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daytonaTBR · 17 July 2016, 08:03 AM

So I was late to the party, but am on the list at a few local ADs for one. Not expecting anything anytime soon though. So I'm probably gonna pick up a blnr while I wait for the new daytona. When do you all think the new DaytonaCs will be at or around MSRP on the secondary market?

joe100 · 17 July 2016, 08:06 AM

Not for many a moon I'm afraid. It'll happen eventually though

Lordofrolex · 19 July 2016, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by joe100

Not for many a moon I'm afraid. It'll happen eventually though

This is kind of like the deep B which was higher priced on the forums than at an AD. Just wait for your name to be called at an AD and buy it for MSRP. The grey market will always have it higher for some time.

masyv6 · 17 July 2016, 08:21 AM

I'd imagine it'll be awhile. I won't be holding my breath. Too many other great watches out there to experience!

brucethemanlee · 17 July 2016, 08:33 AM

8 years?

ABChop · 17 July 2016, 08:49 AM

2026

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goog53 · 17 July 2016, 08:50 AM

Do you really want a BLNR? And if you buy it does it delay the Daytona purchase? These are questions you need to ask yourself. I wouldn't give up hope on the Daytona

T. Ferguson · 17 July 2016, 08:53 AM

As soon as my AD gets one. I expect he will sell it at precisely MSRP plus tax. And not to me, lol!

daytonaTBR · 17 July 2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

Do you really want a BLNR? And if you buy it does it delay the Daytona purchase? These are questions you need to ask yourself. I wouldn't give up hope on the Daytona

I just want a SS Rolex as a daily beater. I thought I could live without one in my collection after I sold my sub but want another now lol. BLNR is my 2nd favorite behind the Daytona. It doesn't delay the daytona purchase at all and I'll probably flip it when I can get a daytona

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Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

As soon as my AD gets one. I expect he will sell it at precisely MSRP plus tax. And not to me, lol!

padi56 · 18 July 2016, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

As soon as my AD gets one. I expect he will sell it at precisely MSRP plus tax. And not to me, lol!

Have to agree its not like its even a new watch just a cosmetically changed old one,to be honest just cannot understand why there should be any shortage. It was at the ADs just 3 months after Basel that's shows how easy it was to produce the so called new Daytona.

Rosex · 16 October 2019, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree its not like its even a new watch just a cosmetically changed old one,to be honest just cannot understand why there should be any shortage. It was at the ADs just 3 months after Basel that's shows how easy it was to produce the so called new Daytona.

Rolex start stockpiling inventory long before Basel.

Daytona has for many years been at a premium. The only time in the near future that they will be available at MSRP will be if we see a major economic melt down and trust me 98% of us will not be intrested all of a sudden.

Racerdj · 17 July 2016, 09:10 AM

Not for awhile is my guess. It all depends on how many hit the market and when.

watchnlaw · 17 July 2016, 10:52 AM

We've already seen prices drop from 20k+ to 16k and I've seen some sell for a bit less. I have to imagine that a year or two from now they will be pretty close to MSRP. The people who want them THAT badly will buy them off the secondhand market but the willingness to pay this much over MSRP will dwindle as those people get a hold of them and the watch loses more of its "who-can-get-one-first" status. Those on the AD list will start to receive more and more phone calls as the year goes on. I can't imagine it lasts much longer than another year or two.

AK797 · 17 July 2016, 10:57 AM

On the used market will be a long time, sellers will milk the rare and super exclusive myth for as long as possible.

jrs146 · 19 July 2016, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

On the used market will be a long time, sellers will milk the rare and super exclusive myth for as long as possible.

This

Best bet for MSRP is to get on a list and wait... and wait... and wait.

tjbender · 17 July 2016, 11:01 AM

My guess would be 6-8 years

artschool · 18 July 2016, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tjbender

My guess would be 6-8 years

i would guess 8-9 years.

Andad · 17 July 2016, 12:05 PM

Rolex set the prices so why hasn't it been at AD msrp since its release?

Availability is one thing, price gouging (or being asked to buy another watch at the same time) is another.

ap1 · 17 July 2016, 12:10 PM

Who knows - not soon though

opaline460 · 17 July 2016, 12:24 PM

Another year

ernie2 · 17 July 2016, 12:37 PM

You can use the past Daytona price and availability as benchmark, i would say 10 years, at least

jw0n · 17 July 2016, 01:52 PM

Hmm, good question. Both the Batman and Hulk are still selling at a premium here in Asia. I expected the BLNR to stabilize in a couple of years, but it never did. I don't forsee the DaytonaC coming down in price any time soon. Perhaps closer to retail over 5-7 years?

GB-man · 17 July 2016, 02:41 PM

In the USA I would estimate 18 months longer. Pure BS guess.

Star Ferry · 17 July 2016, 03:11 PM

A year from now, I think TRF trusted sellers will still be selling at 10%+ premium to MSRP. Buying at MSRP from an AD will probably still be a challenge.

Gaijin · 17 July 2016, 03:12 PM

Maybe never. During the old SS Daytona run during the then artificially created "rare"ness created by Rolex NIB SS Daytonas were selling at a premium in the grey market. Only the financial meltdown of 2008/09 stopped that nonsense.

conradwu · 17 July 2016, 03:19 PM

I'd guess early 2018. Good pick on the BLNR!

I spoke with one of the more senior SA at a large Rolex boutique earlier today, whom I had purchased two popular SS sport models from this year. Now this may only apply to this specific boutique, so please take this with a grain of salt. While I'm not a VIP by any means, she assured me that while the "list" is real, she would be able to get one for me middle of next year. A SA giving you hope is one thing, but to have a specific timeframe? That definitely got my attention. So if an ordinary guy like me has a shot, I don't see why the "real" VIPs can't get theirs by the end of this year, early next.

We also spoke of the recent slowdown in demand for luxury watches, which definitely plays a factor to the availability of the DaytonaC. Perhaps each SA has their favorites, which I hope I'm one of, but empty promise or not, the recent decrease (from 20k to upper 16k) over just the past 2-3 months is more evidence that people having been increasingly been able to get their hands on one.

Note: this may only apply to the States. I don't see markets like Asia slowing down anytime soon...

Rocket_Man · 17 July 2016, 03:43 PM

I don't think it will be as long as people think. The number of buyers willing to pay that much of a premium are already decreasing. I'd guess that within a year there won't be that many people willing to pay $16K for a $12K watch. The excitement will be gone and those with enough money to pay an extra $4K for the watch will already have one. But I'd guess they will hold their value for a long time, just not a premium.

ronin_ph · 18 July 2016, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by conradwu

Note: this may only apply to the States. I don't see markets like Asia slowing down anytime soon...

Went to an AD today in Asia. Inquired about the DaytonaC and she told me their first was sold last week. Price was about USD$13,900 which I though wasn't bad (considering the markup in other items here). No 'list' per se. She said they just 'call everyone' and its first come first serve. Also mentioned the white would be more expensive.

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beshannon · 17 July 2016, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aw15

When do you think the DaytonaC will be at/around MSRP?

When people stop paying above MSRP.

Rolex addict · 18 July 2016, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

When people stop paying above MSRP.

Pretty much sums it up here.

17 July 2016, 08:03 AM	#1
daytonaTBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 1,466	When do you think the DaytonaC will be at/around MSRP? So I was late to the party, but am on the list at a few local ADs for one. Not expecting anything anytime soon though. So I'm probably gonna pick up a blnr while I wait for the new daytona. When do you all think the new DaytonaCs will be at or around MSRP on the secondary market?

17 July 2016, 08:06 AM	#2
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,838	Not for many a moon I'm afraid. It'll happen eventually though __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

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17 July 2016, 08:53 AM	#8
T. Ferguson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Left Coast Posts: 7,025	As soon as my AD gets one. I expect he will sell it at precisely MSRP plus tax. And not to me, lol! __________________ *Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.*

17 July 2016, 09:10 AM	#12
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	Not for awhile is my guess. It all depends on how many hit the market and when. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

17 July 2016, 08:21 AM	#4
masyv6 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: 35000ft Posts: 3,771	I'd imagine it'll be awhile. I won't be holding my breath. Too many other great watches out there to experience!

17 July 2016, 08:33 AM	#5
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,574	8 years?

17 July 2016, 08:50 AM	#7
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,075	Do you really want a BLNR? And if you buy it does it delay the Daytona purchase? These are questions you need to ask yourself. I wouldn't give up hope on the Daytona

17 July 2016, 10:52 AM	#13
watchnlaw "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 45	We've already seen prices drop from 20k+ to 16k and I've seen some sell for a bit less. I have to imagine that a year or two from now they will be pretty close to MSRP. The people who want them THAT badly will buy them off the secondhand market but the willingness to pay this much over MSRP will dwindle as those people get a hold of them and the watch loses more of its "who-can-get-one-first" status. Those on the AD list will start to receive more and more phone calls as the year goes on. I can't imagine it lasts much longer than another year or two.

17 July 2016, 10:57 AM	#14
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	On the used market will be a long time, sellers will milk the rare and super exclusive myth for as long as possible.

17 July 2016, 11:01 AM	#16
tjbender 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Tim Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 2,428	My guess would be 6-8 years

17 July 2016, 12:05 PM	#18
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,497	Rolex set the prices so why hasn't it been at AD msrp since its release? Availability is one thing, price gouging (or being asked to buy another watch at the same time) is another. __________________ E

17 July 2016, 12:10 PM	#19
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,519	Who knows - not soon though

17 July 2016, 12:24 PM	#20
opaline460 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,386	Another year

17 July 2016, 12:37 PM	#21
ernie2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Arnold Location: New York Watch: SD4K+BLNR Posts: 849	You can use the past Daytona price and availability as benchmark, i would say 10 years, at least

17 July 2016, 01:52 PM	#22
jw0n "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Won Location: Asia Posts: 1,439	Hmm, good question. Both the Batman and Hulk are still selling at a premium here in Asia. I expected the BLNR to stabilize in a couple of years, but it never did. I don't forsee the DaytonaC coming down in price any time soon. Perhaps closer to retail over 5-7 years? __________________ Instagram: @itsjw0n

17 July 2016, 02:41 PM	#23
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,329	In the USA I would estimate 18 months longer. Pure BS guess. __________________

17 July 2016, 03:11 PM	#24
Star Ferry Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: down by the river Posts: 4,926	A year from now, I think TRF trusted sellers will still be selling at 10%+ premium to MSRP. Buying at MSRP from an AD will probably still be a challenge.

17 July 2016, 03:12 PM	#25
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Maybe never. During the old SS Daytona run during the then artificially created "rare"ness created by Rolex NIB SS Daytonas were selling at a premium in the grey market. Only the financial meltdown of 2008/09 stopped that nonsense.

17 July 2016, 03:19 PM	#26
conradwu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Watch: 116509 Posts: 26	I'd guess early 2018. Good pick on the BLNR! I spoke with one of the more senior SA at a large Rolex boutique earlier today, whom I had purchased two popular SS sport models from this year. Now this may only apply to this specific boutique, so please take this with a grain of salt. While I'm not a VIP by any means, she assured me that while the "list" is real, she would be able to get one for me middle of next year. A SA giving you hope is one thing, but to have a specific timeframe? That definitely got my attention. So if an ordinary guy like me has a shot, I don't see why the "real" VIPs can't get theirs by the end of this year, early next. We also spoke of the recent slowdown in demand for luxury watches, which definitely plays a factor to the availability of the DaytonaC. Perhaps each SA has their favorites, which I hope I'm one of, but empty promise or not, the recent decrease (from 20k to upper 16k) over just the past 2-3 months is more evidence that people having been increasingly been able to get their hands on one. Note: this may only apply to the States. I don't see markets like Asia slowing down anytime soon...

17 July 2016, 03:43 PM	#27
Rocket_Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,332	I don't think it will be as long as people think. The number of buyers willing to pay that much of a premium are already decreasing. I'd guess that within a year there won't be that many people willing to pay $16K for a $12K watch. The excitement will be gone and those with enough money to pay an extra $4K for the watch will already have one. But I'd guess they will hold their value for a long time, just not a premium.

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