Geez, thanks for reminding me that I own a Hublot... Lol

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jmrxtr · 11 December 2017, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kunlun

I don't know if TheHublotForum really has the same ring to it.

karmatp · 11 December 2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Watchgeek5000

If that's true let's all pledge our undying loyalty to another brand.

THIS IS ROLEX. I have said for years how much i dislike Rolex as a company. I don't see me every buying another new Rolex, ever. They have bossed my local around for years, making them jump through silly hopes or they threatened to pull the line from them.

I am getting a new IWC for Xmas, so glad my money is not supporting a company that bosses AD's and individuals around like that.

Majin Buu · 12 October 2015, 09:59 AM

Hi !

Can you or anyone, please, fully translate what is written on the cards?

Cheers !

MB

79280_116520 · 11 December 2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Majin Buu

Hi !

Can you or anyone, please, fully translate what is written on the cards?

Cheers !

MB

Use the Google Translate app to take a photo and highlight the words. It's exactly what the OP said.

Sal_UKSheffield · 12 October 2015, 10:00 AM

Purchased a sub about 4/6 weeks ago
Nothing like that in the UK
Seems silly and not true imo

In the UK you get a 7/14 day change your mind policy with anything so it would be against the interest of the AD to remove stickers as if you change your mind and return it then they have a watch with no protective stickers on it

wantonebad · 12 October 2015, 10:06 AM

Interesting... and not in a good way!!

THC · 12 October 2015, 10:08 AM

And the biggest joy in buying a new Rolex is peeling off the stickers myself.. that AD and I would have fought, lol

AzHadEnuf · 12 October 2015, 10:14 AM

Here's what I could get from Google Translate.

Rolex International Warranty card billing postcard personal information and guidance This time Thank you for your purchase of Rolex International Warranty card billing personal information you wish of the principle guarantee card issuing and sending DM · article had you fill out a postcard of Handling It will be used for the purpose of guidance sent to the customer to be. Further, in the authorized dealer of Rolex, and is considering the purchase, more customers so that you appropriate your desired products Ikitodoki, purchased for the purpose of resale me refuse firmly If you find that your purchase for the purpose of resale that available to you, or if you encounter the reasonable doubt, the personal information of customers in Japan Rolex Corporation and authorized dealer is required range of national share, use, thereafter, please beforehand understand that there is a case where I am allowed to refuse the purchase of Rolex Japan Rolex Co.

Seems to address something about resale.

???

guy369 · 12 October 2015, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by THC

And the biggest joy in buying a new Rolex is peeling off the stickers myself.. that AD and I would have fought, lol

I love peeling off stickers, labels, etc off new items...Not sure I would enjoy the experience if someone else had that privilege with my item.

redsubby · 14 October 2015, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by guy369

I love peeling off stickers, labels, etc off new items...Not sure I would enjoy the experience if someone else had that privilege with my item.

You can still peel off those sticker at the store in front of the sales person. No big deal.

Mak2013 · 12 October 2015, 10:18 AM

Thats interesting. This could mean trouble for Greys and benefit fir avg Joe.
In order to preserve brand equity, id be the first to pay retail if that meant fair game for everyone

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joe100 · 12 October 2015, 10:31 AM

Hermes has the same policy. Although, if you walk into an Hermes store they still have to sell to you.

I agree though, I pay the money, I can flip to whomever I want

FTX I · 12 October 2015, 10:33 AM

You trust them and they don't trust you?

sickened1 · 12 October 2015, 10:37 AM

Translation on the reseller part (the top part is about privacy issue on personal info on international warranty card):

"If Rolex Japan find that the purpose of the sale is to resell (or any suspicious activity related to reselling), then Rolex Japan may share (and/or use) your personal information among its authorized dealers nationwide to possibly refuse future sales of its products to the said customer.

Japan Rolex Corporation"

In a nutshell, you'll be blacklisted by Rolex Japan. It's clearly stated "Rolex Japan". I haven't seen these wording in US yet.

dogpawss · 12 October 2015, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickened1

Translation on the reseller part (the top part is about privacy issue on personal info on international warranty card):

"If Rolex Japan find that the purpose of the sale is to resell (or any suspicious activity related to reselling), then Rolex Japan may share and/or use your personal information among its authorized dealers nationwide to possibly refuse future sales of its products to the said reseller.

Japan Rolex Corporation"

In a nutshell, you'll be blacklisted by Rolex Japan. It's clearly stated "Rolex Japan". I haven't seen these wording in US yet.

sickened1,

Appreciate your perfect translation!!

sickened1 · 12 October 2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dogpawss

sickened1,

Appreciate your perfect translation!!

You bet and that was my significant other.

She can speak, read and write perfect Japanese.

12 October 2015, 09:21 AM	#1
dogpawss "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 285	New policy to remove the films by Rolex AD Since July first this year, when you purchase a new Rolex from ADs in Japan, along with the nice green box, green tag and manual you will also receive this message from Rolex Japan telling that if Rolex finds out you are a flipper or "tenbai" in Japanese term, your name will be blacklisted and Rolex Japan will not sell watches to that individual. Is this happening in other countries as well? The ADs also size your new Rolex as they take off the protection films to avoid being sold to grey dealers.

12 October 2015, 09:40 AM	#10
sutats "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 1,225	Interesting, and it is quite a radical measure and I suspect currency exchange rates has a part to play much like the global price adjustments by Patek in the first half of the year. __________________ There's no such thing as a Submariner No Date, it's simply Submariner. You don't call a Porsche 911 Turbo, a Porsche 911 Turbo No S. www.instagram.com/sutatshorology Post Your Rolex/Tudor Watch Weight (PYRTWW)

12 October 2015, 10:06 AM	#20
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	Interesting... and not in a good way!! __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

12 October 2015, 10:14 AM	#22
AzHadEnuf "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Ralph Location: Tucson, Arizona Watch: 6263,DJ,SUB,BB,THR Posts: 2,043	Here's what I could get from Google Translate. Rolex International Warranty card billing postcard personal information and guidance This time Thank you for your purchase of Rolex International Warranty card billing personal information you wish of the principle guarantee card issuing and sending DM · article had you fill out a postcard of Handling It will be used for the purpose of guidance sent to the customer to be. Further, in the authorized dealer of Rolex, and is considering the purchase, more customers so that you appropriate your desired products Ikitodoki, purchased for the purpose of resale me refuse firmly If you find that your purchase for the purpose of resale that available to you, or if you encounter the reasonable doubt, the personal information of customers in Japan Rolex Corporation and authorized dealer is required range of national share, use, thereafter, please beforehand understand that there is a case where I am allowed to refuse the purchase of Rolex Japan Rolex Co. Seems to address something about resale. ??? __________________ "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -A. Einstein

12 October 2015, 10:31 AM	#26
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,838	Hermes has the same policy. Although, if you walk into an Hermes store they still have to sell to you. I agree though, I pay the money, I can flip to whomever I want __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

12 October 2015, 09:28 AM	#2
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	If you buy a watch legit from an AD, then later decide to get something different and sell it or whatever why would they care? You bought it why cant you do what ya want with it? Mine still let me take the plastic off if and when I want?

12 October 2015, 09:32 AM	#4
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,691	They mean if you keep all the original packaging and plastic and try to sell it as new. I'm guessing. Like to watch brokers and stuff.

12 October 2015, 09:32 AM	#9
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,797	Interesting. What else does it say on that note?

12 October 2015, 09:42 AM	#11
Watchgeek5000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Brooklyn USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 1,622	If that's true let's all pledge our undying loyalty to another brand.

12 October 2015, 09:59 AM	#17
Majin Buu "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Joe Location: Planet Earth Watch: Datejust now Posts: 927	Hi ! Can you or anyone, please, fully translate what is written on the cards? Cheers ! MB

12 October 2015, 10:00 AM	#19
Sal_UKSheffield "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: UK Posts: 1,284	Purchased a sub about 4/6 weeks ago Nothing like that in the UK Seems silly and not true imo In the UK you get a 7/14 day change your mind policy with anything so it would be against the interest of the AD to remove stickers as if you change your mind and return it then they have a watch with no protective stickers on it

12 October 2015, 10:08 AM	#21
THC 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Mandeville La Watch: 126333 Posts: 10,662	And the biggest joy in buying a new Rolex is peeling off the stickers myself.. that AD and I would have fought, lol

12 October 2015, 10:18 AM	#25
Mak2013 Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC Watch: Rolex 14060M Posts: 681	Thats interesting. This could mean trouble for Greys and benefit fir avg Joe. In order to preserve brand equity, id be the first to pay retail if that meant fair game for everyone Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 October 2015, 10:33 AM	#27
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	You trust them and they don't trust you?

12 October 2015, 10:37 AM	#28
sickened1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: SoCal Watch: ugiveiswatchuget Posts: 9,051	New policy to remove the films by Rolex AD Translation on the reseller part (the top part is about privacy issue on personal info on international warranty card): "If Rolex Japan find that the purpose of the sale is to resell (or any suspicious activity related to reselling), then Rolex Japan may share (and/or use) your personal information among its authorized dealers nationwide to possibly refuse future sales of its products to the said customer. Japan Rolex Corporation" In a nutshell, you'll be blacklisted by Rolex Japan. It's clearly stated "Rolex Japan". I haven't seen these wording in US yet.

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