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GolfPunk · 15 October 2016, 07:54 AM

I loved this watch but changing the date on the 1st, the crown/stem cane out.

It's been repaired under warranty but I've lost confidence in the brand!

Rolex for me from now??

masterserg · 15 October 2016, 07:57 AM

It happens. APs are temperamental machines. As I always say, you should be aware before jumping in so you know what you are getting into and avoid disappointments. Usually, you won't have issues after it is fixed and AP's service is the best in the industry.

SMD · 15 October 2016, 07:58 AM

Probably. Nothing like that would ever happen to a Rolex.

FeelingTheBlues · 15 October 2016, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SMD

Probably. Nothing like that would ever happen to a Rolex.

Unless I do not get your sarcasm, I would beg to differ. At more than a million watches made every year this has to happen to a few Rolex watches every now and then.

To the OP, that's unfortunate but it does happen even to the best of them and I would not let that drive me away from AP.

SMD · 15 October 2016, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

Unless I do not get your sarcasm, I would beg to differ. At more than a million watches made every year this has to happen to a few Rolex watches every now and then.

To the OP, that's unfortunate but it does happen even to the best of them and I would not let that drive me away from AP.

Sarcasm. Buy a used watch and it has an issue and you are soured entirely on the brand? Because this only happens to AP?

FeelingTheBlues · 16 October 2016, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SMD

Sarcasm. Buy a used watch and it has an issue and you are soured entirely on the brand? Because this only happens to AP?

I see, it's hard to read sarcasm but I had a little doubt.

texex91 · 15 October 2016, 08:01 AM

Enjoy the Daytona...we know those mass produced watches never break.

These are watches. ALL brands can and will break. It's ok.

Gulfstream · 15 October 2016, 09:11 AM

Amazing... I fully understand why you wouldn't go back to AP in the near future.

GolfPunk · 15 October 2016, 09:18 AM

It's my own personal opinion. Pull out the crown of a Rolex and and AP... I guarantee the AP feels more flimsy.

GolfPunk · 15 October 2016, 09:20 AM

At the end of the day. I had the AP repaired under warranty and I've sold it for a £900 profit and I've bought a ceramic daytona. I am delighted!

anothernewphone · 15 October 2016, 09:21 AM

I don't blame you for being turned off. There's no sense in trying to convince someone otherwise - I'd probably feel the same way as you, Gary!

GolfPunk · 15 October 2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by anothernewphone

I don't blame you for being turned off. There's no sense in trying to convince someone otherwise - I'd probably feel the same way as you, Gary!

Thanks Bill. I was lucky it was in warranty...if not it's a £1300 repair bill.

AK797 · 15 October 2016, 09:29 AM

They don't feel as solid as Rolex I admit, but they've caused me no trouble so far and I know APSC deal with problems quickly and politely.

Snow-Dweller · 15 October 2016, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GolfPunk

It's my own personal opinion. Pull out the crown of a Rolex and and AP... I guarantee the AP feels more flimsy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

They don't feel as solid as Rolex I admit, but they've caused me no trouble so far and I know APSC deal with problems quickly and politely.

I agree. My APs never felt "solid" as a Rolex. Reminds me of an Aston Martin.....absolutely gorgeous but some work....some don't.

AK797 · 16 October 2016, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Snow-Dweller

I agree. My APs never felt "solid" as a Rolex. Reminds me of an Aston Martin.....absolutely gorgeous but some work....some don't.

I'm not really into cars right now but just saw an Aston Martin the other day by the house and damn it looked good, made me even think of selling a couple of watches and putting one in the garage just to gaze at it whenever.

texex91 · 15 October 2016, 09:39 AM

Well you're happy so enjoy that Rolex.

Glad you found a brand that fits you and you like.

BTW, do a search on Rolex thread--PLENTY of issues, but then again they make 1 million a year vs 35,000 like AP.

Manofsteelpt · 15 October 2016, 11:06 AM

My S63 had a flat tire a cpl weeks ago... Who do I blame and leave, Mercedes or Continental tire?

On second thought, it was prolly APs fault some how.

texex91 · 15 October 2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

My S63 had a flat tire a cpl weeks ago... Who do I blame and leave, Mercedes or Continental tire?

On second thought, it was prolly APs fault some how.

NO your MB dealer! Blame them

subtona · 15 October 2016, 11:37 AM

Very minor issue.
I have pulled the crown out on my Rolex once.

I wouldn't let that hold too much weight.

texex91 · 15 October 2016, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Very minor issue.
I have pulled the crown out on my Rolex once.

I wouldn't let that hold too much weight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GolfPunk

At the end of the day. I had the AP repaired under warranty and I've sold it for a £900 profit and I've bought a ceramic daytona. I am delighted!

He's looking for an excuse to justify his Daytona buy. AP obviously took great care of him and it's already repaired and sold.

So this happened a while ago, but he's bringing up now

masterserg · 15 October 2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

He's looking for an excuse to justify his Daytona buy. AP obviously took great care of him and it's already repaired and sold.

So this happened a while ago, but he's bringing up now

That's fine Paul. As I mentioned on the other thread he started (do you really need two?), AP is not for everybody... And all the better for it.

improviz · 15 October 2016, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

He's looking for an excuse to justify his Daytona buy. AP obviously took great care of him and it's already repaired and sold.

So this happened a while ago, but he's bringing up now

This.

Manofsteelpt · 15 October 2016, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

NO your MB dealer! Blame them

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

Very minor issue.
I have pulled the crown out on my Rolex once.

I wouldn't let that hold too much weight.

Hmmmmm... Maybe GUS is to blame!!!

PJ S · 15 October 2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Hmmmmm... Maybe GUS is to blame!!!

You may be on to something there, Mike – is Gus telepathetic?
Or did he astral projected himself to the UK during the night of his alleged interference with Gary’s ROO?

subtona · 16 October 2016, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Hmmmmm... Maybe GUS is to blame!!!

Wasn't me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ S

Definitely – crowns aren’t designed to hold any real weight, so no wonder your Rolex fell off it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ S

You may be on to something there, Mike – is Gus telepathetic?
Or did he astral projected himself to the UK during the night of his alleged interference with Gary’s ROO?

Haven't tried astral projection since 1992, in any event I would have likely only gone as far as Brooklyn to avoid traffic.

singe89 · 16 October 2016, 04:28 AM

Wait...so let me get this straight.

It was a 6 year old watch where we have no idea how it was treated prior to the OP buying it. Original owner could have pulled on the crown too hard for example.

AP fixes it under warranty, services the watch and gives you a 2 year warranty and you have "lost confidence in the brand"?

PJ S · 15 October 2016, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

Very minor issue.
I have pulled the crown out on my Rolex once.

I wouldn't let that hold too much weight.

Definitely – crowns aren’t designed to hold any real weight, so no wonder your Rolex fell off it!

Solicitor · 15 October 2016, 11:57 AM

I have a friend who had one of those old AP ROOs. He used it as a single watch everyday for nearly 20 years without any service except for the low power reserve and gaskets 'sticking out'.

I convinced him to send it for service and he spent around 2800 US dollars.

Barely a year after service, the watch went back to AP SC Singapore 3 times for various reasons..ie suddenly stopped, sticky date etc. Its worthy to note that turnaround time for each back job is minimum of 3 mos. Despite said anomalies, he hasn't lost confidence on the brand but sold the watch also with full disclosure to the new buyer. Now he is enjoying his AP RO Jumbo.

Sent from my SM-N9208 using Tapatalk

singe89 · 15 October 2016, 01:16 PM

This happened to one of my APs too...also happened to one of my Rolexes and one of my IWCs. It's just a small screw that retains the crown and if it comes loose the crown will come out. Rolex charged for a full service (was needed), local watch maker fixed the IWC for $50 and AP fixed it under warranty with a full service, 2 year extended warranty and a nice travel case. I've had many higher end watches over the last 15 years and had problems with every brand. Sh*t happens it's how the company deals with it and how quickly is really what matters to me.

DCheeta · 15 October 2016, 01:20 PM

I don't really get how that would be a black mark on AP's record. I've had things break and go wrong on watches of all brands, including Rolex.

It's part of mechanical watch ownership. Not everybody has the stomach for it.

That being said, a persons feelings are personal and cannot be argued. If you've lost confidence, you've lost confidence. Moving on seems a good choice for you. All of us here can agree that our passion for these timepieces is largely emotional, logic plays very little part in this.

15 October 2016, 07:54 AM	#1
GolfPunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Gary Location: UK Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 4,398	Loved my ROO...but it's gone as I've lost confidence!! I loved this watch but changing the date on the 1st, the crown/stem cane out. It's been repaired under warranty but I've lost confidence in the brand! Rolex for me from now?? __________________ ♕ Rolex Daytona White Gold 116509 (Ghost) ♕

15 October 2016, 07:57 AM	#2
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	It happens. APs are temperamental machines. As I always say, you should be aware before jumping in so you know what you are getting into and avoid disappointments. Usually, you won't have issues after it is fixed and AP's service is the best in the industry. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

15 October 2016, 09:18 AM	#9
GolfPunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Gary Location: UK Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 4,398	It's my own personal opinion. Pull out the crown of a Rolex and and AP... I guarantee the AP feels more flimsy. __________________ ♕ Rolex Daytona White Gold 116509 (Ghost) ♕

15 October 2016, 09:20 AM	#10
GolfPunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Gary Location: UK Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 4,398	At the end of the day. I had the AP repaired under warranty and I've sold it for a £900 profit and I've bought a ceramic daytona. I am delighted! __________________ ♕ Rolex Daytona White Gold 116509 (Ghost) ♕

15 October 2016, 11:37 AM	#19
subtona 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,744	Very minor issue. I have pulled the crown out on my Rolex once. I wouldn't let that hold too much weight. __________________

15 October 2016, 07:58 AM	#3
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,711	Probably. Nothing like that would ever happen to a Rolex.

15 October 2016, 08:01 AM	#7
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Enjoy the Daytona...we know those mass produced watches never break. These are watches. ALL brands can and will break. It's ok.

15 October 2016, 09:11 AM	#8
Gulfstream "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 101	Amazing... I fully understand why you wouldn't go back to AP in the near future.

15 October 2016, 09:21 AM	#11
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	I don't blame you for being turned off. There's no sense in trying to convince someone otherwise - I'd probably feel the same way as you, Gary!

15 October 2016, 09:29 AM	#13
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	They don't feel as solid as Rolex I admit, but they've caused me no trouble so far and I know APSC deal with problems quickly and politely.

15 October 2016, 09:39 AM	#16
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Well you're happy so enjoy that Rolex. Glad you found a brand that fits you and you like. BTW, do a search on Rolex thread--PLENTY of issues, but then again they make 1 million a year vs 35,000 like AP.

15 October 2016, 11:06 AM	#17
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	My S63 had a flat tire a cpl weeks ago... Who do I blame and leave, Mercedes or Continental tire? On second thought, it was prolly APs fault some how.

16 October 2016, 04:28 AM	#26
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,753	Wait...so let me get this straight. It was a 6 year old watch where we have no idea how it was treated prior to the OP buying it. Original owner could have pulled on the crown too hard for example. AP fixes it under warranty, services the watch and gives you a 2 year warranty and you have "lost confidence in the brand"?

15 October 2016, 11:57 AM	#28
Solicitor "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 317	I have a friend who had one of those old AP ROOs. He used it as a single watch everyday for nearly 20 years without any service except for the low power reserve and gaskets 'sticking out'. I convinced him to send it for service and he spent around 2800 US dollars. Barely a year after service, the watch went back to AP SC Singapore 3 times for various reasons..ie suddenly stopped, sticky date etc. Its worthy to note that turnaround time for each back job is minimum of 3 mos. Despite said anomalies, he hasn't lost confidence on the brand but sold the watch also with full disclosure to the new buyer. Now he is enjoying his AP RO Jumbo. Sent from my SM-N9208 using Tapatalk

15 October 2016, 01:16 PM	#29
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,753	This happened to one of my APs too...also happened to one of my Rolexes and one of my IWCs. It's just a small screw that retains the crown and if it comes loose the crown will come out. Rolex charged for a full service (was needed), local watch maker fixed the IWC for $50 and AP fixed it under warranty with a full service, 2 year extended warranty and a nice travel case. I've had many higher end watches over the last 15 years and had problems with every brand. Sh*t happens it's how the company deals with it and how quickly is really what matters to me.

15 October 2016, 01:20 PM	#30
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,184	I don't really get how that would be a black mark on AP's record. I've had things break and go wrong on watches of all brands, including Rolex. It's part of mechanical watch ownership. Not everybody has the stomach for it. That being said, a persons feelings are personal and cannot be argued. If you've lost confidence, you've lost confidence. Moving on seems a good choice for you. All of us here can agree that our passion for these timepieces is largely emotional, logic plays very little part in this.

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