Rolex 116519 daytona red vs silver hands

[youngfromNY]

So i recently purhased a Rolex Daytona 116519 (black alligator strap, 18k white gold)

i noticed that when i look up the model and pictures - the dials and stopwatch hand are silver

mine has red hands in the small dials and stopwatch "big hand"

does rolex make this model with red hands or should i be concerned with what i bought from my jeweler who got it from an AD???

[youngfromNY]

i have the black dial with lume hands

[Amex4711]

Pics please

[youngfromNY]

pic here

[Marcus09]

Niiice! Congrats for an excellent purchase! I have the 520 white dial and love it !


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[youngfromNY]

another pic here

all the pics ive seen online has this dial with silver hands

[youngfromNY]

maybe im being paranoid but just wondering if i should bring it in to rolex or make a stink about it to my jeweler.

[rollee1]

The red hands are paired with the 116509 non lume Arabic dial.
On the 116519 leather strap white gold variation, set of hands are silver.

Assuming the black dial was not swapped out from the ss model, the red hands are out of place.
The racing bezel corresponds to the WG 116509/116519 Daytonas is correct.

[youngfromNY]

Originally Posted by rollee1

The red hands are paired with the 116509 non lume Arabic dial.
On the 116519 leather strap white gold variation, set of hands are silver.

Assuming the black dial was not swapped out from the ss model, the red hands are out of place.
The racing bezel corresponds to the WG 116509/116519 Daytonas is correct.

THANK YOU for the clarification. Will take it in to Rolex to see what they can do, or speak to my jeweler.

[Sherpa23]

Originally Posted by rollee1

The racing bezel corresponds to the WG 116509/116519 Daytonas is correct.

Sorry for my ignorance here but what is the racing bezel? Is it because it has the triangles instead of dots?

I have a white gold Daytona on strap but it's a 16519 with the zenith movement so I'm not always sure of the subtle changes with each model evolution. Thanks.

To the OP, I really like the red hands, fwiw, and I don't know if I would change it (depending on how much you paid, I suppose). It is a great watch.

[youngfromNY]

Originally Posted by Sherpa23

Sorry for my ignorance here but what is the racing bezel? Is it because it has the triangles instead of dots?

I have a white gold Daytona on strap but it's a 16519 with the zenith movement so I'm not always sure of the subtle changes with each model evolution. Thanks.

To the OP, I really like the red hands, fwiw, and I don't know if I would change it (depending on how much you paid, I suppose). It is a great watch.

lol yeah i would like to know what the racing bezel is too

tbh, i like the red hands but now taking it into rolex to seemifnthey validate that all parts are authentic.

[Rick_Nashville]

It's not exclusive to 'racing bezels' per se, but on most 'PM' Daytona bezels (and also on the newer ceramic bezels), in addition to the triangles, the unit numbers are positioned differently than on the SS bezels. I.E., they're not all 'upright' on the PM bezels.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by rollee1

The red hands are paired with the 116509 non lume Arabic dial.
On the 116519 leather strap white gold variation, set of hands are silver.

Assuming the black dial was not swapped out from the ss model, the red hands are out of place.
The racing bezel corresponds to the WG 116509/116519 Daytonas is correct.

Yes I would check the dial out too as this is the SS dial and most prefer the WG models with the exclusive to WG dials only, so may have been swapped in with the hands.

[rollee1]

Thanks Rick, you explained the racing bezel better than I.
The regular bezel exist on SS 116520 and TT 116513 models, has now been replaced by the new 116500 and 116503, as of last year.

The racing bezel sets the WG 116509 / 116519 apart from the SS 116520 models, and on all PM Daytonas 116515, 116506, 116508 / 116518.

Each to their own, I like the simplicity of the regular bezel as well.

[youngfromNY]

So i went in to Rolex. (might've gotten the AD in trouble as I bought this from my jeweler who got it from the AD..oops! =T )

Rolex agree this is not the original configuration and are further looking into it.

the 150$ service charge is well worth the peace of mind.

Thanks everyone for the awesome replies and responses.

[PinotNoir]

maybe you can keep the red hands for future customized(if it's original Rolex part).

[Sherpa23]

Originally Posted by PinotNoir

maybe you can keep the red hands for future customized(if it's original Rolex part).

Personally speaking, if you could keep the red hands and get the Arabic dial, that would be the hands down winner to me.

[youngfromNY]

Originally Posted by Sherpa23

Personally speaking, if you could keep the red hands and get the Arabic dial, that would be the hands down winner to me.

Hey Sherpa, thanks for the response. TBH , i'm not a fan of the huge Arabic numbers. I prefer the lume sticks or maybe upgrade and get the diamond black dial??

[Rick_Nashville]

Originally Posted by youngfromNY

Hey Sherpa, thanks for the response. TBH , i'm not a fan of the huge Arabic numbers. I prefer the lume sticks or maybe upgrade and get the diamond black dial??

Hi NY, don't give up on the racing dial Daytona yet, lol. On the first generation of racing dial Daytona models (not sure how many dial variations were produced, but I've pictured the charcoal-matte one above), the arabic numerals are smaller than on the 2nd gen model (the one with the slightly lighter 'slate grey' dial).

Also regarding the red chrono seconds hand on your watch, it's entirely possible that your watch is 100% legit and that a previous owner simply swapped out the factory fitted white-gold hand for a red one. I know someone who did exactly this on a slate grey racing Daytona, and imho it really improved the sportiness of the watch.

[youngfromNY]

so after a month of the watch being at Rolex RSC in NY, them verifying the dial with Geneva, and what not.

I received word that the dial (seen in the pics above) is not a dial that Rolex ever made on a WG 116519

That being said, I asked to return it to the original configuration and guess what was the original dial......


THE PANDAAAAAAA

so RSC will service and change the dial + hands back to the original config. and the AD said he will pay for it.

All in all, things have worked out. Will post up pics once i receive. Thanks everyone for input!

[watchwatcher]

Originally Posted by youngfromNY

so after a month of the watch being at Rolex RSC in NY, them verifying the dial with Geneva, and what not.

I received word that the dial (seen in the pics above) is not a dial that Rolex ever made on a WG 116519

That being said, I asked to return it to the original configuration and guess what was the original dial......


THE PANDAAAAAAA

so RSC will service and change the dial + hands back to the original config. and the AD said he will pay for it.

All in all, things have worked out. Will post up pics once i receive. Thanks everyone for input!

Nice...can't wait for the pics.

[904VT]

Congrats! IMO Panda Daytona dials reign supreme

[youngfromNY]

Originally Posted by 904VT

Congrats! IMO Panda Daytona dials reign supreme

i agree!

[Sherpa23]

That's a great outcome.

[DanielK]

Yes, glad you got it sorted.

[rollee1]

That's wonderful, I like pandas the best on daytonas, glad that things are sorted.
Can't wait to see some pics, perhaps buy a Rubber B strap for the summer.

Do you get to keep the dial and red handset?

[RichM]

Can't wait to see it. I also would like to see the expression on the AD's face when they get the bill.

[youngfromNY]

Originally Posted by Rich Mickol

Can't wait to see it. I also would like to see the expression on the AD's face when they get the bill.

probably a better face than mine when rolex said it wasnt the original dial and where i got it from + 100 questions like i committed a crime

although this makes me question the AD ...like what AD doesnt know that the red hands dont come with that dial. safe to say, will never do business with him again

[DanielK]

Originally Posted by youngfromNY

although this makes me question the AD ...like what AD doesnt know that the red hands dont come with that dial. safe to say, will never do business with him again

Are you sure it was an AD and not just a random dealer? As far as I know, Authorised Dealers aren't allow to sell you something that is not in 100% original form, even if it's second hand. If you're sure it's an AD (check the Rolex site) you might want to give the details to RSC so they can do something about it...

[youngfromNY]

Originally Posted by DanielK

Are you sure it was an AD and not just a random dealer? As far as I know, Authorised Dealers aren't allow to sell you something that is not in 100% original form, even if it's second hand. If you're sure it's an AD (check the Rolex site) you might want to give the details to RSC so they can do something about it...

it could've been. I got the watch as a wedding gift so perhaps there was another "set of hands" (pun intended) that touched this from the AD and me.

It struck me as odd that an AD did not know what color hands come with a dial on a watch....