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Token74 · 11 September 2016, 09:37 PM

Out and about today and notice a used Submariner in the shop window of a jeweller...£6,500!! £800 above list price!!

And I was speaking to my local AD a few weeks ago, who told me they'd just sold a used BLNR at £500 over list.

Sports watches hard to get right now over here I guess?

SC11 · 11 September 2016, 09:42 PM

A fool and his money are easily parted!

Must be a few fools around

jaySL350 · 12 September 2016, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

A fool and his money are easily parted!

Must be a few fools around

yep! i must be one of those fools for having no patience

,,,,,
starting to think i had a "result" paying £450 over list for my not yet one year old blnr with everything except the swimpruf tag,,,,,

masyv6 · 13 September 2016, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

A fool and his money are easily parted!

Must be a few fools around

There will always be fools around

fskywalker · 11 September 2016, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Token74

Out and about today and notice a used Submariner in the shop window of a jeweller...£6,500!! £800 above list price!!

And I was speaking to my local AD a few weeks ago, who told me they'd just sold a used BLNR at £500 over list.

Sports watches hard to get right now over here I guess?

That's crazy......

Steve36Efc · 11 September 2016, 11:11 PM

I was in Manchester Trafford Centre yesterday and noticed there was a reasonable selection of SS models.

Milgauss
Explorer and Explorer 2
A couple of TT Gmt 2

And there was someone trying on an LVC but not sure if he ended up buying it. Definite short supply of SS models in general but it is possible to drop lucky, certainly not worth paying over RRP. I would much rather wait for the much talked about price rise and get a spanker.

OmegaJJH · 12 September 2016, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve36Efc

I was in Manchester Trafford Centre yesterday and noticed there was a reasonable selection of SS models.

Milgauss
Explorer and Explorer 2
A couple of TT Gmt 2

And there was someone trying on an LVC but not sure if he ended up buying it. Definite short supply of SS models in general but it is possible to drop lucky, certainly not worth paying over RRP. I would much rather wait for the much talked about price rise and get a spanker.

I assume you're talking about Goldsmiths....

They're the muppets who quoted a 25 year wait on Daytona C I mentioned in a thread a couple of weeks ago.

Steve36Efc · 12 September 2016, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaJJH

I assume you're talking about Goldsmiths....

They're the muppets who quoted a 25 year wait on Daytona C I mentioned in a thread a couple of weeks ago.

Correct. I picked up my BLNR from them last year, not very helpful when I wasn't too happy with the cyclopse mag about a month later. But I still have a nose when I'm there.

Nairn1980 · 12 September 2016, 01:50 AM

Crazy price!!!!!
Glasgow preowned stores have some equally nutty pricing but today I saw exactly the same watch as that for £5450 so just under list. Still hardly a bargain.

A BLNR over list isn't great, a standard sub over list is just taking the mickey!!!

Token74 · 12 September 2016, 01:55 AM

I wonder whether Rolex are playing a clever game in the UK right now; limit supply of the most popular models, watch the pre-owned prices increase as a result (above list in some cases), and then increase their prices, by which point the market will be used to higher prices, and the apperite of those wanting to buy new will be suitably whetted by having had to wait.

Crazy theory perhaps...

Kippers · 12 September 2016, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Token74

I wonder whether Rolex are playing a clever game in the UK right now; limit supply of the most popular models, watch the pre-owned prices increase as a result (above list in some cases), and then increase their prices, by which point the market will be used to higher prices, and the apperite of those wanting to buy new will be suitably whetted by having had to wait.

Crazy theory perhaps...

Not so crazy theory. It would help Rolex justify the higher price. I also believe the new 5 year warranty was introduced to raise prices in the pre owned and new markets.

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strafer_kid · 12 September 2016, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kippers

Not so crazy theory. It would help Rolex justify the higher price. I also believe the new 5 year warranty was introduced to raise prices in the pre owned and new markets.

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Could be............

kultschar · 12 September 2016, 02:10 AM

Wonder if its games by Rolex to screw up the grey dealers?

Jack T · 12 September 2016, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kultschar

Wonder if its games by Rolex to screw up the grey dealers?

Can't mess with the grey market dealers too much; it's an outlet for Rolex' own AD's to accommodate the manufacturer's purchase requirements.

AK797 · 12 September 2016, 02:18 AM

Watchfinder's prices are highly marked up, sign of the times here... until the price increase.

Seaswirl · 12 September 2016, 02:40 AM

Something definitely seems afoot. At the Rolex AD at Heathrow T5 yesterday, the wall displays that typically contain the ss sport models were all closed with wall panels. All they had on display were DJs, PM sport models and one ExpII.

Black Bay Dan · 12 September 2016, 02:45 AM

I see that Watchfinder's stock of 16610LV Submariners are now listed at £6950 each. Earlier this year they were around £6250, some without box were even below £6k.

Dan

Jacobson · 12 September 2016, 02:51 AM

Have you seen their price on a 5 month old (never worn) BLNR?

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Rolex/G...940/item/73158

I'm gob smacked.

A friend of mine paid £7250 for an unworn one Monday gone.

Shaky · 12 September 2016, 03:08 AM

Lmao. You would have to be insane to pay the prices of some of these pre owned watches for sale.
It's not as though they are normally that restricted to get hold of. There is definitely a drought in this country but it has been created by Rolex and helped along by AD's imo.

Don't think it will change until the unicorn, sorry I mean price rise reveals itself and then the SS sports models will come out of the storage cupboard.

I wonder if someone where to walk into an AD and offer to pay £5500 for a new ND sub, if they would suddenly find one !!

del101 · 12 September 2016, 03:15 AM

Seen that to Cheltenham?

Token74 · 12 September 2016, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by del101

Seen that to Cheltenham?

Yep, Regents Arcade.

BLACKHORSE 6 · 12 September 2016, 03:33 AM

Rolex MSRP prices are already pretty high for a SS watch. To pay over MSRP is crazy.

ryan1011 · 12 September 2016, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Token74

Out and about today and notice a used Submariner in the shop window of a jeweller...£6,500!! £800 above list price!!

And I was speaking to my local AD a few weeks ago, who told me they'd just sold a used BLNR at £500 over list.

Sports watches hard to get right now over here I guess?

AD's arent allowed to sell over the RRP you must be talking about grey dealer

Jacobson · 12 September 2016, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan1011

AD's arent allowed to sell over the RRP you must be talking about grey dealer

I think used watches can be sold @ any price they wish

Token74 · 12 September 2016, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan1011

AD's arent allowed to sell over the RRP you must be talking about grey dealer

It is an AD. There are no restrictions on used prices.

ryan1011 · 12 September 2016, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Token74

It is an AD. There are no restrictions on used prices.

When you say 'AD' you can't mean one of these stores listed on Rolex's website as a dealer as they wouldnt sell used pieces as Rolex wouldnt see a penny of that profit on the resale??

https://www.rolex.com/rolex-dealers/...49357099999975

Token74 · 12 September 2016, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan1011

When you say 'AD' you can't mean one of these stores listed on Rolex's website as a dealer as they wouldnt sell used pieces as Rolex wouldnt see a penny of that profit on the resale??

https://www.rolex.com/rolex-dealers/...49357099999975

I do mean an AD and it is listed on the Rolex site. And they do sell used pieces. And they can sell them at any price they wish.

OmegaJJH · 12 September 2016, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan1011

When you say 'AD' you can't mean one of these stores listed on Rolex's website as a dealer as they wouldnt sell used pieces as Rolex wouldnt see a penny of that profit on the resale??

Goldsmiths (and parent company) is probably the largest AD chain in UK. They sell used Rolex in store.

Jack Jumpin · 12 September 2016, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Token74

It is an AD. There are no restrictions on used prices.

At the moment they must be taking the seals off and saying it is used , so they can bump up the price !

AK797 · 12 September 2016, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Jumpin

At the moment they must be taking the seals off and saying it is used , so they can bump up the price !

Who knew Brexit would lead to such depravity.

11 September 2016, 09:37 PM	#1
Token74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Vince Location: England Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,748	Going crazy in the UK! Out and about today and notice a used Submariner in the shop window of a jeweller...£6,500!! £800 above list price!! And I was speaking to my local AD a few weeks ago, who told me they'd just sold a used BLNR at £500 over list. Sports watches hard to get right now over here I guess? Attached Images __________________ Time is limited, make every second count. Patek Philippe Nautilus 5990 - AP Royal Oak 15300 - AP Royal Oak 15450 Blue - AP Royal Oak 15450 Silver - AP Royal Oak Offshore 26480 - Royal Oak Offshore 15710 - Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 - Rolex Daytona 116519 - Rolex GMT 126710 BLRO - Omega Speedmaster Reduced - JLC Reverso GMT Moonphase - TAG Microtimer - Dent Pocket Watch - JLC Atmos Phases de lune

12 September 2016, 01:55 AM	#10
Token74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Vince Location: England Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,748	I wonder whether Rolex are playing a clever game in the UK right now; limit supply of the most popular models, watch the pre-owned prices increase as a result (above list in some cases), and then increase their prices, by which point the market will be used to higher prices, and the apperite of those wanting to buy new will be suitably whetted by having had to wait. Crazy theory perhaps... __________________ Time is limited, make every second count. Patek Philippe Nautilus 5990 - AP Royal Oak 15300 - AP Royal Oak 15450 Blue - AP Royal Oak 15450 Silver - AP Royal Oak Offshore 26480 - Royal Oak Offshore 15710 - Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 - Rolex Daytona 116519 - Rolex GMT 126710 BLRO - Omega Speedmaster Reduced - JLC Reverso GMT Moonphase - TAG Microtimer - Dent Pocket Watch - JLC Atmos Phases de lune

12 September 2016, 02:45 AM	#17
Black Bay Dan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Chichester Watch: Tudor Black Bay Posts: 1,600	I see that Watchfinder's stock of 16610LV Submariners are now listed at £6950 each. Earlier this year they were around £6250, some without box were even below £6k. Dan __________________ Tudor Heritage Black Bay 79220R (2015) Tudor Black Bay GMT 79830RB (2022) Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight 79030B (2023)

11 September 2016, 09:42 PM	#2
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	A fool and his money are easily parted! Must be a few fools around

11 September 2016, 11:11 PM	#6
Steve36Efc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Wales Watch: 126603 Posts: 2,606	I was in Manchester Trafford Centre yesterday and noticed there was a reasonable selection of SS models. Milgauss Explorer and Explorer 2 A couple of TT Gmt 2 And there was someone trying on an LVC but not sure if he ended up buying it. Definite short supply of SS models in general but it is possible to drop lucky, certainly not worth paying over RRP. I would much rather wait for the much talked about price rise and get a spanker.

12 September 2016, 01:50 AM	#9
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,412	Crazy price!!!!! Glasgow preowned stores have some equally nutty pricing but today I saw exactly the same watch as that for £5450 so just under list. Still hardly a bargain. A BLNR over list isn't great, a standard sub over list is just taking the mickey!!!

12 September 2016, 02:10 AM	#13
kultschar "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: End of the World Watch: PP & Rolex Posts: 1,970	Wonder if its games by Rolex to screw up the grey dealers?

12 September 2016, 02:18 AM	#15
AK797 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Watchfinder's prices are highly marked up, sign of the times here... until the price increase.

12 September 2016, 02:40 AM	#16
Seaswirl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 1,761	Something definitely seems afoot. At the Rolex AD at Heathrow T5 yesterday, the wall displays that typically contain the ss sport models were all closed with wall panels. All they had on display were DJs, PM sport models and one ExpII.

12 September 2016, 02:51 AM	#18
Jacobson "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA, UK, UAE Posts: 671	Have you seen their price on a 5 month old (never worn) BLNR? http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Rolex/G...940/item/73158 I'm gob smacked. A friend of mine paid £7250 for an unworn one Monday gone.

12 September 2016, 03:08 AM	#19
Shaky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: UK Posts: 1,125	Lmao. You would have to be insane to pay the prices of some of these pre owned watches for sale. It's not as though they are normally that restricted to get hold of. There is definitely a drought in this country but it has been created by Rolex and helped along by AD's imo. Don't think it will change until the unicorn, sorry I mean price rise reveals itself and then the SS sports models will come out of the storage cupboard. I wonder if someone where to walk into an AD and offer to pay £5500 for a new ND sub, if they would suddenly find one !!

12 September 2016, 03:15 AM	#20
del101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: uk Posts: 27	Seen that to Cheltenham?

12 September 2016, 03:33 AM	#22
BLACKHORSE 6 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: USA Watch: Rolex SS Daytona Posts: 2,702	Rolex MSRP prices are already pretty high for a SS watch. To pay over MSRP is crazy.

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