Milgauss too fast, GMT Reserve, Heathrow Plastic, TASER

[CashGap]

I'm sure much of this has been covered in other posts, but I'm looking for some specific advice. I'll try to combine four topics to keep it a least a little interesting.

After 64 months of enjoying my 116713 GMT, I received a 116400 white faced Milgauss as a recent anniversary present. I'm delighted that it "wears modest" to non-WIS observers, has a white face, and no cyclops.

1. It's Fast. Real Fast.

Over eleven days of wear 24x7, it's gained 110 seconds and it has done so very evenly, roughly 10 seconds gained every day. Watch was new in box from TRF trusted seller, came with red tag and international warranty card completed by a Swedish dealer with "October 15" and no name on the card.

I suppose it needs to be regulated, and I suppose that the consistency (ten seconds exactly every day) is a good sign?

I'm going to reset it to zero and monitor it over another ten days. Let me know if I'm missing something. I wear a watch 24x7, so I don't think the "Face down" trick will help much?

2. GMT Power Reserve

So, I bought the GMT NIB in 2011. It has a 2007 dated warranty card. This watch has been a PHENOMENAL time keeper. I tracked performance once per month, it averaged 1.52 seconds gained per day over 64 months with the WORST month gaining 3.85 seconds per day.

Now that I have the Milgauss, I was finally able to test the GMT's power reserve. 33 hours after a forty turn wind.

I'm testing it again, but could such a power reserve result mean it's service time even with precise time keeping?

3. Heathrow Plastic


So, on our anniversary trip, we had a bit of time at Heathrow T5. I stopped in and was admiring watches. "Selma" had just the right approach. Complimented my watch and congratulated me when I said it was an anniversary present. I told her I had just removed the last piece of plastic on the plane.

She smiled and said "I'll bet you didn't get them all. Why don't you try something on while I check?". Well, if you put it that way... how about the White Gold GMT???

And of course, she was right.

4. Taser!


As part of reserve officer training, I get to "Ride The Lightning" this coming Saturday. Any chance it will hurt my watch? (I intend to remove it, but I am genuinely curious).

THANKS

[Limey-]

Taser will not harm your watch. Its no big deal. took that ride a number of times. much prefer that to OC which i have also dealt with way to many times. Have fun.

[WS9D]

Originally Posted by Limey-

Taser will not harm your watch. Its no big deal. took that ride a number of times. much prefer that to OC which i have also dealt with way to many times. Have fun.

ditto this.

[watchwatcher]

Congrats on your anniversary and the new watch...it's a beauty for sure.

1. I wouldn't worry about the timing just yet on the millie...let it settle in for a bit and see how she does. If it needs regulating, than that's a simple procedure you can always pursue later on.

2. Also wouldn't worry about the GMT..sounds like it's performing like a champ. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

3. You need to buy that Pepsi...looks great on you!

4. No worries.

[locutus49]

Love the new Pepsi. One of my grails (someday).

[dera]

I would be concerned about the date on the warranty paper. Red tag and October 2015 is not possible.

[Lightforce1911]

Originally Posted by dera

I would be concerned about the date on the warranty paper. Red tag and October 2015 is not possible.

Yea 2015-were all green tag

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[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Lightforce1911

Yea 2015-were all green tag

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Not all. From July onwards.

[Lightforce1911]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Not all. From July onwards.

My friend got a Rolex in 2014 Oct. Had green tag.

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[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Lightforce1911

My friend got a Rolex in 2014 Oct. Had green tag.

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I assume you're talking about the green sales tag, not the cosc tag.

[Old Expat Beast]

See paragraph three onwards on this letter dated July 2015.

[Lightforce1911]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

See paragraph three onwards on this letter dated July 2015.

Well my friend lied to me then. My bad.

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[dera]

Just like Adam said (and posted that letter as well) - 1Jul2015-> every single Rolex sold by a Rolex AD had the green tag. If you have a paper that says anything later than 1/7/15 and have the red tag, something is not right.

OP, I would talk to your "trusted seller" about this.

[Lightforce1911]

Originally Posted by dera

Just like Adam said (and posted that letter as well) - 1Jul2015-> every single Rolex sold by a Rolex AD had the green tag. If you have a paper that says anything later than 1/7/15 and have the red tag, something is not right.

OP, I would talk to your "trusted seller" about this.

Yea oct2015 has to have green tag

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[77T]

I think the key point here about red tag green tag is the operant phrase, "all watches in your stock".

Oftentimes dealers having cozy arrangements with trusted sellers will place a few watches with the seller who then has an open card. The red tag would've accompanied any watch in stock prior to July 2015 - and the watch could have left the AD earlier. But it doesn't sell until October when the card gets dated.

[dera]

Originally Posted by 77T

I think the key point here about red tag green tag is the operant phrase, "all watches in your stock".

Oftentimes dealers having cozy arrangements with trusted sellers will place a few watches with the seller who then has an open card. The red tag would've accompanied any watch in stock prior to July 2015 - and the watch could have left the AD earlier. But it doesn't sell until October when the card gets dated.

In OPs case that's dishonest at best and almost verging on fraudulent. When was the warranty activated then?
The date on the card means absolutely nothing for the warranty. What matters is the date of the swipe. The swipe was before 1/July, card was dated October 2015. I would have some serious questions for this "trusted seller".

[igwt]

Yes date of the card and date of activation of the card or card swipe should be the same... or else the date of the card and date in the database of Rolex wont match... might have a problem when getting the watch serviced..

[dera]

Originally Posted by igwt

Yes date of the card and date of activation of the card or card swipe should be the same... or else the date of the card and date in the database of Rolex wont match... might have a problem when getting the watch serviced..

They will service it, but owner pays for it. Officially watch like this has no warranty, so hope this was disclosed to the buyer when he bought it.

[Ar_Mi]

That BLRO is amazing.. and a good looking lady holding your watch in the background ;) nice pic in my opinion

[dera]

Originally Posted by Ar_Mi

That BLRO is amazing.. and a good looking lady holding your watch in the background ;) nice pic in my opinion

The service @ Heathrow T5 Rolex store is always picture perfect

[Matt C]

Sounds magnetized to me, at least it could be the case.


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[beancooker]

Originally Posted by Matt C

Sounds magnetized to me, at least it could be the case.


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I don't think the Milgauss is magnetized. It's just a hunch, but I think I'm right in this case...

[dera]

Originally Posted by beancooker

I don't think the Milgauss is magnetized. It's just a hunch, but I think I'm right in this case...

Whatever the issue is, the OP needs to clarify it with his "trusted seller". The paperwork is not legit.

[77T]

Originally Posted by dera

The date on the card means absolutely nothing for the warranty. What matters is the date of the swipe. The swipe was before 1/July, card was dated October 2015. I would have some serious questions for this "trusted seller".

Originally Posted by dera

They will service it, but owner pays for it. Officially watch like this has no warranty, so hope this was disclosed to the buyer when he bought it.

Originally Posted by dera

Whatever the issue is, the OP needs to clarify it with his "trusted seller". The paperwork is not legit.

I think you read more into my post than was intended. I was not questioning the seller's practices. Just offering a plausible explanation why a red tag was in the box.

I do believe the seller would have dated the card correctly, and also had the AD swipe it in October.

It's just possible the watch wasn't in the AD's possession while it was being offered by the seller. The red tag/green tag thing could be a simple oversight. The color of a tag will have nothing to do with how the RSC should service the watch under warranty.

[dera]

Originally Posted by 77T

I think you read more into my post than was intended. I was not questioning the seller's practices. Just offering a plausible explanation why a red tag was in the box.

I do believe the seller would have dated the card correctly, and also had the AD swipe it in October.

It's just possible the watch wasn't in the AD's possession while it was being offered by the seller. The red tag/green tag thing could be a simple oversight. The color of a tag will have nothing to do with how the RSC should service the watch under warranty.

Sir, the warranty card was from Sweden. I seriously doubt the seller sent the card back to Sweden for a swipe, then got it back.

[Matt C]

Originally Posted by beancooker

I don't think the Milgauss is magnetized. It's just a hunch, but I think I'm right in this case...

Wow, total brain fart, my mistake guys! I should know I own a GV! 😳

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Matt C

Sounds magnetized to me, at least it could be the case.


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When my Explorer was magnetized it was erratic. If the Milgauss is consistently fast (always 10 s/d) regulation is probably the issue.

[Matt C]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

When my Explorer was magnetized it was erratic. If the Milgauss is consistently fast (always 10 s/d) regulation is probably the issue.

Thanks for the information, that is more than likely the case here.

[CashGap]

I'll monitor it for ten more days and see how it runs.

Here is a photo of the watch, tag, and card as received in February.

The "dealer" portion of the card causes me no concerns. It's the dealer name and country exactly as shown on Rolex.com, and appears to be machine filed by ink or toner.

The bottom portion, eh. "October 15" isn't a real solid response to a dd.mm.yyyy question. So it could be read as "Sometime in October 15" or "October the 15th of some year".

Actual ad phrase was "Watch is brand new with complete original boxes, papers, warranty card, and under manufacturer's warranty".

So yes, it could be October 15, 2013 and still be accurate. Perhaps I should have questioned that in more detail.

Overall, I do not believe the seller misrepresented at all, even if the date of purchase turns out to be October 15, 2013 and not "Sometime in October 2015". I expect the Dallas RSC will regulate it under warranty, and like most I expect it will never return there.

I really want to protect the seller at this point. My failure to take questions to the next level does not reflect badly on him. Every interaction and every recommendation here predicts that in the rare case the RSC won't regulate it under warranty, he'll want to make it right.

THANKS for the information. I'll let y'all know how it goes (Speed, tasering, and warranty regulation).

[Old Expat Beast]

Recently we had a red-tag query on a post-July 2015 watch (bought from a trusted seller), and it turned out the warranty card had been tampered with (date changed).