The late millennial gap

[drgoro]

I work with the public on a daily basis, I'm mid 30's, today I saw something that caught my attention. It was a 20'something year old guy well dressed; he didn't know how to fill out an envelope with his address and addressee info, like no clue. The USPS guy literally wrote on the envelope 'To' & 'From' for him and he still had questions. Are they that out of touch? I'm just a but older, bit I feel these are things that anyone functioning in society should know. I LOL'ed to myself.

One of my buddies (in his 50's) in the middle of a restoration of a antique truck, dropped the term 'three eon the tree', I had no friggin idea what he was talk gin about, Makes me wonder what the real old guys think about my generation!

[andromeda160]

Being a 22yr old, I still find you ignorant of not knowing what 3 on the tree stands for. Do you know how to drive a stick? This "milllenial" blasting sh*+ is f*$^%ing obnoxious.

Yes we're all incompetent fricken morons with no desire for self growth. Most of us can't function in society, and are uneducated. We lack class, style and drive. We're the reason this country is going to fail. All hail your perfect generation, atleast you can mail a letter.


Lets put this in perspective, a person born in 1998 is now 18, by 2003 when that child could first start writing, snail mail was already on it's way out. By the time that same child was 13 in 2011, chances are they had a cell phone, email, and all sorts of other electronic communication devices. Now they're 18, chances are never sent letters in their life and have primarily socialized through text and media outlets and never had to send a letter. You should be amazed at how much technology has advanced in our lifetime, not laugh at someone for never having to use an antiquated system. I'm amazed anyone even stops at the post office anymore when you can schedule package pickups and print shipping labels off from your home.


Compare it to laughing at an elder for not knowing how to use a computer or cell phone. It's just that times have changed.

[drgoro]

Settle down. No bashing here. I made a real life observation. Sorry if you feel as a generation you're being bashed. And Yes I have driven sticks my whole life, everything from a Sti, evo, M4 all the way up to a 911 turbo s (the 3 on a tree thing is me musing how, I myself may be viewed by the generation preceding me. ) No harm intended.


I most be antiquated as well, I use USPS frequently.

Originally Posted by andromeda160

Being a 22yr old, I still find you ignorant of not knowing what 3 on the tree stands for. Do you know how to drive a stick? This "milllenial" blasting sh*+ is f*$^%ing obnoxious.

Yes we're all incompetent fricken morons with no desire for self growth. Most of us can't function in society, and are uneducated. We lack class, style and drive. We're the reason this country is going to fail. All hail your perfect generation, atleast you can mail a letter.


Lets put this in perspective, a person born in 1998 is now 18, by 2003 when that child could first start writing, snail mail was already on it's way out. By the time that same child was 13 in 2011, chances are they had a cell phone, email, and all sorts of other electronic communication devices. Now they're 18, chances are never sent letters in their life and have primarily socialized through text and media outlets and never had to send a letter. You should be amazed at how much technology has advanced in our lifetime, not laugh at someone for never having to use an antiquated system. I'm amazed anyone even stops at the post office anymore when you can schedule package pickups and print shipping labels off from your home.


Compare it to laughing at an elder for not knowing how to use a computer or cell phone. It's just that times have changed.

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by drgoro

Settle down. No bashing here. I made a real life observation. Sorry if you feel as a generation you're being bashed. And Yes I have driven sticks my whole life, everything from a Sti, evo, M4 all the way up to a 911 turbo s (the 3 on a tree thing is me musing how, I myself may be viewed by the generation preceding me. ) No harm intended.


I most be antiquated as well, I use USPS frequently.

There's a new millenial observation thread here every week. Cool, you met one well dressed young person who needed help filling out an envelope. You adressed it as a millenial problem. (I ship 50-200 items a month myself)I dislike a vast majority of people in my age group, there are plenty of problems with my generation, but this brief moment didn't deserve a thread intended on humuliating a person and targeting a generation. I am calm, I'm not upset at all. but I don't need to divulge myself any further as you don't seem to think you've made any blanketed statements.


...But if you've had all those cars in a manual, not knowing what a 3 on the tree is, is inexcusible

[cop414]

I learned to drive in an old Plymouth Valiant with three on the column and yes, I am smack in the middle of my 50's. I like to think that I have one foot in the old school and one foot in the new school. Sometimes hard to keep up with you whipper snappers though.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by cop414

I learned to drive in an old Plymouth Valiant with three on the column and yes, I am smack in the middle of my 50's. I like to think that I have one foot in the old school and one foot in the new school. Sometimes hard to keep up with you whipper snappers though.

Column shifters are pretty old. My '64 F100 had one (it pinned my leg down in 3rd gear so I moved it to a floor shifter). There are probably a lot of guys in their 50's that wouldn't recognize "three on a tree".

I work with a few millennials. They can do all the manual stuff that all the old farts do. It is funny that the guy at the post office couldn't post a letter. But, I'd blame his elementary school for that, not his generation.

Let's be honest Greg, if you were stuck in a long line at the post office behind this guy while the clerk taught him how to address an envelope, you would be questioning his education as well.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by andromeda160

Being a 22yr old, I still find you ignorant of not knowing what 3 on the tree stands for. Do you know how to drive a stick? This "milllenial" blasting sh*+ is f*$^%ing obnoxious.

Yes we're all incompetent fricken morons with no desire for self growth. Most of us can't function in society, and are uneducated. We lack class, style and drive. We're the reason this country is going to fail. All hail your perfect generation, atleast you can mail a letter.


Lets put this in perspective, a person born in 1998 is now 18, by 2003 when that child could first start writing, snail mail was already on it's way out. By the time that same child was 13 in 2011, chances are they had a cell phone, email, and all sorts of other electronic communication devices. Now they're 18, chances are never sent letters in their life and have primarily socialized through text and media outlets and never had to send a letter. You should be amazed at how much technology has advanced in our lifetime, not laugh at someone for never having to use an antiquated system. I'm amazed anyone even stops at the post office anymore when you can schedule package pickups and print shipping labels off from your home.


Compare it to laughing at an elder for not knowing how to use a computer or cell phone. It's just that times have changed.

Whoah. I'd not take it so personally.

Oh boy. He was just making a general observation.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by andromeda160

Compare it to laughing at an elder for not knowing how to use a computer or cell phone.

Whom do you think invented computers and cell phones?

It wasn't millennials, but I acknowledge your point.

I learned to drive on a "three on a tree" and I drive a six-speed manual now.

I hate automatic transmissions and especially CVTs.

[RW16610]

Haha I guess most use email now and social medial. I'm 30 but had an eBay store back in the day (oh so long ago lol). Back then online resources were extremely limited in comparison to the present yet there was no such struggle.

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[austinp]

I had a '69 Ford Bronco with 3 on the tree. Great truck. Wish I still had it.

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[drgoro]

I never drove one, I may go out of my way to find one and give it a go!

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by drgoro

I never drove one, I may go out of my way to find one and give it a go!

It's a three speed. There's a reason cars all have four or more speeds now. You aren't missing much.

[RKTudor]

Originally Posted by drgoro

I never drove one, I may go out of my way to find one and give it a go!

My thought as well.

[Star Ferry]

As one of the younger regular posters on TRF (but still about 3 years older than Greg ) ... I think generational conflict is lame

If someone feels superior to me because they lived to a certain age, then I see that as a poor reflection on that individual. Sadly, someone who bases their self-esteem on age probably doesn't have much else going for them.

The post office anecdote seems odd, but I'm not sure why that guy should be considered representative of everyone his age. When I have children and grand children, I'm going to share interesting stories and lessons with them. What will I not do? I won't quiz them on old technology from 2016, and I won't tell them about how awful their generation is compared to mine

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

As one of the younger regular posters on TRF (but still about 3 years older than Greg ) ... I think generational conflict is lame

If someone feels superior to me because they lived to a certain age, then I see that as a poor reflection on that individual. Sadly, someone who bases their self-esteem on age probably doesn't have much else going for them.

The post office anecdote seems odd, but I'm not sure why that guy should be considered representative of everyone his age. When I have children and grand children, I'm going to share interesting stories and lessons with them. What will I not do? I won't quiz them on old technology from 2016, and I won't tell them about how awful their generation is compared to mine

Yeah you will

[SearChart]

There are a lot of morons in our age group (also 22), but I guess it's not just my age group and you will find these people all throughout your life.

[KarlS]

I reserve judgement until after the finals on "Survivor"!

[MonBK]

I asked Henry if he could make me a white car, he said no.

[zama]

I know I am old, because I would rather technology did not keep coming out, and while I don't got to banks or post office often, I am happy to live with a 6 speed manual car and don't really care if I have anything more than a radio..... Happy living with a TV and cable at home I don't need to stream video's etc..... No want for an apple phone etc......

[TheBluePrince]

I strongly believe that the generation born in the mid 70's to mid 80's are the best equipped for the modern world. We were around before the internet and learnt how to do things manually in the analogue world but were also still young enough in the late 90's until now to easily grasp all the new tech that has quickly taken hold.

I do feel for people older or younger that did not fall into this demographic and so have a knowledge gap at either end of the spectrum.

The thing with Millennial's is though that often if they don't know something and it can't quickly be found out from a device on hand then they are completely lost. So many don't seem to have the spark to acquire knowledge or skills needed to succeed out of their comfort zone.

It's not as bad in older generations yet but the malaise IS spreading imo. Think about it, we now should all be the most intelligent, knowledgeable and brilliantly minded people who've ever lived, we have access to any knowledge or information we ever need, instantly at our fingertips. We're not though are we, we're generally as a species getting lazier, access to all this information seems to have dulled our brains; the fact that we can see it anytime means people don't remember or learn it and this is one of the main problems - too much available knowledge is making us stupid

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

I strongly believe that the generation born in the mid 70's to mid 80's are the best equipped for the modern world. We were around before the internet and learnt how to do things manually in the analogue world but were also still young enough in the late 90's until now to easily grasp all the new tech that has quickly taken hold.

I do feel for people older or younger that did not fall into this demographic and so have a knowledge gap at either end of the spectrum.

The thing with Millennial's is though that often if they don't know something and it can't quickly be found out from a device on hand then they are completely lost. So many don't seem to have the spark to acquire knowledge or skills needed to succeed out of their comfort zone.

It's not as bad in older generations yet but the malaise IS spreading imo. Think about it, we now should all be the most intelligent, knowledgeable and brilliantly minded people who've ever lived, we have access to any knowledge or information we ever need, instantly at our fingertips. We're not though are we, we're generally as a species getting lazier, access to all this information seems to have dulled our brains; the fact that we can see it anytime means people don't remember or learn it and this is one of the main problems - too much available knowledge is making us stupid

I think you've lost the track - you're quite mad.

Those 80-90 year old dolts figured out how to design supersonic jets and harness the power of the atom.

The next bunch landed on the moon and invented the transistor.

Our group advanced transistor manufacturing to micronize computing systems.

The millennials will have their own claim to fame in due time.

Really, how can you claim that one generation is better than the rest.

[TheBluePrince]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I think you've lost the track - you're quite mad.

Those 80-90 year old dolts figured out how to design supersonic jets and harness the power of the atom.

The next bunch landed on the moon and invented the transistor.

Our group advanced transistor manufacturing to micronize computing systems.

The millennials will have their own claim to fame in due time.

Really, how can you claim that one generation is better than the rest.

That's not what I meant at all, you've completely misunderstood my post and taken it the wrong way

The older generation do find it harder to pickup new tech. The younger generation do find it harder to do things manually and use their brain without electronic help. There are of course exceptions but in general this is what I see/experience working for multiple MNC's around the world.

People born from mid 70s - mid 80's are the one's who seem to bridge both of these generations/gaps the best, again this is what I see and experience.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

That's not what I meant at all, you've completely misunderstood my post and taken it the wrong way

The older generation do find it harder to pickup new tech. The younger generation do find it harder to do things manually and use their brain without electronic help. There are of course exceptions but in general this is what I see/experience working for multiple MNC's around the world.

People born from mid 70s - mid 80's are the one's who seem to bridge both of these generations/gaps the best, again this is what I see and experience.

You must not associate with many people. I find that most people adapt to their environment, regardless of generation. The older people invented all the new tech that you learned when you were younger, and are just as likely to be on their smart phone as you are. And the younger people are no less adept at manual tasks than anyone else who spends a lot of their time using devices.

I think you perceive people in your generation differently, and apply greater capability than they actually rate.

[Old Expat Beast]

I'm glad I was a kid in the 1960s and a teen in the 1970s. Those were free and easy decades to be young.

[cop414]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I'm glad I was a kid in the 1960s and a teen in the 1970s. Those were free and easy decades to be young.

X2

[Limestonedan]

Originally Posted by old expat beast

i'm glad i was a kid in the 1960s and a teen in the 1970s. Those were free and easy decades to be young.

x3!

[airchitect]

Every generation has its issues. Period. And arguing about them is idiotic. We all have things we see about each one that makes us cringe. One of mine is that millennials as a group (not everyone) were excessively coddled and praised as they were raised (participation trophy anyone?). This has lead to a noticeable "I deserve it" attitude amongst many. The most noticeable place this seems to rear its head is in the workplace. Inexperienced kids straight out of school (again not everyone) come in the door expecting to work on the biggest project, have a great title, and start at 80k. Never gonna happen. The irony in this is that its their parents gen who are having to do the hiring and deal with the bs they instilled in them ("Go ahead Timmy. Your idea, though not distilled and irrelevant to the problem should be heard by all"). On the flip side many gen X'ers are jaded as hell, and geezers are cheap, boring, and don't know how to live...... . Really though, all I really have to say to the youngest folks on here (this goes for my gen too) is pull the headphones out for a few. You save yourself from tinnitus and might meet some cool people.

[rr-nyc]

Originally Posted by airchitect

Every generation has its issues. Period. And arguing about them is idiotic. We all have things we see about each one that makes us cringe. One of mine is that millennials as a group (not everyone) were excessively coddled and praised as they were raised (participation trophy anyone?). This has lead to a noticeable "I deserve it" attitude amongst many. The most noticeable place this seems to rear its head is in the workplace. Inexperienced kids straight out of school (again not everyone) come in the door expecting to work on the biggest project, have a great title, and start at 80k. Never gonna happen. The irony in this is that its their parents gen who are having to do the hiring and deal with the bs they instilled in them ("Go ahead Timmy. Your idea, though not distilled and irrelevant to the problem should be heard by all"). On the flip side many gen X'ers are jaded as hell, and geezers are cheap, boring, and don't know how to live...... . Really though, all I really have to say to the youngest folks on here (this goes for my gen too) is pull the headphones out for a few. You save yourself from tinnitus and might meet some cool people.

Yep

[superdog]

Holy cow.

I just read this thread.

Umm, wtf...

In our society we can no longer talk about anything, make judgements in any way, without someone getting all sorts of insulted.

We are a society of "Nancy pants". Uh oh..was that sexist?