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yoda888 · 12 October 2016, 07:39 AM

I just got back from a trip out to the NYC. While there, I visited my "non local" AD whom I have relationship with.

I was talking to my rep about the waiting list for the ceramic daytonas, and she mentioned that it's about 300 long. But, they get a fair amount of deliveries that the list moves. She mentioned they get basically 1 per week which I thought was incredible considering that some ADs might get 1 a month and most probably get less then that. (I have no reason to NOT believe her in regards to the delivery frequencies as I'm sure they're probably one of the bigger ADs in NYC)

What blew my mind away was that she mentioned that Rolex is "requiring" that all customers have their Daytonas engraved to prevent them from flipping the watches. I'm not sure how true this is. Has anyone else heard this? Seems like crap to me since it's my watch and I can do anything I want with it if I was to buy it (no intentions to flip it at all).

I didn't "argue/debate" this point with her as I'll deal with it when they get to my name on the list.

Juantxo · 12 October 2016, 07:41 AM

Such mendacity. Absolutely false.

subtona · 12 October 2016, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Juantxo

Such mendacity. Absolutely false.

Well said.

That would no longer be an AD I would deal with.

It's just a watch... Some folks treat them as if they are the mona lisa.
So ridiculous.

brettpaul · 16 October 2016, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Well said.

That would no longer be an AD I would deal with.

It's just a watch... Some folks treat them as if they are the mona lisa.
So ridiculous.

Holy horse-feathers Batman....great AD!! Make sure you don't touch them with a 50-foot cattle prod...1 per week..HA!!

tomchicago · 12 December 2016, 01:49 PM

Mendacity, Big Daddy!

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Originally Posted by Juantxo

Such mendacity. Absolutely false.

JLM3 · 12 October 2016, 07:48 AM

Strictly the AD's policy and not Rolex's .

bmpregler · 12 October 2016, 08:09 AM

Totally Laughable. I would never buy from a source trying to "require" that.

No one is telling me what to do with my property.

KenNethcole · 12 October 2016, 08:12 AM

Ask Rolex and see what they have to say about "their engraving policy".

GoingPlaces · 12 October 2016, 08:16 AM

Who are these AD's?

yoda888 · 12 October 2016, 08:17 AM

Yes it all seems strange to me. This AD is legitimate and I see no reason for them to "lie" to me like that. Seems weird. Just wondering if anyone else had heard/experienced this.

We shall see what happens when I'm called about my daytona. Won't be for awhile as I got to the party late =|

77T · 12 October 2016, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by yoda888

Yes it all seems strange to me. This AD is legitimate and I see no reason for them to "lie" to me like that. Seems weird. Just wondering if anyone else had heard/experienced this.

We shall see what happens when I'm called about my daytona. Won't be for awhile as I got to the party late =|

I differ on the use of the word legitimate when I hear such false info. When they said this to you, if they cited Rolex as the source, they were untruthful.

But if you wish to deal with them under such a claim as this, it is your prerogative.

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locutus49 · 12 October 2016, 08:23 AM

Ridiculous. You are being lied to.

Corsair66 · 12 October 2016, 08:29 AM

Absolutely ridiculous! Name the lying AD...

d1ce · 12 October 2016, 08:40 AM

First time I get told what to do, when spending MY money from which THEY make a living. What you have been told is, politely spoken, pure nonsense and, more accurately spoken, a deliberate lie with potential economic consequences for them, because you could sue them for not being able to flip your watch a market value without that engramm.

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Tools · 12 October 2016, 08:48 AM

Rolex gets paid when the Dealer gets the watch. They don't get another cent when it gets sold and don't really care who it gets sold to, or if it gets re-sold a hundred times.

The idea that Rolex would be involved in a "required engraving" scheme for a single model of watch seems laughable.

Of course, I think that flippers should be tarred and feathered, but nobody listens to me about it..

RedCarrot · 12 October 2016, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Of course, I think that flippers should be tarred and feathered, but nobody listens to me about it..

Oh I agree wholeheartedly and you def have my ears

GolfPunk · 12 October 2016, 08:43 AM

Absolute BS

enjoythemusic · 12 October 2016, 08:46 AM

Name and shame AD please.

mtgjr · 12 October 2016, 08:50 AM

Utter nonsense. Maybe the AD concocted the story in order to deter would-be flippers from even asking to have their names added to the list. Not that that makes it right. Bottom line, someone is being lied to (hope it's not us).

4vCoupe · 12 October 2016, 09:31 AM

I was also told this by an AD a few months ago. On top of the ridiculous engraving thing they said that their "system " would not even allow them to sell me the Daytona because I hadn't previously purchased a Rolex from them.

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japenney · 12 October 2016, 09:39 AM

I can understand not selling a Daytona to someone who has not previously purchased a rolex from a particular AD. Same reason why some ADs are asking for deposits. It weeds out the people who are calling multiple ADs and fishing. Lets be real, there is a lot of demand for the watch and numbers on lists have to be reduced somehow in the early months/years. Obviously ADs are going to prioritize return customers and VIPs. Its just good business.

Gold Crown · 13 December 2016, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by japenney

I can understand not selling a Daytona to someone who has not previously purchased a rolex from a particular AD. Same reason why some ADs are asking for deposits. It weeds out the people who are calling multiple ADs and fishing. Lets be real, there is a lot of demand for the watch and numbers on lists have to be reduced somehow in the early months/years. Obviously ADs are going to prioritize return customers and VIPs. Its just good business.

For heavens sake just buy a gray market one, Many for sale on ebay.

Gaijin · 12 October 2016, 09:41 AM

She threw Rolex under the bus. That is an in house policy. My old AD required the same during the last SS craze when I bought mine. They would not let me leave the store without engraving something, anything on the case back. I'd been waiting for two years so I relented and put my initials on the back.

Painful. Like spray painting a smile on the Mona Lisa.

drjohngobef · 12 October 2016, 09:49 AM

No engraving on the one on my wrist, and I bought direct from my AD.

tfduff723 · 12 October 2016, 09:54 AM

It's 100% true.

When your watch comes in please make sure the AD uses a nice script so that tfd723 is clearly visible.

Then pm me.

enjoythemusic · 12 October 2016, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfduff723

It's 100% true.
When your watch comes in please make sure the AD uses a nice script so that tfd723 is clearly visible.
Then pm me.

Well played! Play on playa.

watchwatcher · 12 October 2016, 10:20 AM

dbluevette · 12 December 2016, 10:40 PM

AD experience lol

swish77 · 13 December 2016, 02:02 AM

Quick update: I called Rolex Customer Service about this mandatory engraving policy and spoke to a nice-enough fellow named George. He confirmed that Rolex knows about the policy but that ADs are allowed to set their own rules when selling the watches. He actually said he understood why I thought mandatory engraving was outrageous and said he would pass along my sentiments to higher-ups who could then "advise" the AD, whatever that means. Presumably they'll suggest that Wempe drops the policy but can't force them.

I then asked George if a Rolex AD had an even more offensive policy, something really horrible, like refusing to sell watches to certain people based on race or nationality, would Rolex then get involved? Perhaps, he said.

All in all, frustrating and ridiculous. It would be like a Mercedes dealer forcing a customer to paint pin-stripes on a new car even if they hated them. Sigh.

AK797 · 12 October 2016, 11:00 AM

Folks, it is true, I am afraid... you have to get a tattoo of the serial number on your arm as well.

12 October 2016, 07:39 AM	#1
yoda888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Outer space Posts: 147	rolex "mandatory" engraving for ceramic daytonas? I just got back from a trip out to the NYC. While there, I visited my "non local" AD whom I have relationship with. I was talking to my rep about the waiting list for the ceramic daytonas, and she mentioned that it's about 300 long. But, they get a fair amount of deliveries that the list moves. She mentioned they get basically 1 per week which I thought was incredible considering that some ADs might get 1 a month and most probably get less then that. (I have no reason to NOT believe her in regards to the delivery frequencies as I'm sure they're probably one of the bigger ADs in NYC) What blew my mind away was that she mentioned that Rolex is "requiring" that all customers have their Daytonas engraved to prevent them from flipping the watches. I'm not sure how true this is. Has anyone else heard this? Seems like crap to me since it's my watch and I can do anything I want with it if I was to buy it (no intentions to flip it at all). I didn't "argue/debate" this point with her as I'll deal with it when they get to my name on the list.

12 October 2016, 08:48 AM	#15
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,494	Rolex gets paid when the Dealer gets the watch. They don't get another cent when it gets sold and don't really care who it gets sold to, or if it gets re-sold a hundred times. The idea that Rolex would be involved in a "required engraving" scheme for a single model of watch seems laughable. Of course, I think that flippers should be tarred and feathered, but nobody listens to me about it.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

12 October 2016, 08:43 AM	#17
GolfPunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Gary Location: UK Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 4,398	Absolute BS __________________ ♕ Rolex Daytona White Gold 116509 (Ghost) ♕

12 October 2016, 08:46 AM	#18
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,028	Name and shame AD please. __________________ __________________ ----> TAMPA Meetup In December 2024 <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=13450519 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

12 October 2016, 07:41 AM	#2
Juantxo Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: Utopia Posts: 2,101	Such mendacity. Absolutely false.

12 October 2016, 07:48 AM	#6
JLM3 Banned Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: RI Watch: blusylvx2blnrsmpbb Posts: 723	Strictly the AD's policy and not Rolex's .

12 October 2016, 08:09 AM	#7
bmpregler Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Brandon Location: OK, USA Watch: Sub Date/Tudor Chr Posts: 261	Totally Laughable. I would never buy from a source trying to "require" that. No one is telling me what to do with my property.

12 October 2016, 08:12 AM	#8
KenNethcole "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Socal Posts: 861	Ask Rolex and see what they have to say about "their engraving policy".

12 October 2016, 08:16 AM	#9
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,356	Who are these AD's?

12 October 2016, 08:17 AM	#10
yoda888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Outer space Posts: 147	Yes it all seems strange to me. This AD is legitimate and I see no reason for them to "lie" to me like that. Seems weird. Just wondering if anyone else had heard/experienced this. We shall see what happens when I'm called about my daytona. Won't be for awhile as I got to the party late =\|

12 October 2016, 08:23 AM	#12
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	Ridiculous. You are being lied to.

12 October 2016, 08:29 AM	#13
Corsair66 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Clermont, FL Watch: BLRO Posts: 282	Absolutely ridiculous! Name the lying AD...

12 October 2016, 08:40 AM	#14
d1ce "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Germany Posts: 60	First time I get told what to do, when spending MY money from which THEY make a living. What you have been told is, politely spoken, pure nonsense and, more accurately spoken, a deliberate lie with potential economic consequences for them, because you could sue them for not being able to flip your watch a market value without that engramm. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

12 October 2016, 08:50 AM	#19
mtgjr Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: Pepsi GMT Posts: 2,926	Utter nonsense. Maybe the AD concocted the story in order to deter would-be flippers from even asking to have their names added to the list. Not that that makes it right. Bottom line, someone is being lied to (hope it's not us).

12 October 2016, 09:31 AM	#20
4vCoupe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMT Master 16750 Posts: 795	I was also told this by an AD a few months ago. On top of the ridiculous engraving thing they said that their "system " would not even allow them to sell me the Daytona because I hadn't previously purchased a Rolex from them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

12 October 2016, 09:39 AM	#21
japenney "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Josh Location: Canada Watch: undecided Posts: 4,777	I can understand not selling a Daytona to someone who has not previously purchased a rolex from a particular AD. Same reason why some ADs are asking for deposits. It weeds out the people who are calling multiple ADs and fishing. Lets be real, there is a lot of demand for the watch and numbers on lists have to be reduced somehow in the early months/years. Obviously ADs are going to prioritize return customers and VIPs. Its just good business.

12 October 2016, 09:41 AM	#23
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	She threw Rolex under the bus. That is an in house policy. My old AD required the same during the last SS craze when I bought mine. They would not let me leave the store without engraving something, anything on the case back. I'd been waiting for two years so I relented and put my initials on the back. Painful. Like spray painting a smile on the Mona Lisa.

12 October 2016, 09:49 AM	#24
drjohngobef "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: colleyville texas Posts: 17	No engraving on the one on my wrist, and I bought direct from my AD.

12 October 2016, 09:54 AM	#25
tfduff723 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan USA Watch: Rolex & Omega 4 Me Posts: 1,685	It's 100% true. When your watch comes in please make sure the AD uses a nice script so that tfd723 is clearly visible. Then pm me.

12 October 2016, 10:20 AM	#27
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,002

12 December 2016, 10:40 PM	#28
dbluevette "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: TEXAS Posts: 302	AD experience lol

13 December 2016, 02:02 AM	#29
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,985	Quick update: I called Rolex Customer Service about this mandatory engraving policy and spoke to a nice-enough fellow named George. He confirmed that Rolex knows about the policy but that ADs are allowed to set their own rules when selling the watches. He actually said he understood why I thought mandatory engraving was outrageous and said he would pass along my sentiments to higher-ups who could then "advise" the AD, whatever that means. Presumably they'll suggest that Wempe drops the policy but can't force them. I then asked George if a Rolex AD had an even more offensive policy, something really horrible, like refusing to sell watches to certain people based on race or nationality, would Rolex then get involved? Perhaps, he said. All in all, frustrating and ridiculous. It would be like a Mercedes dealer forcing a customer to paint pin-stripes on a new car even if they hated them. Sigh.

12 October 2016, 11:00 AM	#30
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	Folks, it is true, I am afraid... you have to get a tattoo of the serial number on your arm as well.

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